Fair effort from Cica at 41 years of age.

Nice missed stumping there from test cricket's worst captain.

#droppaine

All this hype over NZ in Tests is just that. They haven’t got the stamina at Test level to maintain their intensity and their Test depth is poor.

I’ll say it again, when you win the toss anywhere in the World apart from when it’s a huge English or Kiwi green top then you need to bat first.
Correct. Astonishing that some test captains can't work that one out.

That's always been the rule.

Not sure why the bowler shouldn't get the credit - it was the batsman missing (or merely edging) the delivery which led to him being caught out of his ground, rather than a run out which doesn't have anything to do with the delivery.

Of course in the reverse situation, where the batsmen misses it and attempts to run a bye but he or his partner gets run out, it would make no sense for the bowler to get credit for a 'stumping' because it wasn't really his delivery that caused the dismissal.

It's for a good cause but the 'Dream Team' concept is a load of garbage. Have state v state or not at all.

Daisy if the blokes that post on this forum don't like Davey Warner's exploits, they sure as heck ain't gonna be impressed by yours.

Congrats mate, keep the runs coming.

Wedgie wrote:

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I assume the author of the above was drunk at the time.

There's one for 1993, so it was still being published then.

There should be 1 captain, 1 vice captain, that's it.

All other older players should set an example and act like leaders.

No need for a formal 'leadership group' IMO. You shouldn't need a title to demonstrate leadership and having a clearly defined leadership group is almost like saying that senior players not in it don't need to show leadership.

Kerin succeeds Olsen I see - not for the first time.

Red point posts while we're at it.

Armchair expert wrote:Our skills are awful

I close my eyes every time Dow gets it

Not been a good week for Dow...

daysofourlives wrote:All contracts are going to have to be declared null and void arent they?

You can't really unilaterally declare a contract void, hence the term contract.

gazzamagoo wrote:Will make for a stronger SANFL competition!

It probably would and I wouldn't have any problem with going back to the 1991-2013 model, but I'd also be happy with No AFL in the SANFL at all.

I think regardless of your stance on the AFL reserves gaining delight from the demise of something people covet is pretty ordinary behaviour.

Who the heck covets them?

Magpies crowds have halved since they became the reserves, while at the same time they've made three grand finals, in contrast to their missing the finals most of the time between 2000-2013.

I don't doubt your devotion Booney but you're in a very small group.

Anyway I seem to recall the SANFL had to talk them into keeping the Magpies when the Power franchise was set up. It's pretty clear the Power would be happy for an excuse to get rid of them. (Although I think our celebrations are premature, as much as I'd like it to be true.)

Also the quote of yours I highlighted is a straw man argument. The vast majority of us want to see the reserves gone. Apart from UKF, delight in potentially seeing the Magpies go is only because it'll mean no reserves (assuming the Ravens get the arse). And I think you know that.

Our hatred for the reserves infiltration runs many orders of magnitude deeper than our dislike of Port and I for one would have no problem with a standalone Magpies returning à la 1997-2013.

Agree with the above, except I'm not sure I want to see the salary cap reduced further.

topshelf wrote:The possibility of getting extra money from channel 7 to telecast games

Extra money?

I thought the SANFL paid them to show it.

I'm confused why Port would want a zone. Their recruitment comes via the draft.

In fairness, it's not the most disastrous camp the Crows have gone on.

I think there is a Ph.D. for someone smarter than me (cue Mal) in the demise of West Torrens. At the start of the decade West Torrens were one of the richest, if not the richest clubs in Australia. Their major benefactor was Ossie O'Grady, a former player and it is not unfair to say that he was the Allan Bond of the day. Under O'Grady's presidency, West Torrens were able to recruit triple Brownlow Medallist and Essendon premiership coach, Dick Reynolds to coach the team, they recruited young Essendon star, Bob Shearman, who had been best player for the "Dons" as they were then known, in the 1959 Grand Final, they outbid Carlton for young Wagga Wagga star, Geoff Kingston and outbid North Melbourne for then Hamilton, Victoria star, Tracey Braidwood. They also lured Neil Hawke back from Western Australia and after a long stand off from Port they managed to get a clearance for Hawke,. They helped get Lindsay Head the leasehold of the Cross Keys Hotel and Bob Shearman the leasehold of the Waverley Hotel.
Then there was the 1961 Credit Squeeze and Ossie O'Grady's company, Reid Murray, collapsed, one of the biggest if not the biggest corporate collapses in history. It was purported to be worth 66,000,000 pounds at the time which I think equates to over $2 billion in today's money. Not only did Ossie lose his fortune, but so did a lot of other West Torrens backers. Ossie remained as President but was challenged by Geoff Hallett of Hallett's bricks at the end of 1964. Shearman, in particular, backed O'Grady who won but then Shearman left the club days later. Torrens struggled for money for the next 25 years until their merger.
Without going into too much detail I think there were several factors at play in Torrens' decline from the 60s onwards:
1. Their sugar daddy running out of money as RIG has mentioned
2. Declining on-field performances leading to more declining on-field performances. Despite having a number of top players in the second half of the 50s and the 60s, and finishing top in '63, people forget the Torrens never won a final after 1954. Maybe depth was the problem. But the losing culture had started to set in before the overall financial decline of the club. Although Torrens attracted massive crowds in the 60s when they were doing well, the lack of finals success surely had an impact on supporter numbers and in turn finances. In the mid-50s they possibly had more supporters than any club except Norwood and Port. Compare the number of finals Port and Norwood won over the next say 20 years to Torrens (zero).
3. Proportionately fewer Anglo-Australians in the West Torrens city area due to migration, making the player (and supporter) base a little thinner or at least meaning the club needed to work a bit harder to develop players. A slight reduction in the zone in '64 wouldn't have helped. Also, it happened later, but giving the north eastern suburbs zone to Norwood, just when it was starting to pay dividends, didn't help either.

Booney wrote:I wonder if they ever think

EFA

Bum Crack wrote:

Lightning McQueen wrote:Which countries have allegedly had the second wave?

I don't think we've had the first wave yet have we??

Which is why it's a good thing our state and federal governments took this seriously, unlike America, Brazil etc.

I'm worried if we don't get some Aussie stats up here soon someone is going to murder someone, and given its covid related, the government will probably bump our number to 5 and keep us in lockdown longer, so, in the interests of getting sport back sooner...

Deaths per 1m of population:

Belgium 806
Spain 580
UK 546
Italy 545
France 437
Sweden 409
Netherlands 342
Ireland 327
USA 304
Canada 176
Brazil 116
Germany 101
Russia 27
Greece 17 (this seems very low)
Singapore
Australia 4
New Zealand 4
You forgot Afghanistan, Albania, Algeria, Andorra, Angola, Antigua & Deps, Argentina, Armenia, Austria, Azerbaijan, Bahamas, Bahrain, Bangladesh, Barbados, Belarus, Belize, Benin, Bhutan, Bolivia, Bosnia Herzegovina, Botswana, Brunei, Bulgaria, Burkina, Burundi, Cambodia, Cameroon, Cape Verde, Central African Rep, Chad, Chile, China, Colombia, Comoros, Congo, Congo {Democratic Rep}, Costa Rica, Croatia, Cuba, Cyprus, Czech Republic, Denmark, Djibouti, Dominica, Dominican Republic, East Timor, Ecuador, Egypt, El Salvador, Equatorial Guinea, Eritrea, Estonia, Ethiopia, Fiji, Finland, Gabon, Gambia, Georgia, Ghana, Grenada, Guatemala, Guinea, Guinea-Bissau, Guyana, Haiti, Honduras, Hungary, Iceland, India, Indonesia, Iran, Iraq, Israel, Ivory Coast, Jamaica, Japan, Jordan, Kazakhstan, Kenya, Kiribati, Korea North, Korea South, Kosovo, Kuwait, Kyrgyzstan, Laos, Latvia, Lebanon, Lesotho, Liberia, Libya, Liechtenstein, Lithuania, Luxembourg, Macedonia, Madagascar, Malawi, Malaysia, Maldives, Mali, Malta, Marshall Islands, Mauritania, Mauritius, Mexico, Micronesia, Moldova, Monaco, Mongolia, Montenegro, Morocco, Mozambique, Myanmar, {Burma}, Namibia, Nauru, Nepal, Nicaragua, Niger, Nigeria, Norway, Oman, Pakistan, Palau, Panama, Papua New Guinea, Paraguay, Peru, Philippines, Poland, Portugal, Qatar, Romania, Rwanda, St Kitts & Nevis, St Lucia, Saint Vincent & the Grenadines, Samoa, San Marino, Sao Tome & Principe, Saudi Arabia, Senegal, Serbia, Seychelles, Sierra Leone, Slovakia, Slovenia, Solomon Islands, Somalia, South Africa, South Sudan, Sri Lanka, Sudan, Suriname, Swaziland, Switzerland, Syria, Taiwan, Tajikistan, Tanzania, Thailand, Togo, Tonga, Trinidad & Tobago, Tunisia, Turkey, Turkmenistan, Tuvalu, Uganda, Ukraine, United Arab Emirates, Uruguay, Uzbekistan, Vanuatu, Vatican City, Venezuela, Vietnam, Yemen, Zambia, and Zimbabwe.

So you understand why I didn’t list the hundred or so countries in my post now before including Australia, or is that point lost on you? I for one found your post quite informative CM.

Q and Booney (and I think some others) have also put up some useful stats over the last couple of months. It's actually been a good, quick way to keep updated with the situation in SA, Australia and the world over the last couple of months, without even making the minimal effort of using Mr. Google, so thanks to all those folks.

Eagles2014 wrote:Saw a Cricket Australia program showing a T20 vs India at Adelaide Oval on Oct 17. If this is correct, that would be the SANFL Grand Final day/ weekend, would make it interesting what would happen!

#NoICCintheSANFL

The game is in more trouble than i thought.
72 points, 2 best teams in the comp.
I plead with the AFL to make drastic changes, its horrible to watch.
This is as good a year as any to experiment
BS. The reason the game is the way it is is because they make to many changes. Good pressure footy, with a shortened game. Leave the game alone Or even better, switch the rules back to what they were like in the 80s and 90s.

[quote="Gozu"]We've always re-written history otherwise Rolf Harris and Jimmy Savile would still be revered.
That's because they were found guilty of serious crimes, though.

Slavery isn't?
Slavery wasn't illegal.
The statues are a reminder of the history of America, for better or worse. I don't care if they are eventually removed, just not torn down by anarchists .
why not??[/quote]This is a difficult one - and I'm not opposed to the statue in Bristol being removed - but I would prefer to see it removed by the council or appropriate authority according to law. We head down a slippery slope when angry mobs start tearing down statues.

Also, as has been pointed out, virtually everybody who existed before the twentieth century had views on many subjects that would be considered utterly appalling today. And that includes even revered figures.

Most of the early American presidents were slave owners. All Australian prime ministers up to the 60s or 70s supported the White Australia Policy. Basically every public figure before WWII was opposed to homosexuality being legal. Etc. Etc.

Enjoy my rant peoples, =D>

Oh we do, trust me. Keep them coming.

What do you think about fluoridation?


Thanks mate can you string more than two lines to this debate. :lol:

Fair enough - perhaps this is more to your taste:



LOL LOL LOL

WOKE LEFTY SOCIALIST NUTTERS are fake news !!!

DEFLECTOR DEFLECTOR

I am not the only BED WETTER

I only wet the bed because of the REDS UNDER THE BED !!

FAARKEN LEFTY MARXIST ANTIFA SNOWFLAKES can’t inject corona-man Woo Hoo flu or 5G into me if I’ve got my tin foil hat on

LOL LOL LOL

The lefty commie BEDWETTERS don’t scare me with their climate change CRAP FAARKEN lefty greens socialist alliance MOON UNITS. The moon landing was a conspiracy !!

Anyway we all know the lefties have infiltrated the schools and are teaching the kiddies their MARXIST IDEOLOGY. Read the alternative websites not the MSM !! Alternative reality is more real than these socialist left wing NUTJOBS !! LOL LOL The truth is out there SIMPLES

FAARK FAARK FAAAARRRRRK


Please note: Above is an attempt at satire. I do not actually hold these opinions.

Having it as a rental property opens it up to CGT - whether you're paying/claiming interest doesn't matter.

There are some exceptions to CGT - e.g. you can treat a property you've moved out of as your 'main residence', even if you live elsewhere, for up to 6 years if it's used to produce income.

Of course, this means that the new property you're living in may be subject to CGT, as you can't use the 'main residence' exception for two houses at once, except while you're moving.

Still, if you're earning rental $ from your old house, it might be worth copping a small CGT liability.

The ATO has information on its website about all the different scenarios on owning two houses at once.

I'm not sure if I can see Walker succeeding in the media. Makes Ricciuto sound like a rocket scientist.

Apachebulldog wrote:My opinion is Melbourne is now reaping the benefits of the BLM protest two odd weeks ago.

Wait, I thought 'Wu Hu Flu' was all a big con job cooked up by socialist Guardianista bedwetters?

Agreed. They should have programmed the Essendon-Melbourne match tonight, then this weekend's Essendon-Carlton match could be played on Monday night, then the following round as scheduled.

It's clear now that the AFL have no interest in a rolling fixture.

DOC wrote:Will PSEUDO still do a pure SANFL ladder?

South W 1
Central W 0

Jim05 wrote:Club CEO’s, Presidents and Directors banned from attending football in Victoria now.
Bad luck Ed

Commentary box change for Collingwood v Essendon:
IN - E. McGuire

I think there'd be few SANFL followers who didn't know Ernie or admire his passion for his football club. He was a very friendly bloke, especially if you were an Eagles supporter!

I sometimes used to see him in the Woodville area during the week - often wearing Eagles or WDCC colours.

Folks like Ernie are the heart and soul of local footy clubs. I'm sure he will be missed by many.

Heard last night Port only took 32 up to the GC, must have missed this, is there a list of those they didnt take? Boon?


Those who travelled :

1. Tom Jonas
2. Sam Powell-Pepper
3. Ryan Burton
4. Todd Marshall
5. Dan Houston
6. Steven Motlop
7. Brad Ebert
8. Hamish Hartlett
9. Robbie Gray
10. Travis Boak
11. Tom Rockliff
12. Trent McKenzie
14. Miles Bergman
15. Karl Amon
16. Ollie Wines
17. Tom Clurey
18. Zak Butters
19. Mitch Georgiades
20. Connor Rozee
21. Xavier Duursma
22. Charlie Dixon
23. Jack Watts
24. Kane Farrell
26. Riley Bonner
29. Scott Lycett
32. Sam Mayes
33. Darcy Byrne-Jones
34. Dylan Williams
38. Peter Ladhams
39. Justin Westhoff
40. Jarrod Lienert
44. Jackson Mead
50. Cam Sutcliffe

Left behind :

Buzza, Hayes, Garner, Drew, Atley, Burgoyne, Woodcock, Patmore, Grundy, Frederick, Cox, Pasini.

I hear Port are looking to get Ambrose over from the Bombers to work closely with Garner and Marshall. Sounds like a formidable combination.

Good thing they don't play AFL games at the WACA anymore.

That's what i figure.

Car situation isnt ideal. Her choice is either a Kluger tank or a corolla manual...

corolla manuals do exist, but to say that they are thin on the ground is an understatement...

Yeah I've got one!
Those are the two cars we own for her to learn in is what I meant I would definitely start with the manual.

First lesson would be finding friction point and learning to drive at 1 km/h, without stalling, stopping or speeding up.

The lesson is control.

If they can learn how to control the car at the slowest of speeds - counterintuitively, the hardest thing in a manual - they can control it at higher speeds.

I wouldn't start with an auto because it's almost too easy - thus a false sense of control might be experienced by the learner.

Lightning McQueen wrote:Sometimes at work when someone holds a webex meeting in our boardroom it uses up our bandwidth and no one else can access SA Footy, it's friggin crap.

EFA

This is the experts opinion/statements

The WU HU FLU will be around for 3 to 4 years.

It mutates in each person differently

1 in 100 will die.

They must make this stuff up ??

Confirmed cases in Aust. 10,495
Recovered 7,928
Deaths 111 = ~1 in 100.

My source is the MSM though so those figures were probably made up by loony lefty greeny bedwetters.

Totally agree with your analysis Psyber we live in an era of being bombarded with misinformation from all different people so who do we believe ???

It's not about 'belief', it's about considering the evidence.

I'd probably start with the overwhelming consensus of qualified doctors, virologists, public health administrators and other experts who've studied this.

Of course, you should also consider any evidence provided by uninformed alien anal probe crackpots uploaded onto 'alternative websites' from their parents' basements.

I emphasise 'any evidence provided' by said crackpots.

Unfortunately it seemed inevitable the West Indies would disappoint.

Never send the opposition in to bat when you win the toss.

26,000,000 Population
145 Deaths


Work out the percentage very very low.

Question for you: Why do you think the percentage is so low?


Cos Comrade DANDEMIC has a fantastic plan and strategy in Victoria :lol: :lol: :lol:

Pretty typical contribution to this thread from you - you make a misleading statement, someone asks you a serious question in response, and then instead of answering it you side-step the question with some sarcastic or juvenile remark.

I agree with your later post that Andrews has seriously screwed up. I'm surprised that you're critical of him at all though given you think the whole thing is a big hoax. Surely if it's all nonsense, the Premier should be removing all restrictions so life and the economy can get back to normal?

I'll try one more time. Why do you think only approx. 150 Australian have died of COVID-19 so far?

Geezus, this thread has gotten ugly.

I would've thought that their selfish and stupid actions were the talking point rather then their ethnicity.

daysofourlives wrote:Who wouldve thought the human immune system would fight off a virus

700,000 dead bodies (and counting) couldn't.

Brett wrote:

RB wrote:

Brett wrote:5 surving with SANFL existence, I have heard the same has has Govt assistance. But you know best .

In English, thanks

How couldn't you understand that ? lol

Because it doesn't make sense ? lol

Fair enough mate. I didn't pick that bit up

Dan has just put forward that they are trying to extend the State of Emergency for an extra 12 months through parliament and that the his government has said there is no way the GF can be in Melbourne this year and has requested it be moved interstate
There will be riots in the streets if he tries to get that through...

Can I ask why, it doesn't mean you will be in lockdown until then.

Why? Because people are stupid and those calling him a dictator are scaring many people into thinking he actually is. I suspect that many of those calling Andrews a dictator have never lived in a dictatorship.

At any rate, the Victorian Parliament would have to approve the extension of the State of Emergency for it to take effect, and there's no indication that they will.

The Democrats are no longer the true Democrats of yesteryear they have been hijacked by the radical left Marxists.

This is probably the most insane thing you've said on this forum - and that is seriously saying something.

The Democratic Party is not remotely left wing. Comparing it to Australian political parties, its economic and social policies are most similar to that of the Liberal Party. The Democrats are far more right wing than the Australian Labor Party, whom no serious commentator would accuse of being radical or Marxist.

The reason AOC and Bernie Sanders (technically an independent, albeit one who ran for the Democrat nomination) receive so much attention is because they are a long way from the vast majority of the party.

If the Democrats in America appear even remotely left wing, it's because of the way the Republicans have degenerated in the last 50 years from being a traditional conservative party to being a lunatic asylum for paranoid reactionaries to whom truth and reality are of no concern.

Of course the Democrats will appear left wing when up against the Republican Party. But there are fewer greater proponents of capitalism than the Democratic caucas and nothing Biden is proposing is even remotely radical by any terrestrial standards.

LOL LOL LOL LOL

I literally named two of those politicians in my post.

And you've illustrated my point - those 5 get so much media attention precisely because they are so different to the other 274 Democrat representatives and senators.

You may have noticed that those folks barely got any time during the convention - Bernie got one speech due to his winning a primary, and AOC was only given two minutes. That's because they don't represent the mainstream of the party.

The idea that Joe Biden is a puppet to the 5 you've mentioned (radicals is a bit over-the-top by the way - read their policies) is ludicrous. Biden won the nomination, not Sanders. Like most Democrats, Biden is, if anything, a puppet to big business and free market economics - 36 years of Senate voting proves that.

Also, would you care to tell us what radical policies Biden is proposing?

The most major policy issue of the Obama/Biden era was probably universal healthcare. Is this a radical policy? It was adopted in Australia in 1984, so given the Liberal Party have been in office for 18 years since that point, and haven't even considered removing it, I guess they're also Marxist radicals.

I don't usually enter the politics forum - I don't hold strong views myself on these matters - but I do value truth and reality, and the idea that the US Democratics/Joe Biden are left-wing radicals is utterly ridiculous, even by your outlandish standards.

LOL LOL LOL LOL