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Re: SAAFL Cup - A la FA Cup - Possible or not?

Could work in a 20 minute halves concept with multiple matches at venues.

e.g. 3 teams playing each other once (2 games) to get one winner to progress or 4 teams playing KO games to get one winner to progress.

You would need to have 3 games of 20 minute halves in the early rounds to turn 3 into 1 or 4 into 1 - the first round could therefore go from 24 to 8 (3 into 1) or 32 into 8 (4 into 1).

The next round could have 4 teams play KO games to go from 8 to 2 for a Grand Final and you could play that as a 4x20 or 2x20 format?

The comp could well be done by May if started in March/April so it wouldn't affect clubs in the H&A season.
by Benchwarmer
Tue Dec 16, 2014 12:52 am
 
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Re: Points System Is Crucifying Country Footy

Points can be policed by anyone and infringements can be quickly and easily noted and penalised.

Salary caps are easily circumvented which defeats the purpose (e.g. skimming of gate takings to pay cash in hand, third party payments, raffles being diverted to players without going through the books, keeping two sets of books - one for auditing and the other being the real books, etc.).

I have been in sports admin at a statewide level and know that you cannot catch people unless they are stupid as the above methods are sure fire ways to get away with it ... unless you are the Melbourne Storm LOL
by Benchwarmer
Mon Oct 26, 2015 5:01 pm
 
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WA Grassroots Footy Book

For anyone interested, I am going to be writing a book about my travels around the football leagues of Western Australia this season, which will start with a journey to the Lower South West FL on April 2 and will end at the WAFL Grand Final on September 25 after travelling more than 30,000 kilometres.

I will see approximately 70 matches (including more than 50 League matches and 17 Reserves matches) and will take in matches from Kununurra, Broome and Port Hedland in the north down to Albany, Ravensthorpe and Esperance in the south, as well as a cross-border hop for the WA Country team’s interstate clash against SA Country in Adelaide in July.

The journey will take in matches from all 30 of the state’s senior competitions over 40 match days, as well as three Carnivals (the Great Southern Colts Carnival and the Northern Regions Colts Carnival in mid-June and the Landmark Country Championships in July) and two State representative matches (Western Australia versus Tasmania in June and also the SA Country versus WA Country clash).

Each week, the A Grade match watched will be reviewed in a podcast available via Facebook.

To get around the state (and the SA Country v WA Country game), I need to fly on six occasions - Kununurra, Port Hedland, Newman, Adelaide and two flights to Broome – no mean feat for a self-confessed ‘nervous flyer’.

In a twist, I will play one-off matches for more than a dozen clubs during my travels from the start of the season until clearances close at the end of June.

Up to 12 matches will also be broadcast via a live audio broadcast during the season. The broadcast matches will be confirmed prior to the start of the season and the matches will be available for listening as podcasts on the WA FOOTY TRAVELLER Facebook page.

The book is intended to be released in 2017.

You can follow my travels via Facebook at the WA FOOTY TRAVELLER page
by Benchwarmer
Sat Mar 05, 2016 1:57 am
 
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Re: WA Grassroots Footy Book

Things are progressing well with the trips around W.A. and the book writing - the book will be just over 400 pages at this stage. I am still working
on a publisher at this stage but I am still hopeful of a March/April 2017 release for the book.

I initially hoped that I would see 70 games for the season, but that was an understatement as we are currently sitting on 77 games with seven weekends to go. By my reckoning, the W.A.F.L. Grand Final will be either game number 100 or 101 for the year.
by Benchwarmer
Fri Aug 12, 2016 10:04 am
 
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Re: Clearances - 2017

It's never been about numbers of players, it's the rest of the CFL failing to live up to their side of the TPPS bargain
Set a more reasonable figure and I'm sure everyone would of been on board.
Also no reason for the points system if there is a salary cap, has to be one or the other

Should be points and no cap.
Points can be regulated and be open and transparent with little cause for problems depending on how the points system is set up, but money finds itself in the intended direction in many varying ways outside of the club's ledgers via any number of parties.
by Benchwarmer
Tue Dec 06, 2016 11:32 am
 
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Re: WA Grassroots Footy Book

Well, I am happy to say that my book, Following The Bouncing Burley, is now being printed and should be ready for sale from Thursday June 29 at a cost of $20 each.

Following the Bouncing Burley will recount my travels around Western Australia, providing a background to the competitions and teams that I saw, reviewing each league match and also looking into some of the issues facing grassroots football, such as population decline, reserves football, player payments and player points systems. In addition, every league ladder and Grand Final result is included to provide a snapshot of the 2016 season.

Following the Bouncing Burley will be officially launched in early July and people coming to Perth for the Landmark Country Championships weekend will be able to purchase copies while they are in town.

Players and supporters of Southerners (Hopetoun), Swan Districts Womens, Newdegate, Dongara, Trinity Aquinas, Busselton Bombers and Peel Thunder will be able to reminisce about their 2016 Grand Final victories and all bar Trinity Aquinas have a full team picture with their premiership spoils.

I will also head back to some of my old clubs on Sunday afternoons during July and August to sell some copies at their home games. These visits will be posted on the WA FOOTY TRAVELLER Facebook and Twitter pages as soon as these matches are confirmed.

A second book, which will be a history of the current grassroots leagues and clubs in the state (both seniors and juniors), is expected to be released in mid-2018.


Email: football@frontiersportsmedia.com
Facebook: WA Footy Traveller
Twitter: @bouncingburley
by Benchwarmer
Mon Jun 19, 2017 7:49 pm
 
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Re: HFL Division 1 (Central)

It’s been said that several players are getting paid by a certain real estate agency in excess of the cap. These high profile recruits won’t be coming for a couple hundred buck a game either. Heard the other day from a former crows top up it could be getting looked into

If so, they may need to read the cautionary tale of Kybybolite and the penalties that were handed down today.
by Benchwarmer
Fri Feb 22, 2019 2:01 pm
 
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Re: Riverland Football Chatter

I agree with you, SuperFrank

Waikerie (premiers)
Renmark
Barmera Monash
Berri
North
Loxton

Leading Goalkicker: Daniel Nobes
by Benchwarmer
Mon Mar 11, 2019 3:44 pm
 
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Re: SANFL 2022 West End State Squad announced

Anyone know much about WA?
Very big state, capital is Perth.
Has some great vineyards in the south west near Margaret River.
Apparently marron is not just native to south west Australia but also Kangaroo Island.
Bon Scott is buried there in Fremantle.
Little Creatures originated there.
The America Cup resided there in there in the mid 80s for a while.
Bussleton has a bloody long jetty and a great market.
That's it from me.

... and our State selectors left out three of the top 10 players in the comp because the coach doesn't get on with them. If averaging 39 possessions this year (and a lazy 51 last weekend, albeit some were cheap 1-2's) can't get you in the team, what else can it be?

SA 40+
by Benchwarmer
Sat May 14, 2022 11:10 pm
 
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Re: Murray Valley Football League (formerly RIFL)

These footy and netball clubs are the heart and soul of rural communities. They need to be and should be better funded.

But no. Next we are going to have a magic round (which we pay for) so even more money to the top. The AFL has spent hundreds of millions on GWS and the Gold Coast and very little on clubs and leagues like these.


The AFL would rather you take your $10 entry money at the local footy and go to an AFL game playing $30+ per seat.
They would rather you spent the $30-odd on food and drink at a local game and spend $50+ on the same items at an AFL game instead (plus a couple of merchandise items).

Senior grassroots football is an inconvenience to the AFL. They have spent too much time admiring the American sporting system and rue all the missing millions they could be hoovering up from the community if nobody over the age of 21 was playing grassroots football. They seem to pine for just four tiers in each state - the AFL, an AFL reserves comp, the NAB league/SANFL Colts/WAFL Colts (Under 18) and the fourth being juniors - the current metro and country leagues to be only for players from Auskick up to Under 18 level.

The problem is the AFL doesn't seem to understand that a football/netball club is the heartbeat of a community for people from toddlers at the feet of mum or dad to the who-knows-how-old timekeeper who has done the same job for 45 years, missing only one match when his daughter foolishly scheduled her wedding for a Semi-Final.

And someone is not doing to drive from Murrayville or Renmark to Adelaide or Melbourne to watch an AFL team in the flesh every week ... but the trip to a RFL or MVFNL rival "to see us beat those buggers" means a whole lot more to them and their townsfolk.
by Benchwarmer
Wed Nov 16, 2022 5:29 pm
 
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Re: Concussion

I call BS - especially at senior level - it's very well documented that helmets do zero to stop concussion.

That said, Many junior comps in Victoria have a compulsory helmet rule.

If you normalise it from juniors, it doesn't become an issue

Mouthguards do more than helmets to prevent the severity of concussion. True story.

21 day new rule for SANFL downwards

still 12 days for AFL, as they have the qualified staff available to monitor 24/7 if needed


Bang on. It has been known since the 1980s that helmets won't solve the issue.

Concussion occurs when the brain hits the skull. Wearing a helmet in a collision will not stop that. For example, the many NFL players in America with CTE issues even though they have been wearing what is akin to motorcycle helmets for many decades. Cricketers such as Will Pucovski are subbed out of cricket matches due to concussion after being hit on the helmet, so even cricket helmets can't prevent concussion.

There is a quote from a video in the 1980s from the SANFL video Crashes & Clashes where a doctor said that helmets are only good for protecting against lacerations and little more.

Helmets are not the key to all this - they are just a revenue earner for companies that make them.

When a player wearing a helmet is involved in a collision, their head will still jerk back or be knocked in a certain direction ... and it will still cause a concussion.

The only way to avoid concussion is for all the players to roll around inside Zorb balls so they can't get involved in physical clashes, but the game would look bloody stupid too.
by Benchwarmer
Thu Mar 07, 2024 2:25 pm
 
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