South Adelaide had only 7 players poll votes this year, but tallied 66 votes. This is a record for votes per player for votes awarded from 1945 onwards:



In gold is where the winner came from in that year.

2001 Anthony Brown Port 19
2001 Ryan O'Connor Port 19
2001 Jared Poulton Port 8
2001 Alf Steed Port 5
2001 Trent Ormond-Allen Port 5
2001 Anthony Bamford Port 4
2001 Nathan McDowall Port 3
2001 Nigel Fiegert Port 3
2001 Tom Carr Port 3
2001 Brayden Lyle Port 2
2001 Bryan Beinke Port 2
2001 Eugene Warrior Port 1
2001 Julian Wait Port 1
2001 Mark Clayton Port 1
2001 Stephen Carter Port 1

77/15 = 5.13

The 78 scored was the highest 10th wicket partnership to win a Test match

Booney wrote:@spell_check where does this rank on the highest scoring seasons in the SANFL?

By points 10th; by scoring shots 12th

The sun seems to cause that same problem every match he plays in, even when looking down.

Here's another video I requested Rob Moody to upload, SK Warne at his finest:

I hope this is correct:

Calling mal to this thread!

Some one was sent off in 2001.

Balme was sent off in 1995.

Was it Adam Richardson from West in a knock-out final against Norwood? Seem to remember a game around then that just got unnecessarily out of control.

Sam Jones, early in the last quarter of EF 2001, he got reported twice in five minutes (I think)

Not sure if I’m thinking of the same game, but there was a knockout final between the two clubs which Norwood had safely in their keeping and inexplicably Dale Fleming belted Richo with about 5-10 minutes to play and duly copped a suspension and his finals series was over. Was one of the weirder acts of ill-discipline I can recall from my mob.

Later in that quarter, southern end...I remember Richardson flinging Fleming into the fence, assuming as a result of that ill-discipline.

Brett Mancini was sent off in a match, as well.

it's been an even season so far; 7 matches out of the 12 have been decided by less than ten points, a record for the SANFL after Round 3 in both number and % of matches. I'd say no-one is a certainty to miss the four at this stage, especially Norwood. Even after todays (non) effort.

Was there selection criterias ?
I ask, because one very good player is not selected
Bruce Lindsay
At a guess you'd have to play more than 6 games and I'd hazard a guess he wasn't BOG in most of those. :lol:

Sadly Bruce's best days were behind him when WWT was formed. Despite playing finals in 1991/92 I don't think Lindsay played in any of these matches which was a shame because he was such a great servant of West Torrens but perhaps only played in one final in the early 80s.
He played in both 1991 finals matches.

JK, Adam Pearce won the 1999 Football Budget award, despite not polling a single Magarey vote. The next year, Colville won the award, which was now named the R.O. Shearman Medal, by 11 votes under the 3-2-1 system. But of course, as it always decreed for the club, no Magarey Medal.

saintal wrote:Score in the ressies was Sturt 13.20 to Norwood 1.3

33 scoring shots to 4

Norwood have only kicked 1 score lower than that in the Reserves, 0.7 vs Glenelg 9.16, Rd 10 1968

Where's spelly when you need him? Mercifully, he's right here!

While we've got you spelly, speaking of reserves records:
1. Has any team ever picked up the wooden spoon in the league, while winning the reserves flag? Now unlikely, but Centrals are going close. Their reserves team is all-conquering—it can only work at league level if West somehow snatch a win (Norwood being their best target) at the tail end of the year. That's one very even squad that Centrals have got.
2. Norwood now looking very likely to go from 2019 reserves premiers, to 2020 reserves wooden spooners. Happened before?

Thanks!

1) 1912 - North, 1941 - Torrens, 1949 - Sturt
2) 1989/90 - Central, 2018/19 - North

Where's spelly when you need him? Mercifully, he's right here!

While we've got you spelly, speaking of reserves records:
1. Has any team ever picked up the wooden spoon in the league, while winning the reserves flag? Now unlikely, but Centrals are going close. Their reserves team is all-conquering—it can only work at league level if West somehow snatch a win (Norwood being their best target) at the tail end of the year. That's one very even squad that Centrals have got.
2. Norwood now looking very likely to go from 2019 reserves premiers, to 2020 reserves wooden spooners. Happened before?

Thanks!

1) 1912 - North, 1941 - Torrens, 1949 - Sturt
2) 1989/90 - Central, 2018/19 - North Legend as always spelly. So there was a SANFL reserves comp going back to at least 1912? That's impressive.

The bold entry will learn me for not paying attention in 2018/19. So what you're saying, now it's probably gunna happen twice in a row, is that I wanna find a bookie who will give me handsome odds that the 2020 SANFL reserves premier, will finish bottom in 2021. That's an obscure market, but potentially a very lucrative one.
I have Reserve records (or B grade as it was known then) going back to 1911, because this was when it was solely comprised of the 7 clubs. There was a competition back before that, but results are also harder to come by. I only have 4 matches missing from 1911.

I didn't realise this potential double either, and even though I was there myself last year to see Norwood win (and us to claim another 2nd out of something), I didn't make the connection that Norwood will in all likelihood go from first to last until the weekend.

Yes I did see that kick. This bloke who you refer to as an "arse clown" has played at the highest level. I also suspect he can recognise his limitations, one of which is set shots from relatively close range. He made a decision, he gambled, and on this occasion he lost.
I am sorry he missed. I am sorry we lost. But I won't blame one player or one mistake.
Show the bloke a bit of respect even if he doesn't match you SFL C Grade immaculate decision making.

The problem I think is that Glenelg won, or it keeps a North/Glenelg GF alive, which would be wasted on a 25k crowd, rather than 40k plus.

On Butcher, he competes well, and takes a solid contested mark; top shelf for SANFL...but fmd, that goal kicking should have been sorted out at the Power i.e. eons ago. What did they waste their time on training at PAFC HQ then?

Good effort by the Dogs - unlike last night, a side who wanted the win for a decent send-off for two of their stars, and got it.

History on two counts, the first time a side has defeated the Eagles with a set shot after the siren (it went just after Arnott kicked the ball in 2002 @ Woodville).

The second is that we have a tie for the Ken Farmer for the first time. Haydon wore Rowe like a glove, and McBean got a couple of last qtr goals to level.

A loss after the siren is disappointing. I'd rather that, however, than won by 14 points but had Tsitas being carried off with a knee injury in the 1st, Redden play most of the game with a broken bone and Sinor also sidelined for the finals.

That's tough, I could try and find coaches who weren't there the following year and you can refresh/recall if they were/weren't shown the door.

Brenton Honor won his last game as Glenelg coach in 2002, but that was to 8th placed South.

Similarly, David Noble won Rd 23 2004, but was to last placed Norwood.

Stephen Williams as Port coach in 2003 won the last four matches (the second to last was to league leaders Central), but left on his own accord.

True but history shows that Glenelg have never beaten South in October,

The teams have met in 2 Elimination Finals at least
1992
GL 24-10 [154]
SA 15-13 [103]

2011
SA 14-17 [101]
GL 10-10 [70]

SA have never scored less than a total of 100 points in all EFs against GL

There might be more finals played between the teams ?
Perhaps Spell_Check could answer my Q

Not in the league they haven't.

Out of the four remaining teams, historically South actually have the best October record.

I can understand fine - people who are being paid to do something are (supposed to be) professionals. DP people I would imagine are not being paid, so are not professional. If you want people to "get professional", they need to be paid.

From a personal point of view, the only DP commentator that grinds my gears is Peter Walsh, and he arguably should be the most "professional" of the lot.

The power were highly critical of the EAGLES for promoting Lachy so much before the draft because they didn't want him to go high so they would lose more points. Hypocrites!!!!!!

I was not the only one disappointed that another AFL club did not call Jones earlier (like #10), forcing the Power to match.

24.11 (155) -That's actually the highest score the Crows Reserves have conceded in the SANFL, and the highest anyone in the comp has scored since Rd2 2018.

That's something I didn't notice. It's actually just the third occasion post WW1, the other two being the premiership decider in 1921, and Rd 19 1968:

Port 3.1 4.3 4.6 4.8 (32)
Norwood 0.4 1.5 2.6 3.6 (24)
Adelaide, 34800

West 5.1 8.2 8.5 8.5 (53)
Glenelg 3.2 4.3 7.4 7.5 (47)
Glenelg, 12462

Big Phil wrote:When was the last time the Bays started nine and zip, Spelly?

1981

The SANFL Grand Final has been held on the October long weekend 18 times previously, perhaps less than you think. I will explain why.

Prior to 1940, Labour Day (or Eight Hours Day as it was known), was held on the second Wednesday in October. In 1940, it was changed to the first Monday, then from 1941 to the second Monday. Indeed it was changed to a Monday due to the war, because of the continuity of the working week in war time was broken.

It was only in 1992 that it was permanently changed to the first Monday in October. However, the 1989 Grand Final became the first to be played on the long weekend, and the following year, the first to be played on a Sunday during this weekend. The fixture in 1990 was initially set for Saturday, but was pushed back a day due to the AFL Grand Final re-scheduled to then. And in a slight off-topic, preceeding 1990, 1984 was the only Sunday Grand Final to have been played; every GF from 1994 onwards has been on a Sunday.

Therefore, 1992 to 2013 inclusive, 16 out of the 22 premiership deciders were played on the long weekend; those that were not: 2000, 2001, 2006, 2007, 2011 and 2012. 2000 being because of the earlier finish due to the Sydney Olympics. The other years were to make it the weekend after the AFL GF.

Jim05 wrote:Silver in some horse event

Hoy at 62 becomes the oldest medalist for any country in any Olympic sport since 1968...pretty sure he's the oldest Australian to win a medal.

India briefly had an extra fielder after the lunch break; some 'extra' from the crowd kitted up in India gear, with JARVO 69 on the back, took the field. He was pointing to the insignia saying he was an Indian player as he was caught!

https://websites.mygameday.app/assoc_page.cgi?c=0-7180-0-0-0&a=CLEAR

South Australia National Football League (SANFL) Hamley Bridge Football Club Butcher, John Approved 2021-08-13 2021-08-13

Adelaide Plains league have finished their minor round. Hamley Bridge didn't make the finals starting this weekend, so Butch is free to play.

This may bore a few, but it reminds me of a player who played for South in 1933, when I was researching that seasons players.

https://www.safc.com.au/every-south-adelaide-player.html

Player 693 I believe is Harold Roy Holder; he played for Goodwood in the Amateur League, but because that season finished much earlier, he then turned out for the Association (Reserves) side for a couple of matches, then the League side for the last two.

spell_check - if memory serves me correctly, there was a player who came in and played for the Eagles either in finals or just before finals around 2005ish under Fuller. Can’t remember his name. He was an Olympic water polo player or something? I don’t think he’d been with the squad all year, but presume he must’ve been playing footy somewhere. Does that ring a bell?

Chris Martin - 2002 played Rds 1-2; 21-23; EF & SF, then came back for the last round in 2005, and played the four finals.

2nd Semi finals by %, from 1931 onwards:
Central: 13-2 (86.67%)
Torrens 3-1 75.00
Sturt 11-6 64.71
North 10-6 62.50
Port 28-23 54.90
Norwood 9-15 37.50
Eagles 5-9 35.71
West 4-9 30.77
Glenelg 4-12 25.00
South 1-5 16.67

100 points to 7 in 50 minutes of running time or just under a quarter and a half. In todays footy, that is insane.

These exclude years in which there was no award, and include retrospective awards:
34 - South 1957 (Jim Deane) to 1991 (Mark Naley)
30 - Eagles 1991 to 2021 (James Tsitas)
27 - Torrens 1963 (Lindsay Head) to 1990
27 - Sturt 1961 (John Halbert) to 1988 (Greg Whittlesea)
24 - Glenelg 1982 (Tony McGuinness) to 2006 (Brett Backwell)
21 - North 1913 (Tom Leahy) to 1937 (Harold Hawke)
20 - Glenelg 1949 (Allan Crabb) to 1969 (Fred Phillis)

Other clubs:
18 - Woodville 1972 (Malcolm Blight) to 1990
16 - Norwood 1997 (Andrew Jarman) to 2013 (Matt Thomas)
15 - Central 1989 (Gilbert McAdam) to 2004 (Paul Thomas)
15 - West 1939 (Ray McArthur) to 1957 (Ron Benton)
15 - West 1962 (Ken Eustice) to 1977 (Trevor Grimwood)
13 - Port 1925 (Peter Bampton) to 1938 (Bob Quinn)

Seasons to first Magarey Medal for club:
31 - Eagles (James Tsitas) 2021
16 - South (Frank Barry) 1915
9 - West (James Tierney) 1908
9 - Woodville (Malcolm Blight) 1972
8 - Glenelg (Jim Handby) 1928
4 - Torrens (Tom Mackenzie) 1902
3 - North (Philip Sandland) 1901
3 - Sturt (Hendrick Waye) 1903
2 - Port (Stan Malin) 1899
2 - Central (Gary Window) 1965
1 - Norwood (Albert Green) 1898

Also massive congrats to Sam Lonergan, according to 7, he polled two votes - the first player to ever poll votes without playing

Other stuff:

- Glenelg polled the most votes in the Magarey count for the first time since 1975;
- Since full voting records have been published (1933-), this is the 5th time - 1934, 1969, 1973, 1975, 2021
- Adjusting for the number of rounds in a season, the 86 polled was the highest since Central in 2004
- Using a 22 round season as base, it equalled the club record set in 1973
- Bryce Gibbs is the 3rd oldest to have won the Medal, (32 y 6 m 13 d) behind Harold 'Vic' Cumberland (Sturt, 1911, 34 y 3 m 21 d) and Don Lindner (North, 1967, 32 y 6 m 18 d)
-As the votes were read out, Eagles became the highest team vote getter from 1991 onwards in Round 13. At this point in time, with the exception of the Crows Reserves, every other club had won at least two times in this era. Leek Alleer polled 1 votes for Central to be 4 ahead in the 1991 onwards vote total, then Redden and Stengle made the deficit one...and it was the clubs first medalist James Tsitas who overtook the Dogs with 3 votes.
Votes Team Medals won
2140 Eagles 1
2117 Central 2
2046 Norwood 6
1957 Port 5
1783 Sturt 8
1687 North 7
1620 South 5
1600 Glenelg 2
1494 West 2

Want something other than Bay baiting? All righty, here's my loose change:

"Glenelg are a momentum side, we did talk about during the week...what we need to do if they get a run on" This quote, attributed to master coach Jade Sheedy after the 2nd Semi final, all but confirmed to me that this is not the Eagles sides you saw in the last two decades. Even 1994 if you like. Initially I thought during that run on in the last quarter "here we go again", but then "no, this is a Sheedy led side, lets see what happens". See above for the answer.

This leads me to the Grannie...I feel, Balboa vs Drago inspiration aside, that his coaching gives the players confidence to stand up against anyone in the finals. Partington? No Goldy? No worries! In the past, during those many failed finals campaigns, was there a fall back to combat when things got tough (invariably against sides donning red and white)? I rather believe it was more like 1:15 here https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XTElSJExL4U&ab_channel=TheSimpsons .

Basically you could say about the big day, the first quarter was almost a carbon copy of the previous outing, right down to the score. The second was a modern day football tug of war, then the third and fourth quarters was the only time out of the 5 premierships, where that killer instinct which Port and Dogs sides once had showed, right down to that sweet end. While there were avenues to goal for the gold-green-blue, it was like Golden Grove for the Tigers - mostly cul-de-sacs. One to highlight the point was the smother by Sinor in the 3rd quarter. While it wasn't the biggest winning margin of the 5, it was the most crushing - consider the 2nd biggest losing margin by a minor premier in the decider; lowest finals score by Glenelg for starters.

To keep this post short, while nothing will top 2011, there was a particular constant with that game - both Jack Oatey Medalists were one of the two ruckmen on the day; Jarrad Redden was the other ruck both times (but was high up in the 22 best players this time around), and Jack Hannath was one of the opposing ruck players. I want to single out two other players - pleased for Comma after missing out last year, and Kobe Mutch for his best game of the year. The least visible player we had was Lehmann...but his opponent was not less camouflaged either!

The challenge is of course to deal with more player losses and go for a triple treat next year!

BTW thanks Redbacks you utter spuds. Now everyone is talking up Usman 'soft ******* dissmissal' Khawaja as the answer to our top order problems. FMD he's a marshmellow. A more frustrating batsman you will not find currently playing in Australia.

regards,

REB

You probably want to thank the umpires for that; long before he got to 174 he did glove it behind on two separate occasions, but each time not out was decided.

Juvenile humourists unite with Cummins and Head facing Root and Wood...on a serious note, I noticed that Skull, Warne and Guha paid little attention at all to the (at the time) good job Head and Carey were doing out on the crease; even when they ran four (after a 4 and a 3), Guha was like "that's the end of the over...they ran four". Then as soon as Gilly and Hussey came on to commentary, they both acknowledged them straight away.

Getting this from Cricinfo, fastest centuries in Australia by balls faced:

57 AC Gilchrist Australia v England WACA 2006/07
69 DA Warner Australia v India WACA 2011/12
70 CH Gayle West Indies v Australia WACA 2009/10
71 RC Fredericks West Indies v Australia WACA 1975/76
78 DA Warner Australia v Pakistan SCG 2016/17
82 DA Warner Australia v West Indies SCG 2015/16
84 AC Gilchrist Australia v Zimbabwe WACA 2003/04
84 ML Hayden Australia v Zimbabwe SCG 2003/04
85 TM Head Australia v England Gabba 2021/22
87 HM Amla South Africa v Australia WACA 2012/13
89 RR Lindwall Australia v England MCG 1946/47
93 DA Warner Australia v South Africa Adelaide 2012/13
94 AC Gilchrist Australia v England SCG 2002/03
97 K Srikkanth India v Australia SCG 1985/86

I've seen many videos of Warne's wickets over the past 3 days, Roblinda2 on YouTube has posted some good videos and Fox has has shown alot of footage as there's been some chat about that on here about it and it got me thinking, what's the favourite and most memorable Shane Warne wicket for everyone on here?

Mine is Warne bowling Kevin Pietersen around his legs (and hitting off stump) in England's second innings of the 2006 Ashes Test in Adelaide.

Paul Adams reverse sweeping @ Port Elizabeth 1997 :P

The SA Scorpions will play Tasmania in the WNCL final, as NSW lost to Qld in the last match.

Since it became the WNCL in 1996/97, this and last season are the first two seasons that NSW have failed to make the final. NSW won 20 out of the 24 finals prior. SA beat NSW in 2015/16 to end a 10 consecutive winning streak by NSW. This is Tasmania's first final.

Last time Australia won on the subcontinent, was Lyon's first Test series - Sri Lanka in 2011.

A really good team performance:
Khawaja - 91, 104*
Warner - 7, 51
Smith - 59, 17
Green - 79
Carey - 67 (that partnership may well be the difference, their 6 & 7 scored 28 combined for the match)
Starc - 4/33. 1/53
Cummins - 5/56, 3/23
Lyon - 1/95, 5/83

The others - as usual, Head playing some exquisite shots, but only getting 20 odd in the first dig; Labuschagne below his standards in this series, but added runs in the 2nd dig to help set the declaration...that leaves Swepson, who took a good catch to dismiss Shaheen.

I've said it before somewhere, but you'd think the AFL would invest in goal umpire cam with all the advancements in tech since the SANFL first saw it on the ABC in 2001.

I don’t see how that would help as modern goal umpiring doctrine seems to have given up on getting in line with the incoming ball, instead they look on from the opposite post.

That's for contests on the line, if it's not in danger of being touched on the line they should be under the flight. I'm talking those such contests on the line - the camera on the post is most of the time further away from the contest than the goal umpire.

No, not those type of parents who want to call their offspring Apple or La-a, but rather from the 'every player who played' list which I've been updating. This is the list of players who don't share their first name with anyone else; nor their last name with anyone else. I've tried at best to find their birth name to make this authentic, but there will be some who will probably be taken out because it's a nickname or a shortened form - eg. Gil Butchart or Jez McLennan. Anyway here is the list, with debut year if there is no DOB:

A-J:

Alright, all answers have been revealed.

mighty_tiger_79 wrote:sorry Williamson, i may have cost him the 200

You didn't; he now has the most double tons for a NZer (5) , goes past BazBall

Yeah well, that's what I was saying before, why not have a wicket that gives something for everyone...and your result is:

-7 instances of 3 wickets in an innings
-9 50+ scores in an innings
-Second time in Test history a result was decided by one run
-Fourth time in Test history a team enforced the follow-on and lost (first time it wasn't Australia)

4th highest total in ODI cricket without a 50 (eventually will appear in here):

http://howstat.com/cricket/Statistics/M ... sp?Stat=50

I have updated this list now; one interesting name is the 1919 leading goalkicker - I have always seen this name as L.Lackman, Len Lackman, or Lackmann, but his full name is actually Loyal Leslie Lackmann, who came from Nhill and played from 1915 to 1919 for Port.

Glenelg's league and reserve teams finished with the same scoreline, 15.10 (100)

I bet that doesn't happen very often, hey spell_check ?

It's uncommon, but not super rare. From the table below, if all teams were done, it looks like a once yearly occurrence on average:

Rd 18 1972 Central 7.7 (49) vs Port 7.11 (53) (L) 9.8 (62) (R)
Rd 10 1979 Central 18.11 (119) vs West 16.16 (112) (L) 19.17 (131) (R)
Rd 15 1981 Central 14.16 (100) vs Glenelg 17.9 (111) (L) 13.12 (90) (R)
Rd 3 2006 Central 7.11 (53) vs Glenelg 22.16 (148) (L) 23.14 (152) (R)
Rd 4 2017 Central 11.10 (76) vs Glenelg 12.9 (81) (L) 11.11 (77) (R)
Rd 15 2019 Central 11.11 (77) vs West 10.2 (62) (L) 8.6 (54) (R)
Rd 16 1992 Eagles 16.4 (100) vs Norwood 14.4 (88) (L) 4.10 (34) (R)
Rd 18 1997 Eagles 11.9 (75) vs North 17.17 (119) (L) 18.7 (115) (R)
Rd 5 2002 Eagles 5.7 (37) vs Central 16.11 (107) (L) 8.7 (55) (R)
Rd 6 2007 Eagles 16.9 (105) vs Glenelg 11.10 (76) (L) 19.19 (133) (R)
Rd 13 1923 Glenelg 6.5 (41) vs Torrens 16.21 (117) (L) 7.13 (55) (R)
Rd 6 1928 Glenelg 12.17 (89) vs Sturt 15.11 (101) (L) West 8.11 (59) (R) - same weekend
Rd 2 1940 Glenelg 11.16 (82) vs Norwood 14.21 (105) (L) 19.10 (124) (R)
Rd 14 1954 Glenelg 7.7 (49) vs Port 12.16 (88) (L) 13.18 (96) (R)
Rd 14 1963 Glenelg 7.8 (50) vs Torrens 12.18 (90) (L) 7.14 (56) (R)
Rd 16 1964 Glenelg 4.5 (29) vs Port 15.18 (108) (L) 5.10 (40) (R)
Rd 9 1999 Glenelg 7.5 (47) vs Central 9.10 (64) (L) 24.9 (153) (R)
Rd 3 2004 Glenelg 10.6 (66) vs Sturt 15.11 (101) (L) 11.10 (76) (R)
Rd 18 2006 Glenelg 18.11 (119) vs Norwood 10.16 (76) (L) 10.14 (74) (R)
Rd 13 2011 Glenelg 15.10 (100) vs North 21.3 (129) (L) 13.9 (87) (R)

With those close to the ground catches, what most of the time distorts things is the camber of the ground. You can see in those pictures, the centre wicket area at the very least is raised. So you can be sure the ground level itself will be lower than what it may appear.

Even if the ground was perfectly flat, the angle from the height of the camera lens to the ground will make things not ideal when it comes to something like this.

Oi spell_check ,

When was the last time the league leader copped a 100+ point smashing? It must've happened once or twice over the years.

Don't reckon it would have ever happened to a ladder leader that was 8-0.

Not 8-0; I've found four past losses by the ladder leader:

Rd 3 1922 (2-0) North 4.5 Norwood 22.13 Norwood
Rd 21 1982 (15-4-1) Port 10.13 Norwood 28.17 Norwood
Rd 17 1985 (13-3) North 16.11 West 31.21 Richmond
Rd 7 1991 (5-0) Eagles 7.7 North 28.12 Prospect