mighty_tiger_79 wrote:That's impressive, given Xmas is 11 months away

Reading between the lines, I'd say it means they've written off 2017 already and they've decided to build for 2018.

Now go build pyramids for a thousand years and worship cats until we come back.

This is my favourite forum and note that no one has posted for a while where previously was new posts daily so i thought i would just post anyway.

I love sanfl and hate afl footy -- love all football player of any grade
Completely agree Oldfella.
I think that the existence of the AFL reserves in our competition has killed off the passion for the majority of those that used to post throughout the summer. I now find that ironically, when posters talk about this thing that has largely killed off discussion on this forum, there are people who will post basically to yell them to shut up and move on! So you have to be careful not to disturb the silence at times.

Ah, how can a moment of such apparent clarity be so suddenly flushed down the crapper?
Some people you just can't reach!

Did Australia become Australia on January 26th?
Did a new group of people who eventually displaced Indigenous culture (as well as many other worse sins) arrive on January 26th?
The answers to those two questions is enough to convince me that if the indigenous peoples would like it changed, then it should be changed.

...and one more thing. Does anyone apart from me feel ripped off that Federation day is New Year's day? Shouldn't we be getting an automatic holiday on January 2nd to make up for it?

Have to agree with the last comments by Mr Chigwidden there. Glenelg managed almost 3,000 members last year and finished bottom or near bottom. If they actually made the 5 they would draw huge crowds, especially if the AFL reserves left the SANFL.

Wasn't that long ago that there was 10k+ watching glenelg V Sturt at the bay oval
I remember it.
I was in Japan at the time, but I got quite a buzz reading about it. I think Sturt were top and had dished out a few thumpings but were severely depreciated through injury and AFL call ups, and Glenelg were sitting about 2nd or 3rd. I think the Glenelg staff were caught completely unawares and due to the huge line up, some of the crowd couldn't enter the oval until the second quarter.
Glenelg are a sleeping giant. Crowd wise anyway.

Adelaide contributed $2.69 million to the SANFL so it could field a standalone team in the state-wide competition.

Still want them out of the competition?

Isn't it more like $400,000?
Have a look at their financial statement, they look to have made 2.69mil im contributions. Could be a combination of a few things.
What? The Crows talking bullshit?
Well I never! Next they'll be telling me the moon is not made of cheese!

Isn't that exactly what we are doing? Crows trying to paint their existence in the SANFL in such a beneficiary light that has turned out to be shaded in an unfortunate tint of horseshit.
Get them out of the SANFL and they can paint their turds red, gold and blue and you won't hear boo out of me about it. But I am not going to be thankful for a sum of money that was never delivered yet is supposed to be some sort of justification of them destroying what I love.

After hearing the pros and cons up to this stage, it seems to me that the coverage this year is tailored to the SANFL's current position. Damage has/is being done to the competition and as a few have noted, they are attempting to "staunch the bleeding" by marketing to the current supporter base. This stance clearly excludes those that were sitting on the fence, or were semi-interested, as Booney and others have noted. It will not win any new supporters. It makes me think of an old fat smoker going in for lung surgery every year or so, yet refuses to address the causes for the surgery, which would be to give up smoking and stop eating so much crap.
The fact that so many are accepting this proposition with such credibility is a sign of the doom we are beginning to accept. The longer we accomodate the Crows and Power reserves in what was a glorious, passionate comp the year before talk of their entry arose, the more these type of emergency surgies we are going to look at with such credulity.
Personally I would prefer the radio and things as they were last year to this proposition. I took out club memberships when I lived in Japan, and don't need extra incentive to take them out now I live in Australia. Having replays of the games will be nice, but not at the cost of radio coverage IMO.
Anyway, that's my view. This is a solution tailored to an old man with lung cancer who refuses to give up the gaffs. Without that cancer inducing habit, we could be realistically looking to recruit NEW fans, rather than pandering to an aging niche.

Yeah, what happens is that you win a flag, and then the merchandise van magically starts selling them

saintal wrote:FT

SA 13.6
ADE 13.12

That %^&*ing song..

Good game of footy.

Dum-dum dum-dum dum-de-dum.
The most brain dead combination of notes in the history of football. Three Blind Mice would be an improvement.

If there is one positive out of the AfL reserves incursion it is the notion that an afl reserves comp will destroy the status our league is rubbish. I've maintained for years an independent SANFL with no afl players/affiliation will be not only the second best league but the envy of every traditional state league in Australia.

I'm not sticking up for the AFL sides I think the evidence is in and it was the wrong decision and the system of farming out the AFL players to the various SANFL sides worked much better but do you honestly think the SANFL would last longer than five minutes if the AFL set up a reserves comp?

Overnight the SANFL would become a third string comp and the AFL and it's media partners would ensure the comp would die a swift death. I don't like the idea of bending over to the AFL but that is the reality of the footy landscape, they hold all the power and unfortunately you've got to get on the teat whilst trying to keep as much of your integrity as possible.
Disagree.
The SANFL's strength has always been out adherence to tradition. Before the Crows muscled their way into our comp we were a bastion. While the AFL were reinventing the game every 5 minutes in the name of squeezing every possible dollar out of it, we were a comparable sancturay for the way the game should be played. It was something the fans loved about it.

I have read that West and Port once had a massive rivalry.
Norwood and Port were neck and neck for premierships through the 60's to the early 80's.

I want to point out a quirky stat concerning Sturt and North.
Beginning in 1969, these two sides have always been within at least one premiership of the other. Like two tennis players playing a very long game that has gone into deuce, the side that is trailing by one flag, will win exactly two, before the other wins its next.

1968: Sturt 8 flags, North 9 flags.
Sturt won the 1969 and 1970 premierships to go to 10 flags to North's 9, and surpassing them in total premierships for the first time in the history of the two clubs.
North won the 1971 and 1972 premierships. Sturt 10 to North 11.
Sturt won the 1974 and 1976 premierships. Sturt 12 to North 11.
North won the 1987 and 1991 premierships. Sturt 12 to North 13.
Sturt won the 2002 and 2016 premierships. Sturt 14 to North 13.

Don't know if that means much to anyone else out there, but it is nice to be ahead of North again, and the second most successful current club in the SANFL.

Been mentioned by someone on another forum that Summerton will probably be the last Magpie player to get to 200 games. Under the current set-up 50 games maximum may be hard to achieve. It is sad in a way a once great SANFL club has been changed to a practice team status. The 1870 image the PAP has tried to transfer to its AFL side has really no basis. I wonder what die hard Magpie supporters think.

Its not sad at all. The PAFC decided that they wanted to play in the highest comp. When that happend they should have left SANFL all together. Die hard magpie fans should be proud that their club seeked higher honours.
Yes it is sad. Port are just as much part of the fabric of SANFL as the two separate entities of Woodville and Torrens once were. Because the decision makers of their club brought this to themselves does not make it anymore sad IMO. There are plenty of Magpie folk who do not attend anymore because they do not want to see these AFL body snatchers dancing around in the skin of the club that they have loved all their lives, and they really had no way to avoid the situation. A SANFL club can no more stand up to an AFL franchise than a tomato defeat a steam roller. Halbert proposed Sturt become the Crows reserves at one stage, now THAT would have been devastating from my perspective, which is sad multiplied by about 3,000. Fortunately I was in the majority on that occasion, probably because Sturt's identity is different enough from the Crow's that enough people realised it just didn't make any sense. I pity the poor Port folk who did not wish this, and pity the SANFL football landscape that has such an ugly welt running through it.

Been mentioned by someone on another forum that Summerton will probably be the last Magpie player to get to 200 games. Under the current set-up 50 games maximum may be hard to achieve. It is sad in a way a once great SANFL club has been changed to a practice team status. The 1870 image the PAP has tried to transfer to its AFL side has really no basis. I wonder what die hard Magpie supporters think.

Its not sad at all. The PAFC decided that they wanted to play in the highest comp. When that happend they should have left SANFL all together. Die hard magpie fans should be proud that their club seeked higher honours.
Yes it is sad. Port are just as much part of the fabric of SANFL as the two separate entities of Woodville and Torrens once were. Because the decision makers of their club brought this to themselves does not make it anymore sad IMO. There are plenty of Magpie folk who do not attend anymore because they do not want to see these AFL body snatchers dancing around in the skin of the club that they have loved all their lives, and they really had no way to avoid the situation. A SANFL club can no more stand up to an AFL franchise than a tomato defeat a steam roller. Halbert proposed Sturt become the Crows reserves at one stage, now THAT would have been devastating from my perspective, which is sad multiplied by about 3,000. Fortunately I was in the majority on that occasion, probably because Sturt's identity is different enough from the Crow's that enough people realised it just didn't make any sense. I pity the poor Port folk who did not wish this, and pity the SANFL football landscape that has such an ugly welt running through it.

I'm more interested in how you came to the figure of exactly 3,000 times more devastated ;)
No I distinctly said "about" 3,000. ;)

Fair enough Morrell, I can understand it is a case of each to their own. The one thing I cannot abide by though is the Power's (and the Crows' for that matter) need to completely bastardise the whole of the SANFL comp, just to find a convenient place to field a reserves side, which is getting back to the question that is being asked: Is it sad what has happened to the Magpies? I mean all the things you describe about the Power match day experience must be great for Power supporters. You can have all that WITHOUT taking a dump on the SANFL.

Eagles confirming why they are clearly the best team in the comp
They were last year aswell. Got to get it done in finals though

No ifs buts or maybes why the eagles lost 2016 unlike 2015 I remember them losing 2016 my injury wiped out everything from 2015.

Having said that eagles are playing different this year imho
More younger players standing up
Yesterday's game the smalls destroyed Glenelg

I like to ask the question from what I've been reading Glenelg this Glenelg that . Glenelg come back in the final term and win .
What I saw yesterday by Glenelg a lot of stop start footy
When they got the balk out of centre yes but around the ground no very stop start
Slow decision making ect ect .

And that wasn't a full strength Eagles unit
Look who we're in the seconds
45 and 22
Eagles will improve more
Next week port might be far better or those extra afl players might be tired from their China trip
Enjoy the win, ATM you're the best team in the comp. Not sure where you've been reading "Glenelg this, Glenelg that" :lol:
Our manning up & ball watching was actually worse than the predictable umpiring display at Woodville.
That'd be me Spargo.
I own up.
I said you were very good after you thumped us at the Bay. I also instructed people not to mistake that fact, from memory, the actual wording may differ though.
I'm sure that the Eagles are very good as well though, and seeing that there is a small chance I might be loosely quoted on the subject, I want to assure people it would be wrong to mistake how good the Eagles are also. Although I haven't seen them play but they did manage to smash Glenelg, so that means they must be pretty good.
Hope this clears things up a bit.

Pseudo wrote:

wedgetail wrote:Apologies for triple reply, had trouble submitting!

Can you just clarify, how much will the Eagles win by, and are they close to full strength?

What I really want to know is will he be surprised if any supposedly unfit Eagles take the field this round.

From the Tiser today:

Bone’s beef: Where have the SANFL crowds gone?
Chris McDermott, The Advertiser
May 18, 2017 11:00am

...............

The Crows and the Power have not been the magic bullet everyone imagined.

The two teams gave the competition a brief spike but it died just as quickly.

...............

.

And history is being rewritten already.
Spike? Magic bullet? Everyone ?
Rather than being the significant reason in the recent drop in crowds, the Crows and Power are now painted as would be saviours; even their presence unable to save a competition descending to irrelevance.
The fact that we predicted all this would happen if the reserves joined is conveniently forgotten. Just go to the beginning pages of the "No AFL in the SANFL whinge thread". It is all documented there for posterity. Hundreds of comments forewarning the demise to come, and dozens of Crow/Power lovers telling us that we were all paranoid.
Now they want to say that there was something wrong with the competition before the reserves joined?
Do us a favour Bone, if you want to save the SANFL, you need to be honest about what is damaging it.

Would definitely weaken the Crows.
If Port were forced to make up the numbers with unproven top ups it would hurt them too. Just highlights the ridiculous situation of having three different sets of rules for who you can have out on the park.
If Port had the same rules as the Crows, Summerton wouldn't be playing for the Magpies at all.

I'd also argue that it is easier for the SANFL to implement their change in prices, days, times, seasons, etc. because as a compromised, practice league, the will to be taken seriously is lacking.
We have gone from being a thorn in the AFL's side; the last bastion of non-compliance to their corporate empire, and a beacon to all those that despise the shape football has taken under their reign, to a pitiable institution over which many are discussing charity; no longer capable of drawing the disaffected.
If the vermin were kicked out tomorrow, I wonder if we would ever recover? Most seem to agree that it is already too late for that.

Well said JK.
I feel like I (and others) have said the same in different words a hundred times over.

Nah. Too many Norwood flogs thinking by beating Port's reserves that they're somehow on par with us as a club and I'd probably get escorted out by a man in a high vis vest after politely informing them that their opines are perhaps not accurate.

I watched it on TV though.
Hmm, now, if you look closely morell, you will see hidden within your post here, one of the major reasons why we do not want the reserves in our league.

Do you think you will be able to find it? Good luck! :D

NO OFFAL IN THE SANFUL! (IT'S AN ACRONYM NOT A WORD.) :-Q


There's a 400 page thread dedicated to this. Can we please keep this in there so we can have conversations about the games. I get it, it's been 4 years and you will still be bitter in 40 years. I'm still filthy Scott and Chalene left Ramsay street but I don't throw the toys out the cot every time Neighbours comes on.

OK gotta go I'm off to catch my flight on the Queensland and Northern Territory Airline Service.....What's that you say?
Q.A.N.T.A.S.....Still don't know whatim talking about
Qantas

Yes names, logos and identities evolve over time.

It started in 1990 when a SA team entered the AFL and change has occurred.

Personally I have no issue with people wanting the AFL Reserves out but we finally have a few threads that don't get hijacked by the anti establishments. It would be great if that could continue and posts like yours above could not infect football or game related threads.
South were torn a new one today by two of their ex-players, recruited under a set of rules allowed to only two of the clubs, and there was nothing they could do to prevent their going.
Bit hard not to mention the elephant in the room don't you think?

I feel for the Port supporters that haven't been able to move on, must be very sad to be so bitter. You can't help negativity I suppose!

The Port Adelaide I grew up supporting was always looking to be the best, always looking for the ultimate success, was constantly striving to be the most successful senior football club in the land. To do that, we had to move to the best competition in the land. It was a natural and entirely understandable progression. Port Adelaide are playing in the AFL, so to those Magpie fans, come along to a Power game, just try it. See how you go.

Now, I have put up with a lot in this thread of late, bit of name calling and stirring up is fine as I understand that most are merely misguided and perhaps a bit naive - so I do tend to poke fun and perhaps offer a little bit of brevity.

But. For the admin of a site called "safooty" to state things like this:

raped then destroyed by a soulless franchise created solely for plastic fans.

Is beyond the pale.

1. To use sexual assault as analogous to football comings and goings is honestly pretty disgusting. Go **** yourself.
2. You are not a Port Adelaide member or supporter, you don't get to tell us where our soul is. Go **** yourself.
3. Come and stand on the hill and tell me and my mates that we're soulless fans. All of us have been supporters for decades. Go **** yourself.
4. Your meager attempts at a false and revisionist history to undermine the Port Adelaide Football Club does nothing to hide your obvious resentment. You just come across as a sad old flog. Go **** yourself.

The above is why I loathe so many SANFL people. Instead of being respectful and engaging with fellow football people, Port or not, you blatantly alienate and ostracise. I'm the perfect candidate to go to SANFL games. I'm soon to retire from local footy, I'll have spare time, I like football, maybe I would come along to more and more games, but this above just makes me want the entire league and it's clubs to wither and die.

That sort of pissant state league level bullshit is really whats hold your league back. You're specifically and actively reducing your market. People hear dudes talk like that about the clubs they love (AFL) and figure the SANFL is only for the old school die hards - so why would they bother? Forget about the AFL Reserves. I'd start focusing on this attitude and public relations as the first and easiest problem to solve.

But aside from all that, you can have your thread back. All the best.
:lol: :lol: :lol:
Please let this be your last post Morrell. It would be the best cameo exit this thread has had.

It is a sign of my respect for the Magpies and those supporters that have been alienated by the Power's take over that I do not forget that they are probably suffering more than I.
But hey, you speak for ALL Port supporters and I obviously have no idea about human nature whatsoever, as there is only one type of Port supporter. YOU, right?

"who knows what decision I would have made had it been my team that made that leap."


And how much would you resent people telling you what decision they think you should have made?
Pretty pissed off I imagine. But I would be speaking for myself.
I would then be backing away from supporting a reserve entry by our senior side into the SANFL. These are clearly two separate issues.

I gather this happens routinely in the VFL and doesn’t raise too many eyebrows, but an example of a player sitting out the final term to rest up for a likely promotion the following week (5 day break for him if he plays). For the record, Collingwood kicked the final 3 goals to win by 14 points.

http://www.saints.com.au/news/2017-06-05/bruce-puts-hand-up-for-recall
Maybe because there are so many reserve teams in that league that the culture is a bit different. It might be more like a reserves comp that has a couple of genuine teams in it, rather than the other way around.

That said, this type of thing really shits me.
It is exactly the sort of thing most of us warned of when the reserves were proposed. Of course this sort of thing is always going to happen in a reserves team, and if the comp the reserves are playing in is a genuine comp, then it becomes a COMPROMISED genuine comp.
There are still nitwits out there that do not understand the impact this sort of shit has. Basically they are all so happy and snuggly with their AFL, they cannot (or do not WANT to) see the damage caused to those around them, as their blinkered world becomes just that little bit more happy and snuggly.
Having a happy, snuggly place for all their reserves players to play together... ahhhhhh, like a nice toasty fire on their pampered, slippered feet, while football a grade below basically loses meaning.

Thanks Matt.
From memory, this year's Anzac Day game was played in pretty miserable conditions. Perhaps would have got a few extra on a better day.

K.G was quite adamant. They took callers on the topic.
Bloody hope it does not happen. I don't really know how seriously we should be discussing it as yet. Still just a rumour...

Pilfer maybe for the No AFL in the SANFL tragics, Opportunity for the rest of us.

Under past circumstances I would have been more happy for the lads taking their next step. Under past circumstances we had a system which didn't force team mate against team mate on their path to a better future.
I still wish Leinert all the best and truly hope he further swells the number of Sturt blokes in the Power's first team. I would find it a very bitter pill had all those Sturt blokes played for the Magpies and then thumped their former side to the tune of 125 points.
Surely you can relate to what we are saying here?

It was the former system that pitted teammate against teammate not the current which sees players train all week together and play together on the weekend
Payer against player in a system where it is deemed "reserves" for those team mates.
In the new system, you have team mates who came through the "league" together, now having to play against one another.
It is all a matter of perspective. We are a part of a league that is being made a joke of. You are looking from the outside saying, "who gives a ****?" There is much more at stake for us.

So is it about the money or the players. It's pretty hard to fit a squad of 45 players into 22 is my educated guess why they are playing SANFL, not to mention the fact they're not quite up to the level yet. If you're hanging your hat on a couple of players making a difference then the standard of the league may be worse than I thought. Just guessing but I reckon the money recieved from the AFL clubs would offset a couple of 30k transfers (highly inflated considering weekly match payments)
What money from the AFL clubs?

To my understanding the 2 AFL clubs are paying the SANFL something like $15million for AFL licences over a period of time and the Crows are paying around $300k per year for their reserves team, if this money is not filtering to the other 8 clubs from the SANFL then their is only 1 party to be bitter at here.
Yes, you are paying a license fee. You would have to pay it regardless of parking your reserves in the SANFL.
Then it gets a bit weird...
The Crows pay a fee for being in the league, but get to use Football park facilities for free... go figure.
Port do not have to pay this fee, but then they are responsible for their own training oval etc.
Just part of the contrivances employed in the failed endeavour to make the reserves workable.
Free transfers is another...

A) Set up in a reserves comp then if it is such a problem for you.
B) In that case, just send Wingard and Pittard over to Carlton. No transfer fees applicable, and it is only a couple of players, if that makes any difference then the standard at Port is much worse off than I thought.

A) IMO a reserves comp could be worse off for the SANFL clubs and survival would be even harder
B) Totally different, there's around 100 draftees per season entering the AFL from many leagues, you're saying that the AFL clubs should pay a transfer fee for every player. Like it or not the SANFL is a feeder comp for the AFL, I understand people don't like change but most of the players are playing there for one reason only, time to accept it for what it is
To be sure, our specific complaint is about two reserve entities operating in our league under different rules to us, and an agenda other than winning.
This is being highlighted by reference to transfer fees. It would be exactly the same as Carlton suddenly taking two of your better players and just handing them to another club to be used against you.
You would find these complaints would evaporate as soon as you took your reserve side out of the SANFL.
So if you would be totally cool with handing two of your better players to a rival club for no compensation, then you would have grounds to tell us that it is a fair system.
The problem here is that there are two reserve teams competing with eight fair dinkum passionate clubs, whose chief motive is winning, rather than practice.There are so many of these irregular quirks that we tend just to say "compromised", so of course we will discuss the actual examples when they turn up also.

The same people that tell me Port Magpies are there for practice only and don't care about winning are the same people that tell me Port Power only recruit SANFL players to improve their Magpies side. That sounds like a contradiction to me.
And what's your opinion? You seriously think the Magpies now take the field with a win at all costs attitude? That if your first ruckman got injured the day before, you wouldn't rest up your reserves ruck a bit, even if the game was on the line?
Recruiting players purely to boost the Magpies would not contradict the above, by the way. You can fill up on Rookies without contradicting the first law of reserves, which is they exist to support a side in a higher grade.
Whether Eddy, Irra , Leinert and co were recruited for that purpose alone might be a bit of a stretch, but it is a very, very, easy way of boosting your side, while weakening others.
What's the solution?
Get the reserves out of the SANFL.
Easy!

List management, nothing new there even in Amateurs :roll:
Yes, list management.
and....?
Did you not understand my previous post? I just asked you if you believe the Magpies exist purely to win. If it came down to resting a KPP because he'd be needed the following week to cover injuries, would he be rested as opposed to playing on in order to win that match.
I will give you a hint, the answer will be yes, or no. It will not be "list management"!
The rest of my post focused on the fact that you can recruit players, and STILL be serving to support a more senior team, whose Win/Loss ledger is more important than the reserves team's.
What do you think of that?
Let me give you a hint. The answer will be along the lines of "Yes, you are right", or "No, in my opinion you are wrong".
It will not be, "List management", followed by the rolly eyes symbol.
I think you are confusing what I am saying with a conversation about the MERITS of recruiting those players. If we WERE talking about that, then it would be quite correct of you to respond with "List management". If i were trying to deny the fact that they were there as part of list management, you MIGHT then decide to insert a rolly eyes smiley to show that you are frustrated. Seeing as NEITHER of these things have happened, I am beginning to question your ability to follow what's happening on this page, and I would not at all be surprised if you returned an answer of "Yes, I believe the first maxim of the Magpies is to win, as opposed to practice and develop players for the Power.

Did a quick scan of crowds this year and it appears the top team the Eagles are bottom of the home match average crowds this year, even below West and not even half of what Norwood have been averaging.
:shock:

No surprise, alot more appeal going to Norwood with bars and food in the area than the cold expanses of suburban Woodville. Adelaide Oval has changed the landscape for what people want out of going to the footy.
Norwood is a very nice venue. A lot of people I know at the footy these days will attend games at Norwood and possibly Glenelg, but would otherwise not attend away games.

Rubbish! Look at the crowds at all other matches last weekend, it was a good crowd.

Compare yourself to rubbish and rubbish you will be!

If you were to average that each week you'll need tarps at the ready and your hand out again for an AFL lifeline. We've made progress amber, progress.

Soon you'll be holding your scarfe over your head singing 80s ballads.

I go to 4-5 Power games a year as my mates are supporters to catch-up and have a few beers.
Each and every time they think it's funny to wave their scarfe in my face as they play that stupid INXS song, and each and every time I want to knock their block off! ;)
I think it is a real thrill for them to interact with Carlton supporters. Probably they all go home and note down how a class football supporter reacts when confronted by scarfe waving dickheads. :lol:

I didn't realise money affected a players ability.
Damn it...I wish someone paid me to play and I would of been a decent player!

If you paid Westies players as much as Ports players they'd be just as good. :lol:

maybe if their full time footballers. :o
You mean that if somebody was paid so much for playing football, he could actually live off that money instead of having to find a full time job?
Then he could spend all that time practicing, recovering, studying the game and improving his fitness?
Wow! I met a chef who could cut a cucumber in the blink of an eye, when I asked him about it, he said "It's my job! It is all I do! If I was paid to catch balls all day, I would be just as mind-bogglingly great at that as well!"
So if a footballer can make a comfortable living playing football... and other footballers are not allowed to...
Gee, now that you mention it, maybe there is an advantage that the Crows and Power have over the traditional clubs after all?

(note : thinking process spelt out for people who consistently seem to miss the steps when thinking about this topic)

JK wrote:

therisingblues wrote:Cucumber sandwiches and something with an umbrella in it at Unley.
Don't turn up if not wearing tweed, scumbags!

Ha, I was going to suggest Cucumber Sandwiches or Mung Beans for your mob

I thought I could hear the wheels turning out there somewhere...
Thought I would jump in first!

Every thing is free at Alberton. Thanks for the security tax payers!

Social security.
Thought you had the "Turn up in one thong, get another... free!" deal?

Nah they got sick of the old joke........ Port supporter walks into Alberton with one thong on, another supporter says 'hey mate you lost a thong',
Port supporter yells back, 'Nah mate I found one'! :lol:
Joke?
I thought it was a true story! ;)

I didn't realise money affected a players ability.
Damn it...I wish someone paid me to play and I would of been a decent player!
You come across like a clever bloke MW so I'll assume you are deliberately missing the point, but in case I'm wrong and you really aren't that smart, I'll spell it out for you.

Paying players more money doesn't make them better players.
Better players command a higher salary, just like in any other line of work.
Having a higher salary cap enables a club to attract the better players because it can pay more.
Two teams in a league where their salary cap is significantly higher than the other teams competing in the same league, have a significant advantage over those other teams.

So would you agree a team with a salary cap 100 times greater, (or whatever the exact ratio is), than another team in the same league has an advantage. Or more to the point, do you think it is fair?
If it was all the best players on Adelaides & Ports lists then yeah its totally unfair but thats not the case. Its mainly the 2nd tier & rookie listed players that play in the SANFL.
I don't have access to the actual figures myself Cracka, but I would hazard a guess that those second tier and rookie players are also on a truckload more cash than the rest of the competition.
Are you then claiming that it would only be unfair if the wealthiest players in Australia competed in the SANFL, but seeing as the reserves, while far exceeding the salary of the top paid part time footballer in the SANFL, are not the wealthiest, then it is okay?
I am sure the SANFL regulars, while they are toiling away at their boiler-making, tile-laying, teaching, marine research, or whatever it is they must do to pay their mortgage, put food on the table and send their kids to school, are thanking their lucky stars that it is only the 2nd tier full time footballers who are being trained in the state of the art facilities, tended to by the nation's best sports doctors and taught the game by Australia's highest paid coaches, that they must play against on weekends.
Yeah, sounds COMPLETELY fair to me. Glad that the Crows fans realise that it would be totally unfair for the TOP paid players on their list to be playing in the SANFL.
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If we lose to Centrals this week you can almost rule a line through us.

Lose this week and it's bloody difficult. Going to need 10 wins to make the finals as a minimum, 11 to be assured.

Sitting on six wins we have to beat the sides ranked 8-10 ATM in our return fixtures (North, West, Centrals) - two of those three are "away".

We then have to win at least one, preferably two against South/Nwd/Adelaide (four pt games). Two of those three are at the Bay.

Can't see us getting close to Port and Sturt ATM - Port will still be spewing about thinking all they had to do was rock up for the "W" in rd 1.

Confident the boys can "get it done" though

Going over the last 10 years 10-11 wins has made the 5 in 20 match seasons. South actually made it with 8 wins in 2011. The last 3 years in the 18 match comp 9 wins last year 9 1/2 the previous and 10 wind 2014 has done the trick. South has 3very winnable games coming up leaving it to win 2 from 5 against all the sides above them.
We are probably at that stage of the season where we look at the remaining matches for all teams in contention.
Having not done this myself, I can only say that I think clubs need a high amount of wins to make the 5 this year, with West, North and Central dropping most games to sides above them .
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With this comment I would normally be hot for the annual full of shit award.
But I think I am running at least a distant second to one other chappy.... :lol:

Not sure about that! It was on zero until you came along.

MickyJ, I made a similar comment about Port's crowd when I saw those figures in the other thread.
The figures suggest that Port is still drawing sizeable crowds, yet my own personal experience (since they became the Power reserves) has been where are these fans exactly? At Sturt games they are more numerous than Crows fans, but otherwise there just aren't that many of them about, especially compared with pre 2014.
Now, I am not saying this to get my dick out, or stir the pot, and sure, I realise that as an away crowd there would likewise, be less Sturt supporters, but there is a marked difference between what the figures say and my own observations. It would seem that Micky has had the same observation as I.
I would suggest that the old Port rivalry is still a popular draw card for opposition supporters, that seems a pretty solid assumption from my perspective. The figures would have received a healthy boost from the Power bye weekend. Photos from that match showed a good turnout of nostalgic Magpie supporters from days of yore.
Anyway, just adding to the discussion. As I have always said, a strong Port Magpies is good for the SANFL, hence this recent (perhaps, perceived?) disparity between Port crowd figures and actual support is of interest to me.

Having our daily planning meeting which I hate attending at the best of times, I look across the table and one manager is messing about on his phone, another one is munging away on his chicken and rice with his mouth open, I did my best for a while.

I hate, absolutely hate when people ring me and they're eating. If I'm munching on something I don't pick up the phone and answer it. If I take a bite of an apple I don't start dialing as I take a munch, why do people do that FFS?

I'm useless in meetings like that, I'd just pipe up and say something.

I was doing First Aid training and this chick kept messing with her phone, it kept vibrating as she received messages and everyone was rolling their eyes. I went and grabbed it and put it on the desk up the front. Not one person said a word. The other people in the room sat motionless, the guy giving the class just went "Haven't seen that before" and went back to where he was.
Bloody good Booney. I wish this was the norm.
Could you imagine in the days before mobile phones, if during a first aid presentation, there was somebody loudly flicking the pages of the novel they were reading, or scratching away at a letter that seemed integral to send at that exact moment? "Mobile phone" is fast becoming a synonym for "no patience" in today's society. Rude does not cover it IMO.

Wasn't the security guard acting on behalf of the Adelaide official, as per WF's post below, and the account of other WAFC people?

We were approached by the ground security supervisor and advised that they had received a complaint from an 'Adelaide Crows Official' about us banging on the fence excessively .

The 'official' was a security guard contracted by Adelaide. Not sure how many times that needs to be said.
Well if that is what Adelaide said... all others with information about it must be wrong! :lol:

And there's ******* whinging in here. :roll:

**** off to the 576 other threads and sulk in there.

Just coz you don't agree with him doesn't mean he's whinging.
But there are other threads to DISCUSS it.
I think some people don't want to remember what it is to be a true Magpie. Perhaps tarnishes the myth that everything is just so rosy now?
My understanding of how Hodges feels about the whole Power thing would suggest to me that it definitely is worth remembering in this, a thread about him.
But I agree with Amber, it would probably be better if you DISCUSSED it elsewhere Booney.

BREAKING NEWS

"We interrupt this live coverage of Tropical Cyclone Frankenstein to report that Tex Walker has just bought a hotdog from Wendy's. Let's cross now to Andrea Anderson in Rundle Mall, where a small crowd is now gathering to see if he has used tomato sauce, mustard or both.
We'll be back in Darwin following this story to see if the handful of buildings not yet obliterated by Frankenstein's menacing winds are still standing.
Over to you Andrea!!!"

"Yes, thanks Harry! Well it's fun, fun, fun here in Rundle Mall...."

The SANFL site seems to not have any coverage ATM. Glad I can access flashscore.
Sturt and Norwood tied away in the dead rubber at 1:1 a piece.
Central beating Eagles 2:2 TO 0:2
Port 2:1 to North 0:3
South 3:0 to the fruit loops 1:4
About 20 plus minutes 1st term