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Re: Great Southern Football League

Might be too early for end of minor round ladder predictions but why not:

Encounter bay
strathalbyn
mcclaren-have recruited quality
goolwa pt elliot
yankalilla-waste of $$$ if they dont!

willunga
langhorne creek
victor
Myponga sellicks
mt compass
by oldbomber
Fri Mar 06, 2015 4:24 pm
 
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Re: River Murray Football League talk

If meningie dont get a few extra points plus a few other concessions from the league here and there due to their location and low population how on earth do you expect them to be competitive with the bridge teams (or dont you like a contest UTB?) who get first choice of all upcoming juniors, have access to more players by simply having 5+times the population base of meningie plus the advantage of being closer to adelaide for potential recruits?

an even competition is what everyone wants, fact is its going to take quite some time to get to with points systems, salary cap implementation etc on the agenda. have heard its only their 3rd flag since they have been in rmfl so its not as though they are a protected species by any means and looks like they have been down for quite a while previously so as a club they obviously had to work their backsides off to get the top, maybe everyone else is better off working harder to catch up to them rather than cry about it on here...
by oldbomber
Fri Mar 27, 2015 7:25 pm
 
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Re: Re: Points System Is Crucifying Country Footy

If small country clubs are happy to fundraise and pay out $ to keep their town alive or chase success good on them I say as football is so critically important in these communities.

Points system means well by rewarding loyalty but doesnt reward hard working clubs who achieve success, it penalizes them and has pushed player payments up so needs tweaking.

Salary cap is a joke and I hope struggling clubs in particular just do what they need to do to survive!

SANFL and SAAFL both have massive population bases to choose players from yet are a bunch of sooks. They have no idea what country clubs go through just to put their team on the park and hence keep their communitys alive each year and instead of changing the rules to suit them how about they use their energy fundraising or finding a way to keep their players.
For example 50bux a game for SANFL ressies and expected to train 4 or 5 times a week or 300-800 in some cases for twice a week trg out in country on apprentice wages is not a hard choice.

CFL makes all these rules and I for one wont mind one bit if country leagues tell them where to go. Long live country footy!
by oldbomber
Thu Jul 02, 2015 6:11 pm
 
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Re: HFL Division 3 (C grade)

Really? Was at footy the other day and Milang have a great deck but would the lights be up to it? Hoping milang can cause what would be a huge upset and come home with the flag!
by oldbomber
Sat Aug 15, 2015 4:49 pm
 
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Re: HFL Division 3 (C grade)

Its not like the hills footy league to make dodgy decisions...said no one ever.

Are these the same peanuts in charge of div 3 that sorted out relegation issues between div 1 and 2 so well oh hang on no they changed their minds about echunga coming up to div 1 initially then lost 60+k in court costs the following year because they cant even word their own documents correctly.

As stated earlier milang deck is in mint condition, if blackwoods isnt then move it...whats the drama? Im a fan of rotateing grand finals to all clubs so no issues with a home gf if a team is lucky enough to play in one or changing location if a club cant sort their oval out for a big game.

If it is the same people involved higher with hills fl that have backflipped and stuffed up on another decision then shame on them, again.
by oldbomber
Mon Aug 17, 2015 9:42 pm
 
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Re: Riverland Football Chatter

Moorook Gun Lenny Campbell & ex Tea Tree Gully Div 1 Player Ben Noske both to Ramco, Big INS!
Any news on O'Gorman?

Latest news, he still has no hair but has said he will lead Ramco to the flag. Do yourself a favour and lock it in

Does anyone give newbies sedan cambrai a chance in the independants comp. Should they be competitive or you think ramco are just gonna have to much for anyone? Whats peoples thoughts about them coming in particularly with regard to travel? Good or bad for the comp overall?
by oldbomber
Tue Feb 09, 2016 4:48 pm
 
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Re: Points System Is Crucifying Country Footy

Was in a meeting today with a number of country footy people. Some are playing by the CFL rules and a bucket load aren't, is what I learnt.
Some say they will stick to the rules, but it is already badly effecting their ability to recruit players and they blame the salary cap.
The other clubs, said they'll just do as they please and play by their own rules. It seems as if it's a 50/50 split as to who's doing what.

What do you think will happen next year and the year after, when these clubs who struggle to recruit and are playing by the rules finish last?

Got a fair idea after listening to people chattering today. Playing by the rules will only last a season or two judging by the mood of some people.
Clubs their members and supporters in parochial country towns won't let clubs sit at the bottom of the cellar for too long. The members and sponsors will only put up with finishing last for a few seasons, before they refuse to abide by ridiculous rules that are impossible to police.

There is no easy answer that will work for everyone. It would be nice if equalisation was simple but it isnt. I think the salary cap is irrelevant, it can not be policed and is a lame attempt at self preservation by the amateurs who cant keep up with the fund raising out in the country. The one thing for certain is that the big spending clubs who can raise the money will continue to raise it and spend it legally or pay under the table. This will happen and whether it be required just to put a team on the park each week or be successful and go after premierships its more about basic survival in the long run.

It is getting harder and harder to put a team on the park in country footy each week and therefore keep small towns alive. Only the strong will survive... possibly being those clubs with the most passion and ability to raise funds...these things are important for the future

We live in a ever changing landscape where rural populations are declining along with numbers at grass root level across the board going to other sports or not having time to play footy anymore etc. Unfortuneatly it appears there is a bidding war that has broken out between country and city/amateur football for the players available. I personally believe city/amateurs doesnt have the same level of community, passion, support and atmosphere in general that is evident out in the country with regard to footy and if they did they wouldnt be trying to implement bull#$%! rules and restrictions they would take country footy on head first and try and beat them fair and square in fundraising...but they cant as the pure fact is they dont have the same level of desire, passion and sense of community that sporting clubs posess out in the country.

Hopefully somehow these small rural towns and clubs keep fighting to survive. its such an australian thing to be having a kick out in the paddock in the middle of nowhere with your mates and I enjoy nothing more than driving down the rural highways on a saturday past a town with as little as a silo and a footy oval in it, pulling over to watch a game crack a tinnie and have a chat with the locals. Cant do that in the city! Its awesome to find hundreds of people enjoying a day out at our great game and whilst i wish them well ultimately i couldnt give two shits about city/amateur footy solely because of their attempt at self preservation to enforce rules on country clubs and leagues because they cant beat or compete with them fairly.

Despite the difficulties faced and tough times ahead I sincerely hope this great australian tradition of grass roots footy out in the country continues on for many many years to come and can only hope country clubs and leagues to do what they need to in order to survive regardless of whether thats playing by the rules or not....
by oldbomber
Thu Feb 11, 2016 6:23 am
 
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Re: Points System Is Crucifying Country Footy

The name of this thread would be more accurate if it read...... the points system is crucifying clubs that have no idea when it comes to recruiting the right people and/or sustainably managing it's player payment system.

It could also be named. "The points and salary cap system, is currently crucifying country clubs so the SANFL Reserves are propped up and the SAAFL clubs who can't match the country clubs with recruiting, money, administration or volunteers, have devised a system where they think it will be tougher for country clubs to afford and attract city based players away from the city" No point in sugar coating the reasons

I don't disagree, but is it not a step in the right direction? Be interested to hear how you think they should approach and deal with the dilemma oyster if a salary cap and points system is not the answer? Yes, each strategy has their problems - but it is a complex issue.

SANFL clubs in particular need to lift their game if they think it is ok to expect young blokes on apprentice wages or studying to train 4-5 nights a week and play saturday for minimal $$$.

These guys go well out in the country for less of a commitment and get compensated better for their time plus help keep declining numbers up out in country footy. Country clubs are struggling to retain numbers and have identified an area where they can recruit players and these often small rural clubs are beating the SANFL at retaining young players because they can provide better overall opportunities and often more enjoyable conditions to play footy. If the SANFL reserve comp was so awesome to be part of why would players consider leaving? Its not.

To the people saying you should just invest and develop your juniors, thats great in theory but i cant name too many country clubs with small populations saying we have excess juniors to even consider this. Often kids leave the country when they turn 18 anyway as their just isnt the jobs to keep them all local.

Bottom line is country is struggling for numbers overall and if the people involved in these clubs to put it simply have more passion and are prepared to work harder to raise money through sponsorship and recruit players to keep their club going then that is no reason to change the rules because city folk and big bullies like the SANFL simply cant match their desire to be successful and keep their footy club and town alive.
by oldbomber
Mon Feb 15, 2016 10:34 am
 
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Re: Riverland Football Chatter

Saw another coward punch yesterday in an Independent game, the 2nd in less than a season. Both times, in true coward fashion, the offender bolted for the interchange to avoid retribution. This behaviour, combined with frequent cheap shots is a blight on the league. With the shortage of umpires resulting in inexperienced club volunteers putting their hands up, this behaviour becomes impossible to keep in check. I know some leagues now video all games. Is this something that needs to be considered?
A shame to hear that. Umpires cant see everything so yeah a lot of leagues do video every game for many reasons not limited to resolving scoring disputes to providing better player safety which im all for. Im also of the opinion now days these incidents can be a legal issue cowards punches should be treated the same weather its at a pub or on the footy field and its time these gutless scumbags were held accountable.

Perhaps even the club itself, i believe in the Saafl if a club has a player suspended all grades lose 2 premiership points...dont know the full ins and outs but i believe a salisbury club missed finals in a grade last year for b and c grade indiscretions. Whatever it takes to stamp it out im all for.
by oldbomber
Tue Jun 06, 2017 4:27 pm
 
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Re: Riverland Football Chatter

A lot of sooking going on here about Waikerie. If they are winning flags using the least amount of points obviously they have a great club culture, tight playing group, have put the time into their juniors, kept locals onside and are riding the crest of the wave at the moment from their previous hard work.

As for salary cap slander i question how many clubs are actually playing by the rules...with 1 marquee player allowed at 1k per game and no other single player meant to get more than just 500. I would question any club with more than 1 big name recruit!

At the end of the day...Don't get bitter. Get better
by oldbomber
Tue Jan 23, 2018 2:26 am
 
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Re: Kowree Naracoorte Football League

The article states the club did not sanction or fund the sign on fees yet they are in breach of the rules and going to wear the penalty for it.

Raises more questions than answers at this stage. Hopefully once it is sorted all is revealed so other clubs know what not to do...

Who paid this sign on? What was their position in the club? Could the club have done anything to stop this? How did they come unstuck?

im tipping quite a few clubs in kntfl are not doing everything 100% right when it comes to the new salary cap rules. You only have to look at the amount of quality players travelling several hours from adelaide to play country footy in knt...they are not doing it for small pocket change!

The Sanfl and amateurs are just trying to protect their declining brands and player numbers yet they cant match the fund raising and community spirit on show by these rural population disadvantaged towns.

Overall i dont think these salary cap rules are fair to small country clubs fighting for success and in some cases survival. How dare the scumbags in the Sanfl tell clubs what they can and cant spend their money on. Kyby won 5 games for the year and are simply doing what many other clubs are...unfortuneatly they are just the ones who got caught this time around.
by oldbomber
Thu Feb 07, 2019 5:14 pm
 
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Re: Riverland Football Chatter

Sounds like BSR are in a fair bit of strife and future looking grim
Yep. Sounds like they are really struggling for numbers. Independant comp really needs to keep every team they can with just 14 rounds as it is draw is very fair playing each team twice. Hopefully they can rally put a team on the park and get competitive again soon

I know it is a rather touchy subject & don't want to upset anyone but at what point is it all to much for the Riverland to run both leagues?

Sounds like Loxton & Loxton North are struggling numbers wise, not just seniors but also juniors. Can Loxton keep feeding both RFL clubs plus Wunkar & Brownswell?

Every community deserves a football club but each year, it seems to get harder & harder......
Thats a fair question and one worth discussing. If loxtons 2 teams are struggling down the track they may have to merge meaning rfl back to 5 teams. This would be more sustainable hopefully.

Rifl just hangs on as long as it can after that as far as im concerned. Explore options such as 16 a side and comp just runs until you are down to 3, 4 or 5 clubs and they collectively pull pin much like they did in mid murray league st some point. Juniors are nearly done so maybe it will just be a senior comp similar to millewa football league in victoria. Sadly Rifl might really struggle in next 5-10 years to keep its head above water. Hope it finds a way as like you said rural communities need their footy and netball club to survive.
by oldbomber
Wed Mar 27, 2019 8:22 am
 
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