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Re: Grade Cricket

Andrew Sincock has stepped down from the SACA Board.

That is significant.
My mail is that he was opposed to cutting a team so by stepping down do we assume that SACA are actually going to go through with this?

I didn't think they'd actually pull the trigger to be honest.

It certainly is significant. Very interesting to see what happens now. Any SACA Board member with a semblance of conscience should be doing the same thing.

SACA Board about to look like absolute dogs with what will probably be revealed in the next day or so.
Maybe some jumped shipped because they value their souls.
by woodvillewarrior
Thu Mar 03, 2016 3:47 pm
 
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Re: Grade Cricket

Aerie wrote:When was the last time Prospect, Adelaide and University made A Grade finals? Records don't go that far back in MyCricket.


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From someone who has SACA AGM Books.
by woodvillewarrior
Wed Mar 09, 2016 11:31 pm
 
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Re: Grade Cricket

Interesting stats. A break down of Shield players produced/games played would also be interesting.

Fair bit of rain in the last 8 hours! Hope clubs had the full square covers on...

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Can't be 100% on this as it is not from the SACA web site since they removed the info at the start of this year
by woodvillewarrior
Thu Mar 10, 2016 10:06 am
 
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Re: Grade Cricket

Question for those people involved at Premier Clubs – How do you think the SACA Premier Cricket Department has performed?

Let me start by saying I think the two major people involved are very good people and by all reports easy to deal with. I also told there has been a complete change of personnel within the department and a lack of education, training and understanding of previous conventions has probably prompted this question. It is also probably related to the performance of the Permit Committee as well.
Having heard a player had been replaced in a side mid game because he had college cricket absolutely stunned me so a bit more research via mycricket and discussions with people around clubs raised some serious concerns.

Before I list them, all clubs have followed a process so if these concerns are valid, they are not aim at any club itself.

1. Replacement of players
I couldn’t find any representative cricket that would allow a replacement player for the following games. However, there are some players that I simply do not know not being involved.

a. 2nd Grade – WTDCC vs Port Adelaide
i. Mackenzie Best replaced by Ben Fulton so he could play for Rostrevor.

b. 2nd Grade – Round 10 - Southern vs Port Adelaide
i. Shaun Tanner (Southerns) - rumoured to go to a wedding

c. 1st Grade – Round 6 – Sturt vs Kensington
i. Edward Verco (Sturt) (Affects 1st, 2nd, 3rd Grades) (No idea about this player)

d. 2nd Grade – Round 7 – Southern District vs Adelaide Uni
i. Singh, Pushpinder (Southern District) (Affects 2nd, 3rd Grades)

e. 3rd Grade – Round 7 – Southern District vs Adelaide Uni
i. McCormack, Jarryd H (Southern District) or
ii. Lovelock, Luke H (Southern District) or
iii. Stidston, Joel A (Southern District)
1. Your allowed 1 replacement in 3rd Grade under the rules.
2. There was 1 replacement from 2nd Grade to 3rd Grade. (See “Singh”above as possibly incorrectly allowed)
3. That leaves 1 “extra” replacement for what valid reason?

f. 2ndGrade – Round 7 – Northern Districts vs Port Adelaide
i. Panagiotou, Tyson or Pascoe, Kirk T (Northern Districts)

g. 2nd Grade – Round 11 - Kensington vs Tea Tree Gully
i. Cappelluti, Michael and Leddicoat, Christian (Kensington)

h. 2nd Grade – Round 11 – Woodville vs Southern District
i. Hynes, Tom (Southern District) (Affects 2nd and 3rd Grades)

2. Incorrect Permits for Finals
a. Kensington had 8 permits for a 4th Grade SF team .
i. 4 of them were 100% fine as were coming down from higher grades
ii. Evans, Thomas J, Watts, Campbell (+), Woods, James C & Harms, Oliver got permits after not qualifying. I am told the reason for the permit being approved was that they were named on the piece paper (ie team sheet) (not really a reason is it!)

b. Adelaide had a couple in their 4th Grade SF and GF team that had not qualified in Brad Roberts and Anthony Cormack.

c. Kensington had Simon Schwerdt play 2nd Grade T20 finals without playing a single game and William Montgomery play 3rd Grade T20 finals without playing a single game.

So what is the point of having qualifications if your fine to play after not having played any games at all?

3. Under 17 Statewide Cup
a. They rescheduled two days of cricket which they are not allowed to do.
i. Can cancel or change format of game, but not reschedule
b. The bylaws are very clear that if a major round match does not have a 1st innings result the highest team goes through.
c. Under the bylaws Southerns and East Torrens should have been joint winners.
d. As soon as the semi finals were called off, it removed Glenelg and Tea Tree Gully from the competition.
e. How the hell Glenelg is premier is an absolute joke (Glenelg has actually benefitted from using the correct bylaws previously having been awarded a premiership after heat affected games)
f. I think what we they did is a good idea and should be incorporated in the bylaws in some way. But it currently isn’t and they ignored what bylaws there were.


4. Under 14 Reds Premiership Table and Individual Stats
a. Kensington vs Southern Districts
1. Kensington batted first and made 142 in 40 overs
2. Southern District made 150 in 40 overs.
3. This is not possible as the game must end and a maximum of 148 runs if a 6 was hit while scores were tied. This match was lived scored so a ball by ball summary is available and shows that Southern Districts final score should be 144.

ii. Sturt vs Adelaide match must be rectified. (more important due to the high numbers of runs scored after the match should have completed)
1. Sturt batted first and made 135
2. Adelaide made 249 in 40 overs
3. Adelaide’s maximum score is 141 if a 6 was hit when the scores were tied.
4. There is between 108 and 113 runs that must be removed from the premiership tables and from the individuals who scored those runs.

5. Under 16s Reds
a. The Southern District vs Adelaide was restarted on the 2nd week of game. (Scheduled as a two day game yet only 40 overs bowled each on the second day - see the match audit)
b. You simply cannot restart a cricket match – once play is called by the umpire it is game on until the end.
c. Play must continue from the point it was stopped the previous week for whatever reason – in this case a dangerous pitch – and like wet weather, the remaining overs split.

6. Women’s 2nd Grade Premiership Table appears incorrect
a. Women’s 2nd Grade has performance points
b. This is not on the premiership table
c. It moves Southern District form 3rd to 2nd
d. So wrong teams are playing at incorrect grounds this week
e. And should there be adverse weather, then the wrong teams will be declared the winner

7. West End Cup Stats are wrong
a. Do they award a “one day player of the year” at Bradman Medal?
b. If so, several games are missing stats from Dec 1st.
c. Hope its not used by coaches to vote on anything that is normally sent out each year.

So if any of those concerns are valid, they may have only affected the 1st Grade, 2nd Grade, 3rd Grade, 2nd Grade T20, 3rd Grade T20, 4th Grade T20, Under 16 Reds, Under 14 Reds, Under 17s and Women’s 2nd Grade this season and possibly any Bradman Medal awards related to the One Day Comp.

As I said, this was from mostly MyCricket which never tells the whole story but it certainly raises a few questions.
by woodvillewarrior
Tue Mar 12, 2019 2:36 pm
 
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Re: Grade Cricket

Add the SACA 4th grade not being up to date ATM.
GDCC had ND forfeit last round, no points for that yet.
Believe it or not you don't get any points for a forfeit in the Ds!

It goes on points per game.

A forfeit (or washout or heat out) counts as zero points but no game played.

And apparently MyCricket can't handle that points system so they've had to send a separate spreadsheet around to clubs.

Incorrect on the forfeit part.
Correct on the drawn or Abandoned Match

Forfeits
309. A forfeit shall count as a win to the team receiving the forfeit:

Men’s 1st, 2nd, 3rd and 4th Premiers
310. Any team on receiving a forfeit in a match shall be awarded the maximum number of match points gained
by any team of the same Premier in the same round of matches. (Refer to Bylaw 300 for consequent forfeits
in lower Premiers and to Bylaw 301 for fines that may be imposed).
by woodvillewarrior
Thu Mar 14, 2019 7:40 pm
 
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