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Re: Adelaide Crows Reserves 2014

Adelaide "Crowval" does it for me. Whoever made that up should be hung, drawn and quartered.
by Aerie
Tue Sep 17, 2013 7:31 pm
 
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Re: Channel 7 announced by SANFL as preferred telecast partn

Why would Port Adelaide care to bring a sponsor to provide coverage of the SANFL?

Unless by Port Adelaide Rucci means Port Board Member and McGuire Media CEO Cos Cardone?

Exactly what would the SANFL be getting for $1 million?

It all sounds good, but like many things SANFL, lacking in the detail.
by Aerie
Thu Nov 07, 2013 11:32 pm
 
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Re: Rumours and Player Movement Discussions for 2014

SDK wrote:Watt ?


He has electrifying pace. Will light up Unley Oval.
by Aerie
Thu Nov 14, 2013 12:32 pm
 
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Re: Adelaide Crows Reserves 2014

Why is it the Crows and their nuffy supporters think that not just the SANFL clubs but every club in the state should do everything they possibly can to make them successful?
We don't bend over to help Carlton or Kangaroos or Brisbane, the Crows are no different
You are not the state team.
There is probably more South Australians that support Victorian clubs than SA clubs
And probably more members of interstate sides aswell, not sure of other clubs but Essendon had just over 5,500 SA members and id think Collingwood, Carlton and Hawthorn would have similar if not more

What is with that? I've never understood the desire to follow, let alone become a member of an interstate AFL side. Sure there'd be a few that lived there or knew someone that plays for them, but what about the rest? What connection is there? Just pick a side you saw on tv one day? Liked the colours? Seems a bit plastic to me.

It is sh*t that there are more members of Essendon in SA than any SANFL club.
by Aerie
Wed Nov 27, 2013 11:23 pm
 
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Re: SANFL Draw

A sneak peek at the early part of the draw and chat with the SANFL's Matty Duldig, from the SANFL site...

http://www.sanfl.com.au/news/sanfl_news/2350/


Edited for purists:


1976 SANFL FIXTURE ROUND 1:

Saturday, April 5
Glenelg v Sturt, Glenelg Oval, 2.20pm
Eagles v Central District, Woodville Oval, 2.20pm
South Adelaide v West Adelaide, Hickinbotham Oval, 2.20pm

BYE: Norwood, North Adelaide

Edited again for purists...
by Aerie
Sat Dec 07, 2013 8:25 am
 
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Re: Unlucky

Archie Jackson
by Aerie
Tue Dec 17, 2013 5:57 pm
 
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Re: Who have Norwood screwed over more ????

they havent screwed any one. they have done what they think was the best for the norwood fc. i cannot give an opinion if they ate right or wrong without any of the facts
all i can say is
"Norwood for premiers 2014"

I'm fairly certain they made it clear they were against AFL reserves side in the SANFL. They went back on there word. To me, thats unforgivable. This is a reason that my club no longer exists.

I'm not about to defend the actions of my club, but please don't blame anyone but your own for the changes at your club.

Not blaming your club however you are a a significant reason that my club no longer exists. If the crows did not get a reserve team in 2014, the power would not have pushed as hard for there reserves team. Just wish 1 more club would have seen the impact this will have on the leauge and would've voted no.

What a load of crap. You have no one else to blame but yourselves. "Your club" was one club well before Reserves talks were happening. Although one suspects, this was a plan all along. Port wanted a Reserves team every bit as much as the Crows.
by Aerie
Sun Dec 22, 2013 11:21 am
 
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Re: Crows Disgrace

The State guernsey represents every South Australian football club.

The Crows will be playing against 9 of these clubs this season.

Odd move. Hardly surprising. Never been less interested in Australian Rules Footy than I am at the moment.
by Aerie
Wed Feb 05, 2014 7:35 pm
 
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Re: SANFL Draw released..

JK wrote:
sub - way wrote:If the Game is at Norwood you do have to book seats or you end up standing, correction if you sit in the western stand you have to book seats.


Will be Adelaide Oval mate


Unless they decide to hold a concert or something...
by Aerie
Wed Feb 26, 2014 4:52 pm
 
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Re: Grade Cricket

Technically 9 teams still in the hunt. Might not be that many actually. Haven't really crunched the numbers.

1 East Torrens 107.5 (West Torrens, Prospect)
2 Woodville 102.5 (Glenelg, Tea Tree Gully)
3 Tea Tree Gully 102.5 (Port Adelaide, Woodville)
4 Sturt 97.5 (Southern District, West Torrens)
5 Kensington 97.5 (Northern Districts, Glenelg)
6 Northern Districts 92.5 (Kensington, Bye)
7 Port Adelaide 87.5 (Tea Tree Gully, Southern District)
8 Glenelg 82.5 (Woodville, Kensington)
9 Southern District 82.5 (Sturt, Port Adelaide)

I wonder if there will be any silly season outrights? :D Good thing about having a one dayer in the last round is they're not open to manipulation. A draw this round would be a killer blow.

Reckon East Torrens will go win-win and finish top.

The two Woodville games are massive - Glenelg, TTG.

Port could make things very interesting if they knock off TTG this week. Gullies win and you'd think they're safe.

Loser of Northerns and Kensington this round can kiss it goodbye.

Some interesting results on Saturday. Kensington (9/255) and Southerns (9/236) some reasonable totals against Northern Dist and Sturt. TTG 1/31 chasing 201 against Port. Glenelg 5/113 look shaky chasing Woodville's 221. Top placed East Torrens already 3 wickets down and still 20 runs behind, losing to bottom placed West Torrens - you would think there will be an outright result one way or another at that game, but West Torrens in the box seat.

My guess with a round and a half to go:

Tea Tree Gully and Woodville to play each other two weeks in a row (R13 for top spot and meet again in the Semi).
Kensington and East Torrens to play in the other Semi.
by Aerie
Sun Mar 02, 2014 5:28 pm
 
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Re: Sheffield Shield Scores around Oz

Not sure a Shield Final is needed. The scenario of one team only needing to draw, as well as playing over 5 days instead of the usual 4 makes it different to how the game is played every other game. Also the fact the AFL want the major grounds earlier now and it appears the Cricket Associations are happy to have something else on (i.e. Rolling Stones, Major League Baseball) instead. This year at least - rewarding the Shield to the top placed team after the minor round would have been a thrilling finish - with all 3 games on at the same time.
by Aerie
Sun Mar 23, 2014 8:40 pm
 
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Re: 2014 Tribunal News & Discussions

Despite a bit of confusion the only relevent issue here in regard to the hit a few seconds later was the intent and there was no doubting Syme's intent was to help the Eagles player which is commendable.Tragic really that probably the nicest and most caring player on the field was hit like he was.

I've been quite torn in the issue and have regarded Adam Grocke as a friend, he's a part of a lovely family that does an amazing amount of work for charity. But there is no doubting he tries to influence himself on a game at times with physical strength. I think Adam would be struggling with this and I'd think he would have already tried to contact Brad to express his regret, no excuse I know but he's not a bad person.

Well said. This was one action that anyone at the Eagles or Grocke himself (I'd imagine) would be ashamed of. It wasn't in the spirit of the game and he deserves a lengthy suspension (6-8 weeks?).

I don't think you can draw out this one action to reflect what he would be like on the other side of the white line, or even what he is like or has been like as a footballer for his whole career. He has been very good and once he's served his time on the sidelines, he can be very good again. In general, he influences the game with physical strength in a fair manner. This time he didn't because he was seething from what happened to a team mate minutes earlier, and that is no excuse neither, just what happened.

Thankfully Symes doesn't have facial fractures or a broken jaw to go with his concussion and hopefully Symes will have the option to continue to play if he wants to.

The Eagles as a football club probably need to reflect a little on the reputation they're gathering. Kane's hit on Gallagher in 2012 was equally disturbing and Parry stepped over the line a couple of times too often. Play hard by all means, that is a must, but play fair.
by Aerie
Tue Apr 08, 2014 2:40 pm
 
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Re: 2014 Tribunal News & Discussions

Elizabeth Oval, Round 14, Sat 19th July 2:10pm. Look forward to seeing holden78 with his number 14 Eagles guernsey standing on the members wing.

7 weeks, can't argue with that. Big loss to the Eagles given his role as a 2nd ruckman as well as forward this season.
by Aerie
Tue Apr 08, 2014 9:04 pm
 
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Re: AFL Reserves. The Pros and Cons:

The Pros - when the SANFL clubs beat them.
The Cons - when the SANFL clubs lose to them.
by Aerie
Sat Apr 26, 2014 11:22 am
 
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Re: Rnd 5 - South v Eagles @ Hickinbotham (Sun 4/5)

Didn't South trade Wundke for LPH? That's my understanding anyway. The Eagles were reluctant but LPH wanted out.

Eagles have been solid, without being outstanding so far. Players such as Batley, Borholm, Poole and Von Bertouch have stepped up as required. The next wave of Lloyd, Dunstan and Fitzgerald look promising.

Wundke and Boyd have been valuable additions and McGregor has been the real find of the season to add that spark that only Goldsworthy provided last season.

Grocke, Templeton, Heinjus and Rowntree add some depth if they can return later in the season.

Look forward to the game. Hopefully the Eagles can burst South's bubble.
by Aerie
Wed Apr 30, 2014 11:56 am
 
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Re: R5 - South V WWT Eagles Post Match

Excellent win once again to the Eagles. 4 goals down at half time, the Eagles kicked 6 to nothing to take the lead at 3/4 time. Then down by 7 points closing in on time on in the last with South having all the play. A period of about 2 minutes was filled with ball ups in the South attacking 50. Finally the Eagles broke clear and Wundke kicked the two winners in time on.

South playing a completely different brand of football. Occasionally loading up with 8 defenders. A little like West under Collins, but they have a quality target in Eddy. He had 5 goals to half time, but Giuffreida kept him goalless in the last half. Lots of chipping around by South when on occasions being more direct would've harmed the Eagles more. When it comes off though they look a quality outfit.

Great games by Jarrad and Powell and Wundke ending up being the match winner, backing up his good form vs Sturt. Probably another get out of jail win, but that'll do at this time of year.
by Aerie
Sun May 04, 2014 7:50 pm
 
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Re: Rnd 6 - Port Magpies v Sturt @ Alberton (Sun 11/5)

He was talking about us cheating the system. I thought the system allowed us to play our AFL players in our SANFL side? Don't see how thats cheating.

Part of the deal also involves the Poker tables at the Adelaide Casino. Port Magpies are allowed to know the Turn and the River card in advance and use the opponents money to make their bets. It's not cheating, the system allows it, I'd just avoid playing their table. For some reason lots of people still like to watch. I guess they like a winner.
by Aerie
Tue May 06, 2014 10:13 pm
 
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Re: The 2014 season no AFL in the SANFL whinge thread

There is so much done to equalise sporting competitions throughout the world (drug testing, salary cap, drafts, handicaps) and what has happened to the SANFL is going the polar opposite to this. No matter which way you look at it, the introduction of two AFL Reserves teams is not fair.

There are positives and negatives and those who see a fair, even competition, as the number one consideration are rightly bemused by what has happened.

From an AFL viewpoint, the consideration of an even, fair competition is outweighed by the need for developing players and for them, currently at least, the best option is to do this in their own backyard both in terms of value for money and strength of competition. They will tell themselves that there is increased exposure to the SANFL. Dittmar said it's been great, then when asked if he'd been to an SANFL game this season, said "no, but have enjoyed watching some games on tv, especially the Clare game".

I am not convinced that the increased exposure to the SANFL via commercial TV is even close to benefiting my club enough to outweigh the negatives that come with the new format. There is no more coverage of my SANFL club than there was before. In fact, I would say there is less. I guess we'd have to wait to see the finances from this years Annual Reports to really know.

There are other ways, including having a weekly SANFL game at Adelaide Oval, that would give the competition prestige and generate interest. The use of social media and the web is more important than paying $1,000,000 to have the game shown on Ch7 - which is essentially the only benefit the AFL clubs have bought (via sponsorship) to the competition.

The Eagles vs Sturt game at Unley Oval, with a crowd of 4000, which was directly up against both Crows and Power games on the same day told me that there is enough interest in the SANFL for it to be viable without the "assistance" of AFL clubs.

What is desperately needed is the SANFL administration to apply the spirit in which 5RPH and LifeFM have to the competition to generate interest and use the capital they should have to make it high quality for the current HD generation.

I think the SANFL would be best to cut ties with Port and the Crows at the end of the season. If Port Magpies win the SANFL premiership this year, it will be an absolute disgrace.

There are other ways to keep relevance for a younger generation of footballers and an alignment between the AFL and SANFL and that is to supply Port and Crows with top up players via Under 20's to use in whatever competition they could go to (preferably AFL Reserves or at least VFL). I believe this could apply nationally with alignment of elite Under 18 sides to all AFL and State League clubs, but that is another matter. Keep Junior Football, Development/Reserves Football and State League Football - which can all still be feeders to the AFL - separate.

For now, I reckon the SANFL bite the bullet and go it alone. The mainstream media, who all seem to be official ambassadors for the Crows (http://www.afc.com.au/the-club/information/ambassadors), will give the SANFL hell, but I'm not convinced it is the mainstream media who will ensure the SANFL survives and prospers anyway.

The SANFL will never be the number one show in town, but it has a niche, and I'd love to see the SANFL and its clubs make every post a winner NOW, while there is still strong enough links to SANFL clubs for the majority of families in South Australia.
by Aerie
Tue May 13, 2014 3:42 pm
 
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Re: The 2014 season no AFL in the SANFL whinge thread

Great post Aerie, sadly even if they reverse the decision at the end of the year and the AFL teams piss off the damage has been done, people like myself and others have found other ways to spend our time and $.

No chance the decision will be reversed

Agree unfortunately, unless the figures spiral down alarmingly and quickly. Not unless the AFL decide to introduce a national reserves competition will things change. They are currently looking at "talent pathways", although unfortunately I bet the "State League Model" is the thing they'll stick with.

http://www.afl.com.au/news/2014-05-12/the-matureage-move

My thoughts, which I think I've put on here before:

- AFL introduce national Reserves Competition.
- Scrap Rookie List, Keep 38 on Senior List, 2 Spots for Mature State League Players (so the carrot dangles), 18 Spots for Academy List.
- Align AFL Clubs with Under 18 and State League Clubs for purpose of filling Academy List (i.e. Port have WWT,NA,CD,WA and Crows have NWD,GL,SA,ST).
- Academy List to be Under 20 (i.e. the 2 years after U18 football).
- Essentially like an Apprenticeship and once they turn 21 they either get upgraded to AFL Senior List or continue on with State League Club, who they would continue to play with if they don't get selected in AFL Reserves side.

I think this would benefit everyone, at least more so than the current situation.

Save money by scrapping NEAFL and return to State Leagues. Scrap Foxtel Cup and potentially transfer sponsorship to Reserves Comp. AFL would be investing in football at all levels if done properly.
by Aerie
Wed May 14, 2014 7:47 pm
 
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Re: The 2014 season no AFL in the SANFL whinge thread

Wedgie, you cant blame The power or The Crows, they both want whats best for their club, and if the dumb arses that gave it to them agreed to it, how can you blame them. The only thing that annoys me is when their supporters are quetioned about the unfair advantage granted to them, they argue as if there is no advantage. What drugs are they on to even deny the fact their is an enormous advantage. Power supporters should just accept that where handed a gift but why should they give it back, if it was my team I would be over the moon.
The Power went about it the smart way while the Crows lied and conived their way in and in the process severely hurt their own brand amongst the most loyal footy fans around. I cheered for them live at the 97 GF and all of the 93 finals. Never again, my most hated club in the world.
The Power on the other hand went up a couple of notches in my book and I wish them well.
Most of their supporters will always be dimwits, inbreeding will do that but they're harmless.

The Power lied and connived their way as well.

- Pulling players from SANFL clubs for finals for many years.
- Transferring "disgruntled" players to the Magpies in more recent years.
- Saying when the merger happened that it would only be off-field and the Magpies wouldn't be a Reserves side.

Then they held out for the best deal for their Reserves team and came up trumps. They let the Crows be the bad guys.

They have been doing everything right off-field in the last couple of years.

Good for them. Still gives me the shits and does no favours for the SANFL as a competition. It would have been as simple as the SANFL clubs demanding the top up list was under 21 and saying Power players weren't welcome to play for SANFL clubs if the Power chose not to go ahead with the Reserves.

The SANFL does not need the Magpies. The Power can be as strong as they like in the AFL, provided they're not a drain on SA Football. I quite enjoy watching their AFL team play.
by Aerie
Thu May 15, 2014 7:24 pm
 
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Re: The 2014 season no AFL in the SANFL whinge thread

To Dols, booney. kikinit

This is a serious question, so don’t take it as a dig but with the following, do you see the advantage gifted to you or would you consider having the below all part and parcel
Full Time Coaches, Fitness coach touted as one of the best in the world, Dieticians, Sports Physiologists, Fitness personnel, Doctors and Physios, Massage therapist , player e welfare managers, Million dollar facilities, Million dollar Fitness Facilities, recovery facilities, Million dollar Medical Facilities.
Full Time Professional AFL players averaging around 15 players per game with a combined salary of $2-$3 million dollars
Yes the crows have all of the above and I don’t give a shit as my club doesn’t nor does 7 other SANFL clubs.
I am not whinging because The Power is on Top I dislike the crows with a passion as well for playing in a comp and having these benefits and advantages.
And the thing that pisses every one of the most is you will not acknowledge the advantage given to your team.
You were granted an AFL licence, and good onya, but don’t use the resources of being given that and think you have no advantage or been given any advantage over your opposition. Most of the other items apart from the Salary cap could be taken that the club has worked to get those advantages. But unfortunately the Salary Cap can’t be.
Even Collingwood in the AFL have advantages over the comp in terms of $, but funnily enough a new word has entered the equation Equalisation, where the AFL has said we can’t have a team with that much financial clout and off field advantages although they have the same salary cap as the rest of the comp.
So the Brains trust at the AFL has seen how having a team with more resources will destroy their comp but for some reason you can’t see how it will destroy the SANFL

And don't forget the disadvantages the SANFL clubs have, chiefly the possibility of losing their best players (young or mature) in the draft, including having these players being chosen by the Crows or Power to play against them.

It is a credit that the SANFL clubs can and do compete and a disgrace that the Port Magpies have been able to add to their SANFL list with experienced top up players from outside their recruiting zone. Biemans, Bruggemann, Gordon, Krakouer, Slattery and Venter should all be told to find another club immediately and replaced with Under 21's from the Port Magpies zone. I would be willing to make an exception for Summerton - just because he is the only fair dinkum mature player for the Magpies who bleeds black and white, even though his club has been kicked out in favour of big brother. He shows the qualities you want to see in an SANFL player.

You would find Port Reserves would come back to the pack somewhat if they had to replace 3 genuine SANFL standard players (Bruggemann, Slattery, Biemans) with developing players from within their zone. The SANFL should have the balls to enforce this at the end of Round 9 before this season turns in to an absolute farce.
by Aerie
Sun May 18, 2014 11:38 am
 
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Re: What is you interest so far in the SANFL competition in

No change in interest. Just resentment!
by Aerie
Mon May 19, 2014 2:10 pm
 
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Re: Foxtel Cup 2014

Why wouldnt have they played the Norwood game next Tuesday after the weekend off?

If I was Norwood, I would rather the extra week rest before the next SANFL game than more rest before a Foxtel Cup game.

The Foxtel Cup is a nice concept in theory, but in reality there are bigger fish to fry and it is just a disruption to the season.

West only took it seriously last year because they were in a financial mess thanks to their CEO and needed the money. It potentially cost them a chance at a Premiership.

I agree, a pre-season Foxtel Cup would be better and would be the only format where the clubs that put their State League first could take it semi-seriously.
by Aerie
Wed May 28, 2014 12:23 pm
 
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Re: Grade Cricket

Thanks Willo.

Wouldn't be surprised if there are a couple of mergers, but will be a stretch to get it down to 10 teams, even though that number would be ideal IMO. Would have thought Northern Districts cover Gawler well enough.

Junior idea has merit, as does the D Grade becoming U19's, as does reducing the amount of cricket played via eradicating the one day comp.

Clubs would gladly accept SACA doing pitch prep and spend more on coaching I'd imagine.

The key is getting the number of clubs down to 10 and that will be bloody hard!
by Aerie
Tue May 27, 2014 11:12 pm
 
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Re: Grade Cricket

The simplest change that would have the biggest effect would be to have no Sunday cricket. I reckon you'd find players staying in the game longer and therefore the standard would improve. Plus clubs could make more money by having more people back at the club at the same time - not to mention less to do for volunteers/scorers/umpires etc.

An Under 18 or 19 would also be a good idea to transition players through.

Keep Sundays for Premier League - which has a role to play.
by Aerie
Thu May 29, 2014 9:49 pm
 
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Re: 2014 State Game - SANFL v VFL @ Port Melbourne (Sat 31/5

I wonder which state reps Godden will coax to the Eagles next season?

Any good ones from Glenelg in there? Any one from Glenelg in there?

For those whinging about everything - that guernsey has been used for State representative sides for over 40 years, including Amateur League.

I haven't been a huge fan of the concept in the past, but the commitment from the players to this guernsey has always been of the highest standard and it is a reward for the players who put in huge efforts week in week out and I enjoy watching this game now. Considering the big names our competition has lost in the past few years, it is a good effort to still put out a quality team that has beaten all the other State Leagues.

That group of players and coaching staff did SA proud yesterday. Well done to them.
by Aerie
Sun Jun 01, 2014 9:20 am
 
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Re: Grade Cricket

The issue with Sunday cricket is the predominately amateur players not having a life during cricket season. Add One day/T20/PL/SatSun/2nd11 the players have 0 weekends. Some may say, ‘if they are serious about their cricket and want to play FC then they shouldn’t care’, yes that’s true, but realistically there are only 15 blokes with a genuine shot at playing FC.

Life isn't meant to be easy....

They are meant to be the cricket equivalent of the SANFL and first class cricket is the 'state' games that you represent your state league....


Drop the one dayers back to 40 overs per side and a knockout format. 20/20 knockout with maybe including an ATCA XI.

Except they're still paying to play instead of getting paid like SANFL players do.

4 PL teams full of players striving for a contract gives 44 of the best (less existing contracted players when they are available) a genuine chance to win a contract and they can play PL on Sundays and hopefully get paid for it. All under SACA control. That would be more the equivalent to SANFL.

Grade Cricket on Saturdays only should keep more experience in the competition. Especially those who now drop out as soon as they start a family or those that have played State Junior Cricket every weekend summer day for 10 years and are burnt out and go to turf or give up all together. If some of these stayed in the system, they may actually click by the age of 27 or 28 and possibly contribute at the top level for a number of years and in the meantime make Grade Cricket stronger for being there.

Grade Cricket should get really good at being the best 2-day, genuine club cricket competition in the State and make potential stars in the making play against hardened cricketers week in week out to see what they're made of. Then play against their peers on a fair amount of Sundays under the watchful eye of SACA coaches in a variety of formats. Plus utilise mid-week for PL T20.

I'm certainly not saying my opinion is absolutely right. I may be off the mark completely, but they are just my thoughts.

Will be interesting to see the Report when it is made available and interesting to see which way it ends up going. No doubt there will be plenty of differing opinions within each club, let alone throughout the clubs and up to the top at SACA. I do think something has to change though to keep/get Grade Cricket strong and relevant.
by Aerie
Mon Jun 02, 2014 2:22 pm
 
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Re: Round 9 - Eagles v Adelaide - POST MATCH

What a splendid day for a good ole thrashing, special thanks to sellout Slaven for the game we had to have!
No atmosphere whats so ever and frankly a fairly piss poor crowd ..... SANFL clubs don't make any money if most people are watching on tv ffs.

It was a bigger crowd than normal, but the atmosphere was non-existent. A few polite claps when the Crows kicked a goal.Even when they kicked a goal in the last that made it impossible for them to lose, there was nothing. Woodville Oval isn't the best atmosphere at the best of times, but with that crowd yesterday it was really quiet.

I had my 3yo with me and usually go to the south-eastern or south-western hills with her so she can run around. Normally there are about 10 other people down those ends and she has run of the hills - but yesterday there were heaps of people with the young kids - mainly in Crows guernseys. There were also more groups of teens together watching - something that has vanished from SANFL footy in the last few years. From that point, I guess it is good for the SANFL competition, but can't ever see how they'll convert them to follow the Eagles. Especially when they get thrashed like that.

At the end of the day, people with old-fashioned views like me, probably need to get over it or go do something else!
by Aerie
Sun Jun 08, 2014 9:32 am
 
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Re: Reallocation of boundaries

The writing was on the wall when Slaven lead the charge for AFL teams to come in to the competition. This scenario should have been dealt with when we voted yes. i.e. We'll vote yes, but you need to guarantee us Henley Beach when the zones are redistributed.

My biggest concern over the entry of the two AFL clubs, which I mentioned on that "Info night", was the Eagles losing Henley Beach and gaining Port Adelaide territory. Who in Port Adelaide is going to support another SANFL club, with both Port Power in the AFL and Port Power Reserves still playing in the SANFL?

It will be a massive loss for the Eagles. Thebarton was lost at the last rezoning two years ago and if this area is lost it is essentially Woodville/Port Adelaide.

Eagles should give up everything east of South Road, everything north of Torrens Road and gain everything south-west of Port Road and the bit of land between the coast and the river up to Outer Harbour. Even give up everything south of the River Torrens if need be.
by Aerie
Sun Jun 08, 2014 9:21 pm
 
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Re: The 2014 season no AFL in the SANFL whinge thread

I did start writing this in the Sturt vs Port thread, but quickly realised it was a big whinge...

Another game decided by the ridiculous advantages Port have been given with the top ups. How can Nathan Krakouer be allowed to play as a top up. Age 26, 2 AFL clubs, not a Port junior.

Sturt did well. I was hoping for a win for them. Unfortunately it is looking more and more likely that the Power Reserves will be one of the Grand Finalists this year. You could have hid the mess under the carpet, for this season at least, if Port and Adelaide were mid-table or below, but season 2014 (and beyond if they don't change it) will have a massive asterisk next to it as a wasted season because winning or losing against the AFL clubs means absolutely nothing.

This is worse than Lance Armstrong and the drugs in Le Tour de France. At least the majority of riders were on the same thing back then. This SANFL season has been recommended and ratified by the SANFL Commission and its League Directors.

I will admit I was very wrong in giving this a go and LPH, Centurion, smac, whufc and co were spot on from the start. It doesn't feel right going to the football any more.

I don't care about Channel 7. I don't care about high priced recruits. I don't care about being the 2nd best competition. I don't care about the full time staff behind the scenes. I care about a level playing field and my team competing in a competition with integrity. There is simply no integrity while AFL Reserves teams are competing in the SANFL.

I think it was premature writing the SANFL off as what it was and extremely incompetent by those who made the decision to ignore/dismiss the guiding principles when coming to the decision to allow the change.
by Aerie
Sun Jun 29, 2014 1:03 pm
 
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Re: Well played North supporters

Well said Mickan and West Adelaide! More proof that the sook threads on here represent a parallel universe.

Obviously we are in the minority - but put yourself in the shoes of a supporter who sees their SANFL team the same way an AFL supporter sees their AFL team.

Now imagine that next season the AFL are bringing in two new teams to "lift the standard of the competition and create more interest".

One team will be known as Victoria and wear the traditional Big V - playing out of the MCG. What a great history they have.

The other team will be known as the Allies and will only play away games. They are the team for all Australians.

These two teams get to pick 24 players each, alternatively in a draft so it is fair for both of them, from any of the AFL teams at the end of season 2014, in preparation for 2015.

Obviously there will be injuries, so they will need some top up players.

The Big V will choose their 15 players, but will only be able to pay them $5,000 per game. Except for one player over 28 who they can pay as much as they like.

The Allies will get given the worst rookies in the land from AFL clubs to do with as they please. They will also only be able to be paid $5,000 per game, except for one player over 28 who they can pay as much as they like.

Would AFL supporters have a problem with that?

Now going back to being an SANFL supporter who sees their SANFL team the same way an AFL supporter sees their AFL team. We have been able to put up with plenty of changes to the competition over the last 24 years - including a drop in general public interest and coverage. We have seen AFL listed players play most of the season for our team and then pull out of finals because the "season is too long" - whether they were original home grown or otherwise. We have seen our best players get drafted to the AFL at the end of a season, never to see them again. All of that was accepted as we knew the SANFL had a place and could not compete with the attraction of the AFL.

The changes in 2014 to the SANFL are the straw that has broken the camels back.

I want to watch my Eagles every weekend because it is something I have done since my Dad took me to games in a pusher. However, I don't want to watch an unfair competition. The SANFL is clearly an unfair competition. If that is the way they want to go, for the "good of football" overall, then expect friends and family in the crowd but don't expect supporters who are there because they have that connection that a person has with their sporting team, because that connection will be cut off knowing what they are watching isn't true or genuine.

Unless the Crows or Power Reserves have added an enormous amount to the bottom line of SANFL clubs and the SANFL through them competing, business wise, the SANFL needs to cut them immediately if they want to be an entity. Otherwise the whole competition is purely a pathway at the expense of about 40 fringe AFL players and their two AFL clubs. There are still ways the SANFL can be a pathway and still be a genuine, successful competition.

That is why those players were abused, Taylor Walker. It was nothing personal. When people can see and feel something that they hold dear to them being taken away unjustly they will react in different ways. It might not be right, but you can understand. The administration of the SANFL and its clubs need to smarten up quick smart, because once it is completely broken, it is completely broken. That could well be Grand Final Day this season and it may already be too late.
by Aerie
Thu Jul 03, 2014 12:56 pm
 
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Re: Round 12 - Glenelg v Eagles @ Gliderol (Sun 6/7)

dedja wrote:no need to stress ... you could field a team of Oompa Loompas and still manage a 10 goal win.


If we were going to field a team of Oompa Loompas, Goldsworthy would be in, alongside Poole, Boyd, McGregor, Lloyd etc. Small is the new ginger at Oval Ave.
by Aerie
Thu Jul 03, 2014 7:38 pm
 
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Re: Average and median crowd figures to Round 8

One crowd raising thing they didn't do this year is some SANFL games at Adelaide Oval, besides ANZAC Day. Surely 3 or 4 games would have been worth trialling on a Friday night?
by Aerie
Mon Jul 14, 2014 8:00 pm
 
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Re: Channel 7 announced by SANFL as preferred telecast partn

Give the ABC $1,000,000 and they'd probably do it!
by Aerie
Sat Jul 19, 2014 1:00 am
 
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Re: The 2014 season no AFL in the SANFL whinge thread

Refreshing to hear Graham Cornes views on the Adelaide Oval deal with the Crows and Power this afternoon on the radio. Essentially saying he is sick of hearing Port and Adelaide say they are the ones putting on the big show so they should get more money when it is really the new stadium that is drawing the crowds and that stadium is the SANFL's for 6 months of the year.
by Aerie
Fri Jul 18, 2014 10:05 pm
 
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Re: Grade Cricket

Season starts Oct 18 with a one-dayer and that will be the only clash with Premier League for the season. Preliminary rounds of the One Day comp morphed in to regular season matches which is a good move. Just the three Sat/Sun matches (played by all Grades), plus One Day QF,SF,GF all played on Sunday if you qualify. Three preliminary rounds plus QF,SF and GF for the T20 competition, all played on Tuesday nights.

SACA have done well with the program. Season is 1 week shorter than last year and there are 4 less Sunday's of commitment needed. T20 competition becomes a bit more competitive than the 4 preliminary rounds plus final that they had last year.
by Aerie
Tue Jul 22, 2014 8:43 pm
 
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Re: Round 14 - Port v Adelaide @ Alberton Oval (Sat 26/7)

It is also disappointing that perfect opportunities for crowd drawing rounds like the last two weekends where the Crows only play late interstate on a Sunday afternoon and not at all on the other are not jammed full of enticing SANFL games.

Instead they give this game every opportunity to be a success. To prove a point I guess.

The SANFL spend all this money on Ch 7, they spend all this money on putting ads on the back of buses yet they waste opportunities to put their comp up on a pedestal. I guess fixturing what was a success (the Oct GF) to AFL Prelim Final weekend illustrated the need to satisfy AFL team needs over the good of the SANFL competition.
by Aerie
Sun Jul 27, 2014 9:44 am
 
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Re: The 2014 season no AFL in the SANFL whinge thread

A bit of an insight given during James Gowans speech at the Hall of Fame night about how he came to play SANFL. They did have a rookie contract at St Kilda for 2000, but only being paid $12k, they were better off coming to SA and playing SANFL, so they did. Every rookie listed Port and Crows player would be on more than the highest paid SANFL players these days. That is with an extra two AFL teams as well - i.e. it is easier to get on an AFL list now.

Not really a whinge or argument whether it is better now or then, but an example of why the SANFL is struggling to maintain its stance with AFL going from strength to strength and leaving the rest behind.

I'm sure both Gowans and many other very good SANFL players of the early to mid 2000's would be on AFL lists now if their careers began 15 years later.
by Aerie
Tue Jul 29, 2014 11:55 pm
 
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Re: Rd 15 - Eagles v Adelaide, Sun Aug 3 @ MTH Oval, Woodvil

I don't care how they do it and who it is against, the Eagles just have to win! Just do the simple things - loud voice, stick the tackles, attack the ball, run hard. Eagles probably have to win 3 out of 4 to finish top 3 - possibly all 4 - so a must win game.
by Aerie
Wed Jul 30, 2014 12:08 am
 
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Re: Israel/Hamas Conflict

This is my basic understanding.

Arabs and Jews did once live together fine in Palestine for a long time (many centuries without many conflicts).

Then Zionism emerged in late 19th century and the Jews wanted to make Israel their own state. Not necessarily those Jews that were already in Palestine. The Zionists looked upon Arabs pretty poorly and the Arabs resented that.

WWI came and by 1917 Britain desperately needed support, so facilitated a Jewish state in Palestine in order to get US and Russia onside, who were both heavily influenced by key Jewish players, as well as the finances that would come with it from the wealthy Jews.

After WWII and the break up of the British Empire, Palestine was divided up and a Jewish State, Israel, formed.

This was the nail in the coffin for the Arabs and they've been fighting ever since. Huge percentages of Arab population were murdered in the years after by Jews.

Palestine doesn't officially have a military, Hamas are the extremists who fight guerilla warfare. Israel, backed by US, have a full blown and powerful military.

You could say Israel are the bullies, but I bet if they stopped fighting the Jews currently occupying Israel would be dead meat.

Look at what the extreme Islam (ISIS) are doing in Syria and Iraq.

It's a lose/lose situation. You can blame religion and imperialism.

Glad we are in Australia! The world is fragile at the moment.
by Aerie
Fri Aug 01, 2014 6:16 pm
 
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Re: Port Rezoning

I concur with areaman and LPH. It is Woodville-Port Adelaide Eagles now. 2013 saw the loss of Thebarton to West. 2014 sees the loss of Henley/Grange to Glenelg and Flinders Park/Brompton to West. The yellow guernsey is there - they just need to change the shorts and socks to black or green.

Our Board pushed to have Adelaide and Port Adelaide Reserves in the competition, knowing the consequences.

My Great Grandpa arrived in Chief Street Brompton in 1920 and was involved with the club straight away, my Nanna and Poppa lived in Flinders Park and would only use blue and gold pegs on the clothes line, my Mum and Dad live in Henley Beach. At least after the merger the WWTFC still represented the traditional areas of West Torrens. There was still that connection.

I find it hard to relate to the club and the competition now. Half way through last year when the Reserves debate was going on, the enthusiasm dipped at what might be. The meaning of the competition has now gone, the passion has vacated the terraces and so now has the heartland of the club. No longer will my weekend calendar be filled with Eagles games. I'll keep my scarf and be one of those additions that swell the crowd during finals or turn up if it's a sunny day and I have nothing better to do.

The players do a great job and are much admired for the efforts they put in. Particularly in going up against well paid and well looked after professionals. It is a pity the administration of the SANFL and it's clubs has buggered it up. At least for me and a few others. I guess, from an admin perspective, you can't please them all.
by Aerie
Mon Aug 04, 2014 11:26 pm
 
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Re: The 2014 season no AFL in the SANFL whinge thread

There would almost always be a drop off when it turns crappy weather in winter, regardless of who is playing.

The numbers don't lie obviously, but it is definitely a different feel at the SANFL this year for me and a different atmosphere. Some games feel like the old times (last quarter vs Norwood at Woodville and the game against Sturt at Unley). The Crows games especially have a weird feeling. Plenty of people watching, but not a part of it.

There are different aspects of the SANFL that when all brought together make it a great "product". Some of those aspects have been taken away with the AFL Reserves entry and the zone change. Some have been taken away with the growth of the AFL competition in the last 5 or so years. Some have been taken away/added with the game style and governance of the game. Some of those aspects will always be there regardless of who plays in the competition. For me, I am finding out I need all of those aspects to want to buy a membership and season ticket and want to go every week.

This time in SANFL history isn't the first time significant aspects of the competition have changed or will change and people will drop off or add on and the competition and clubs will likely/hopefully go on. Just with different people.
by Aerie
Wed Aug 06, 2014 7:20 pm
 
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Re: Chris Davies departure

Shame on him.

He has been involved in changing the fabric of the competition and as a result, my club. Then jumping on board with the people this was all designed to feed.

He may be a good person and his intentions may have been good ones if you give him all the benefit of the doubt.

It doesn't change the fact he has played a role in the deconstructing of the SANFL as it was once known and jumped ship to the club that has principally torn the SANFL apart.
by Aerie
Fri Aug 08, 2014 9:55 am
 
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Re: Channel 7 announced by SANFL as preferred telecast partn

PhilH wrote:No worries if 7 are doing West v South that means LifeFM is at Alberton ... works for me.


You could hand out Eagles promo show bags at half time!
by Aerie
Sat Aug 09, 2014 8:53 pm
 
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Re: SANFL scheduling - First week of finals announced

Will be fantastic having a double header at Adelaide Oval late Saturday arvo/Saturday night. This decision they've got spot on.
by Aerie
Mon Aug 11, 2014 5:20 pm
 
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Re: SANFL scheduling - First week of finals announced

Will be fantastic having a double header at Adelaide Oval late Saturday arvo/Saturday night. This decision they've got spot on.

Don't mind the arvo\night timeslot definatly worth a crack but the date is a joke, no doubt the Crows will have a win and play finals type scenario on the Sunday so the media coverage is going to be next to nothing.

You would also think that the Crows last game will be a sell out based on the situation meaning I struggle to see many people doing the night before as well as the Sunday game

Yes, I would agree they should've left the finals as they were in terms of the GF being played long weekend in October. 36,000 would say so. But have selected the right timeslot and location given they've already booked that weekend in for finals.

Will be interesting to see what they do for 2nd week of finals given the fairly good chance Port will be playing a final at home on the Saturday and Crows may be playing another final on the Sunday.
by Aerie
Mon Aug 11, 2014 5:59 pm
 
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Re: Grade Cricket

I've always been of the opinion that if a player doesn't want to play at your club then you're better off letting them go. You just need to do your best to provide an environment that they want to play in and have success. It is certainly disappointing when a young promising player leaves after the amount of time that is invested in to them, but it creates opportunity for somebody else who really wants it.
by Aerie
Tue Aug 05, 2014 3:01 pm
 
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Re: SANFL scheduling - First week of finals announced

I don't get it. We still have only one main neutral stadium, sure for a while we had AO to play finals at but we always had heaps of double headers at FP. Yet this issue of two AFL finals in the one week was never approached by anyone as being an issue, so why now?
Because week 1 of AFL finals is the only week they play on Sunday.

Previously, starting SANFL finals a week after AFL finals , the SANFL had 4 Sundays in a row all to themselves.
by Aerie
Thu Aug 14, 2014 2:03 am
 
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Re: SANFL scheduling - First week of finals announced

Dogwatcher wrote:Only Aerie's not.


I am definitely a whinger!
by Aerie
Thu Aug 14, 2014 10:42 am
 
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Re: SANFL Law committee thoughts

•Holding the ball interpretation – if the ball is dislodged in a tackle and not handballed or kicked it is currently being called play on.

This rule/interpretation stinks.

If the ball is knocked out in a tackle, then play on. If the ball spills/dislodges/gets thrown when being tackled ping holding the ball if there was a prior opportunity!
by Aerie
Thu Aug 14, 2014 10:53 am
 
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