If you exclude welfare payments, have Port ever made a profit?

I feel for morrell though, we'll all chip in so that you can get some new teeth, but sorry that we can't help you find out who your Dad is.

Some stereotypes to keep us living in the past. How clever.
You know you've won the argument when ;)

When you start calling people “defunct boomer dinosaurs”, “pissed old farts”, “space cadets”, “muppets”.
I called you out ages ago for trotting in here on your high horse, frighteningly deluded. Nothing’s changed, you’re a boring hypocrite throwing out the same lame, tired punchlines. Give it a rest Hughesy…
Yeah but they're all true.

Port weren't rebuilding, they were adding depth to their list.
Crows were/are rebuilding as they lack the same depth as Port.

Boon, do you think some of those decisions (along with not having a top 40 pick in this years draft) were rushed due to Ken running out of time? Would have a new coaching group made the same decisions?
Maybe part of the issue is the members and their expectations? If they hadn't chased those players and instead invested in the draft, to the detriment of on field results, and not been as competitive - how would the members have viewed it?

They all seem to be expecting flags every season .. as soon as Port falters they get nasty.

This, with respect, is utter bollocks. Cornes on the Sunday Footy Show noted Port fans still think it's the SANFL and we'll win flags every other year, that's 30 f*cking years ago and not one Port fan I know thinks that way. It's bullshit.

What we expect is the club to do everything it can every year to strive for that , under this current regime and coach we have had plenty of goes at it ( see my list management post above ), there's now only one thing left to do and that should have been done 4 years ago, give someone else a go.

Pies have been reamed if that is the final deal imo

Richards for 58 fair enough
Houston for next years first heavily academy rorted draft good deal but add Noble who they wanted a good pick for and pick 36 in a good draft then its overs

Trump appears to be slightly favoured in Georgia and NC at the moment. The optimistic case for Harris is that Wisconsin, Michigan and Pennsylvania are genuinely in doubt. Still, if I had to choose, I'd rather be in Trump's position ATM.

Just saw this.... I'm a big fan of Thursday Night Footy, maybe not now if I have to watch Essendon the most now

Essendon will play the most with four , while Carlton, Hawthorn, Geelong, Western Bulldogs and Brisbane Lions will each play three Thursday night games in the first 16 weeks.

Excellent, I can get my disappointment sorted before the weekend even starts.

Great timing by Labor to yesterday call for Afghanistan to be banned by the ICC.
Will CA take the high moral ground or do they only do that when it’s not a major comp?

bertiebeatle1 wrote:

TDK needs to ruck. Top 10 player in the comp IMO - will likely be the highest paid player in the comp at end of this year

Who will post our cricket stats then or add the links from ESPN?

bertiebeatle1 wrote:.

Deleted that quick


These stats are great but you are not factoring in the sides playing

The SANFL has had to ride some serious bumps over the last 40 years or so, but feel that the comp is now at the crossroads more than ever before.

I don't think there will be an SANFL league competition in 2030. There will be more investment and focus on the junior programs and the U18 competition will be the pinnacle for SANFL clubs. SA's version of the Coates Talent League.
That's a very pessimistic point of view, but kind of understandable.
What do you think would be the trigger for this?

It's often been claimed that a fully fledged AFL reserves comp would turn the SANFL (and WAFL) into "3rd tier" comps.
Yes, it probably would drain more players away, but would it end those leagues?
I doubt it.

The 150th year of the SANFL is coming up in 2027, I'm pretty sure it will get that far at least.

I think the trigger will be when the Power/Crows contract ends with the SANFL in 2028 and there will be an AFL Reserves competition. The VFL is a mess with too many teams. Port, Crows and West Coast were/are advocating for it as recently as last year. St Kilda announcing their separating from Sandringham the other day leaves only Melbourne, Hawthorn and Freo with affiliations. Casey are already Demons branded and Box Hill likewise for the Hawks.

The way the SANFL junior system is set up, with established country and metropolitan zones, and a clear pathway through to the AFL Draft along with SANFL club control/ownership of the SANFL, is a double edged sword for the men's league. It is already the perfect set up. There is a responsibility to fund as much as possible those junior programs. At what point is the junior part of the club a higher priority than the men's league part of the club? The reward of being drafted into the AFL system is becoming greater, whilst the reward and recognition of being an SANFL league footballer is diminishing.

I can see the SANFL clubs attracting AFL funding for their junior programs, which facilitate for every young footballer in SA and this becoming a priority over a men's league which has become merely a feeder to an AFL Reserves competition - therefore two steps away from the dream of AFL. A step too far. And not enough recognition or financial reward to keep from community level clubs.

So, I think the writing is already on the wall. There is AFL and community level football and no room for in between. If it is to be that way, then this is what I would do to make sure we can watch our clubs battle it out against each other on a Saturday afternoon well into the future.

1) Restructure ownership and control of the SANFL, making a deal with the current SANFL clubs to relinquish control.

2) Replace the SANFL U18 & U16 competition with an elite 4-6 team underage program that caters for the entire state and feeds the State junior squads and AFL draft.

3) SANFL clubs fall back to community level.



4) Restructuring of community football as follows:



SANFL League - (10 Teams, promotion/relegation, inclusive of 8 current SANFL clubs initially)

SANFL Division 2 - (10 Teams, promotion/relegation, fed mainly by Adelaide Footy League, but capability for country clubs to earn their way in)

Adelaide Footy League becomes larger and takes in greater Adelaide.

 Therefore the TS Hill Premiership Trophy becomes the pinnacle for community football clubs in South Australia. Each club can get to a level that is sustainable for them at the time. The support may be smaller, but the competition is meaningful, relevant, fair and sustainable.

 Those with AFL ambitions do so through newly formed junior clubs feeding the State junior squads and the second tier AFL Reserves, but with an affiliation with their community club, not necessarily a current SANFL club.

It's a fine line, I reckon. Clubs only have assistants from other teams and supporters etc. will whine the club has lost it's identity.

Too many former players as assistants and supporters claim it's a old boy's club. Can't win.

Players at all clubs have injuries that they can get through games with but limit their training ( Wines is doing so at the moment ), if Rioli is fit to play then he's been dropped on form and rightly so. If he's not fit to play then rest him until he is.