As a trained and experienced doctor, but not I admit an infectious diseases expert, I take this CV virus very seriously and I am very happy to have had my second AZ jab last night.

When I can (perhaps next year) I'll have the Pfizer as well and line up for an annual booster as we do for the influenza shot. I've even had the Rabies vaccination when I was about to travel to a high risk area for that.

What has been revealed by the hostility to rational medical advice and sensible government restrictions to prevent the spread of this potentially fatal virus is that the incidence of paranoid and delusional thinking in the community is much more widespread than we had thought it was.

As a trained and experienced doctor, but not I admit an infectious diseases expert, I take this CV virus very seriously and I am very happy to have had my second AZ jab last night.

When I can (perhaps next year) I'll have the Pfizer as well and line up for an annual booster as we do for the influenza shot. I've even had the Rabies vaccination when I was about to travel to a high risk area for that.

What has been revealed by the hostility to rational medical advice and sensible government restrictions to prevent the spread of this potentially fatal virus is that the incidence of paranoid and delusional thinking in the community is much more widespread than we had thought it was.

No what has been revealed is the willingness of Doctors like yourself to tow the line despite not having any scientific evidence whatsoever.
Whats in the vaccine?
Can you show us the warning label that comes with the vaccine?
Can you show us that covid19 has actually been isolated?
Can you provide the "experts" advice that lockdowns work? that masks work? Just as many peer reviewed studies out there to show that masks do not work.
If i was to have a letter drawn up for you to sign, saying that you take responsibility for any adverse reaction or death from administering me the vaccine, would you sign it? I rest my case

No what has been revealed is the willingness of Doctors like yourself to tow the line despite not having any scientific evidence whatsoever.
I don't automatically toe any line but I read the technical information and statistics available to me in medical journals.

Whats in the vaccine? The details would require a full journal article, but basically the same stuff that is in other vaccines that have saved lives over the years.

Can you show us the warning label that comes with the vaccine? No I didn't bother to look personally as I've been having vaccines since the 1950s and never had a problem with any of them.

Can you show us that covid19 has actually been isolated? No I haven't been reading specialist Virology journals lately, but I can't see any reason anyone would be motivated to make it up.

Can you provide the "experts" advice that lockdowns work? that masks work? Just as many peer reviewed studies out there to show that masks do not work. Anything that prevents spread of any infective agent from one person to another works to some degree but nothing is 100% perfect. You have to go with the probabilities. Occasional failures don't prove it is all a lie except to the paranoid. The mask issue - if fitted properly they help prevent spread but if they leave a gap on either side of your nose or over your cheeks their effectiveness is reduced. A lot of people don't fit them to their face properly especially those who resent using them.

If i was to have a letter drawn up for you to sign, saying that you take responsibility for any adverse reaction or death from administering me the vaccine, would you sign it? No but I'd sign one stating we had discussed the small risks involved compared to the higher risks from actually catching the virus and then let you make your choice. .

That is my last comment. It is like discussing religion. People choose to believe what they want to believe regardless and rational discussion is ineffective. I don't expect to convert you - just to oppose you frightening others.

Lightning McQueen wrote:The dude that invents the home testing kit is going to be a very rich man.

Get to work one @Psyber

Yeah - pity I didn't train in Virology...

My previous wife was part French and a gourmet cook.

After she died in 2008 I realised I had never cooked in my life beyond barbecuing the odd chop. My new wife was a TV Producer and an actress, plus a Marriage Celebrant, and a Rotarian and a family run Child Care Centre manager - she doesn't cook much either.

Thank God for LIte and Easy!
Mind you in 2008 I weighed 115Kg and I'm now 86Kg.

The solution?

The "just a little 'flu" quip I've seen or heard a few times sort wryly amuses me.

Back in 1957, before we had any 'flu vaccines, that would minimise the potency of the infection, I got the then current "Asian 'Flu". I missed 2 weeks of my second term of school - home in bed hallucinating intermittently, and with my temperature hovering around 42C most of that time. There was concern at the time that I would die from it.

Vaccines have helped us tame the 'flu, and will do the same for Covid once we get enough of the anti-vaxxers converted. I do expect there will be an annual booster for new variants of Covid from now just like we have now for the "flu.

I was busy at the time and missed this one.

I've supported becoming a republic since Bob Menzies tried to call our new decimal currency the "Royal" back in 1966.

However I couldn't vote for the only model that we were ever offered because it would have made the Presidency a sinecure for retiring politicians. I think what we really need is a form of elected Ombudsman as "President" to protect the public from power crazy political parties and bureaucrats.

Back on Tex for a minute (because why not...), Rowey last night kept going on about wanting all the facts to come out in the lead up to what Tex said.

Not sure what he is eluding too...something Robbie said to Tex or Crouch? Surely even Rowey knows no provocation excuses racist comments so would be interesting to know what Rowey thinks happened.

The general consensus was that Young was 'snipering' blokes with blind sided bumps at stoppages, on occasion knocking Crouch to the ground fairly forcefully.

As you said no excuse to resort to racial vilification.

Correct - there may have been an excuse there to call him a "c..t" or something similar, but not to add "black".

I was amazed at the outset when the US and its allies decided they could do something about Afghanistan after the Russians had failed to do anything effective...

I see the American Spud Joe Biden is getting really popular now especially after the debacle of the American withdrawal from Afghanistan.

A lot of us knew he was a spud even before he supposedly got voted in . :lol:

https://rumble.com/vm7tl0-f-joe-biden-has-become-a-nation-wide-trend.html
Well the only alternative was another bout of Trump. :roll:
Good thing Joe did get voted in given the choice offered.
Hopefully next time around neither of them are contenders....

Ivermectin side effects: https://www.sydney.edu.au/news-opinion/news/2021/09/03/-thinking-of-trying-ivermectin-for-covid-heres-what-can-happen-w.html

However there are report on how it makes you shoot blanks:

Have cited the pubmed source rather than ladbible https://pubmed.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/21783912/
Reading the article it seems its can be used to treat some things. The problems occur when people use the animal version or overdose on it, well derr.
Would love to know if psyber has ever prescribed it
Nope. Never had a need to for any of the legitimate indications.

Well well well very very interesting article for anyone that has time and patience maybe Psyber some feed back from you,

More than 3,000 doctors and scientists sign statement accusing COVID policymakers of ‘crimes against humanity’

The Doctors’ Declaration was first read at the Covid summit in Rome, sparking an explosion of active support from medical scientists and doctors around the world. These professionals did not expect career threats, character assassination, papers and research censored, social accounts blocked, search results tampered with, clinical trials and patient observations banned, and their professional histories and achievements altered or omitted in academic and mainstream media.

https://awsforwp.com/2021/09/24/more-than-3000-doctors-and-scientists-sign-statement-accusing-covid-policymakers-of-crimes-against-humanity-american-greatness/
I guess there are lunatic fringe medical doctors in some parts of the world and there are other people entitled to the title.

I wonder what sort of "doctor" they are...
Those with a Doctor of Osteopathy or Chiropractic tend to be treated as real medical personnel in the USA and some other countries.
(The basic tenet of Osteopathy is that all diseases are caused by dis-alignment of the long bones and muscles, and of Chiropractic that all diseases are caused by dis-aligned vertebrae - making other medical care like vaccines totally unnecessary!)

Then there are Doctors of Philosophy who may have a doctorate in Arts or general sciences...

I don't know a single medical doctor in Oz who is an anti-vaxxer, or who would believe that stuff.

Best wishes for today Psyber.
Thanks.
Turning 78 is a bit of a shock, but I'm fit and healthy, and I've only gone grey around the edges.

I told my wife I wanted it low key, no presents, no celebrations. So this morning she hands me two parcels to unwrap, and tells me she has arranged lunch at the Crafers with mutual friends we both knew independently before they introduced us.

All the best Psyber, one of my favourite posters, hope you're having a great day! Would have been perfect weather for lunch in the hills!
It was a good day and the Crafers make a pretty good Creme Brulee to finish of a nice Parmi and a shared bottle of a nice Yarra Valley bubbly.
I didn't need to eat anything that evening...

All the best Booney for your day.

Greetings to all from Perth!
Back in SA at the end of November.

It gets a bit scary as you age. I turned 78 this month and my new wife will be 73 in the new year.

However, I take some comfort from the fact that most of my family have made it to about 98, and my wife's mother is still well and active, and planning multiple parties for her 90th which is coming up soon.

Most of my old school mates are still with us, but a super fit marathon runner went down back in 2009 or so, and another - a former state ALP Minister -went recently too.

gazzamagoo wrote:

Footy Chick wrote:

gazzamagoo wrote:Just bought a house in Magill,
McGill in Magill.

on Magill Road?

Nope, tucked away just off Shakespeare Ave

Not a bad spot.
I lived in Shelley St nearby years ago and was interested in buying in the Shakespeare Avenue area, but finished up in Vale Park.

Can't travel far even from Perth but greetings from a friend I made in a cafe on Rottnest Island..

gazzamagoo wrote: Why would the government want to give everyone cancer?

Good question.
It would cost governments a fortune as it filled up the hospitals and longer term care centres.
Then there is the reduced income from less tax income from the smaller population.

Wishing you and your family all the best, Carey.

I started out with a mild headache and muscular aches on Wednesday morning this week but felt better later in the day. On Thursday I woke up with a runny nose and sneezing and some fatigue, but no temperature elevation. I played a safe and an RA Test late morning indicated I had Covid. A later PCR confirmed it.

Today, I feel OK apart from a runny nose and some sneezing. My wife is negative so far. The timing suggests I may have picked it up at an Art class I went to with my wife on Tuesday, as my other potential exposures were last weekend and the government advice is that that is too far back. I'm not entirely convinced by that because events I went to on Saturday and Sunday involved larger numbers and more mixing.

I'm glad I'm triple vaxxed as it is really fairly mild.

Wallaroo with a couple of mates for the weekend.

Hiccup.
This could've been my post, I'm just lacking time and I'm two mates short.
I live up here, I’ll be your mate for a weekend LM
:heart: :heart:

You're in God's country over there mate, what is there not to love about Yorke's? The food, the pubs, the fishing, the people, the bakeries...........I just don't know where to stop.

I seem to find the Fleurieu too cold for my liking as nice as it is, anywhere on the YP is my first choice.
My father grew up in the Moonta Mines area and we spent a lot of holiday time up there when I was a kid. His sister married a Wallaroo man and lived there. I recall net fishing with my cousins at Pt Hughes in my early teens.

(We are likely to be at Pt Vincent over Easter - free accommodation available.)

Nobody eats in my car. I accelerate hard and corner tight.
Spilling food or chucking up is totally forbidden, and so no food in the car.

I fell for the governments turning 31 private health insurance scam

I've been thinking and I've come to the conclusion private health insurance if your healthy is a complete scam.

"Pay us $1250 a year and you get $750 of dental services"

what a great deal!

*Makes sense if you do it for tax purposes though.

rant over!
My wife had two hip replacements 12 months apart with one of SA's top surgeons and made to measure in Switzerland hip replacement devices.
It cost us $600 in gaps and the fund paid $40K for the two top class replacements.

"Insurance" is just that spent money now to benefit when you finally need it. It is like insurance your house or car in case of unexpected disaster.

Jimmy_041 wrote:Time to line up for your panic jab

https://www.cidrap.umn.edu/news-perspective/2022/07/who-14000-monkeypox-cases-worldwide-5-deaths

Years ago I had a Smallpox vaccination - hopefully that covers me since they are a closely related virus...

It is an interesting issue.

Way back in the late 1970s and early 1980s I knew fairly well ex-Norwood player (and Psychiatrist) Keith Le Page. I'd attended a few lectures he did for doctors and he knew I had been a Norwood supporter since the late 1950s. He used to do lectures on motivation technique for SANFL trainers too and occasionally when he was away I substituted for him. It was not the kind of heavy stuff the Crows camp used - more about focus than aggression.

One time the SANFL administration approached me about doing a similar thing for coaches of under 14 teams. My comment was that I did not think it was appropriate to apply that technique to kids that young - never heard from the SANFL again!

I just turned 79 on October 19th - it was a bit startling to contemplate...
Next year is even scarier to contemplate, but my health is good and I'm physically able.

My wife and I spent last week in Brisbane and Noosa visiting my wife's younger sister, and old friends.

Despite the pouring rain and storm and flood warnings it was fairly warm and we were comfortable walking around between the more heavy showers, though the locals thought the ambient temperature, in the low 20s, was cold.

I just turned 79 on October 19th - it was a bit startling to contemplate...
Next year is even scarier to contemplate, but my health is good and I'm physically able.

My wife and I spent last week in Brisbane and Noosa visiting my wife's younger sister, and old friends.

Despite the pouring rain and storm and flood warnings it was fairly warm and we were comfortable walking around between the more heavy showers, though the locals thought the ambient temperature, in the low 20s, was cold.

Many happy returns, Psyber.

I'm sure I'm not alone in saying your contribution to this site is highly regarded, hope you enjoyed the break and warmer weather.

Thanks mate. I'm just grateful my brain is still intact, and my body as well except for some minor Osteo-Arthritis in my thumbs.

I think I might finally retire fully next September. Currently, I work about 2 months each year in public hospital outpatient services in various states - Perth was the most recent. (Also, just had and enjoyable if wet holiday in Brisbane and Noosa.)

I was being bullied a bit when I was around 9 or 10 but learned some Judo and demonstrated my skills in play fights.

One of the bullies persisted because his older sister - about 17 and a bikie's rough girlfriend - clobbered anyone who stood up to him. An older female cousin of mine and I discussed this and she went out with me so I could deal with him and when his sister stepped in she clobbered her. Then she told her that if she ever attacked me again she'd come and get her and do it thoroughly. That cousin was a big strong girl and a known athlete. Very handy!

Just when you thought it couldn't get more ridiculous..............

https://www.msn.com/en-us/health/medical/neglect-unvaccinated-people-more-likely-to-have-serious-driving-accidents/ar-AA15eshL?li=BBnba9O

:O) 8-}

"We theorized that individual adults who tend to resist public health recommendations might also neglect basic road safety guidelines,” the study’s authors stated.

That makes a sort of sense.

The fundamental premise of Chiropractic from its beginning is that all disease is caused by misalignment of the vertebrae, while Osteopathy preaches that all disease is caused by misalignment of the long bones. Neither really makes sense in terms of attributing all disease to such causes, but at least not all members of these groups are fundamentalist about these articles of faith, and so the more enlightened ones can do some good by behaving like physios.

Vertebrae rarely get misaligned unless damage is caused by a major injury but misalignment of the small articular facets holding the vertebrae together does occur and triggers muscle spasms and pain. The long bone mis-alignment theory could have some basis in discomfort caused by poor posture or muscular damage due to past injury in certain conditions - but not all disease!

A good Physiotherapist can teach you all you need to know, and what exercises to do thereafter, in a few sessions. There is no realistic basis for going to any of them for long periods.

(Years ago I was involved in assessing people for Worker's Compensation claims, and giving evidence in court. I'm still friends with some of the lawyers I met then. I co-worked with Occupational Physicians and Physiotherapists.)

Tomatoes can self seed profusely (where the fruit rots and it can and does survive the digestive process!).

Self seeding was one of the reasons that many market gardeners around Virginia and Two Wells often experimented with the fruitless tomato in their greenhouses late 70's into the 80's.
These grew small fruit which I assumed may have been because they arrived late in the season from other plants.
(I'm not much of a gardener!)
PS: One of my childhood friends who later experimented with the fruitless tomatoes in his greenhouses was Domenic Marafioti - the one found headless in Melbourne years ago.

Why are there so many driver’s reversing into car parks?


Watched a bloke today reverse park and he ran straight into the back of the car next to him.

It's MUCH easier to reverse in than drive forward in & then it's MUCH easier to leave the park.
That may be true if you have a reversing camera and sensors that beep when you get close to something...

My car has the sensors but no reversing camera and a smallish rear window - a 2014 Renault Megane Rally Sport model - with 6 speed manual gearing. I regard it as my best car ever even though I've had several Porsches in the past. I plan to keep it till it dies.
(Worst car ever was a Maserati.)

locky801 wrote:

Lightning McQueen wrote:Has anyone gone to the Fringe Festival yet?

Any recommendations?

Yes, stay away

My wife is planning to drag me off to some show tonight.
Understandable I guess, as she is an actress and a former TV producer for Channel 9 - and still on the odd theatre board.

They still pour a good beer at the Sussex.
(I meet a group of old school mates there for lunch once a month.)

locky801 wrote:

Vamos wrote:Should this thread be renamed to.....nearing 60?

or 70

I'll be 80 come October this year, but no party is planned as my wife and I will be touring Ireland and Wales at the time by hire car.
(And my hair is still brown except at the edges!)

add me as a foe pysber as a test, and i will see what happens, or i will do the same? Will do.
PM me when you have checked and I can undo it.

We're waiting.........................

Just because a bloke says he's going to do something doesn't mean he has to be reminded every 11 years
I'm not sure after so long what diverted me from that plan way back then...
But it wasn't long after that that an old high school friend introduced me to the woman whom I married a few years later. :lol:

My wife and I are off to Germany, Ireland, and Wales for about 5 weeks - mostly motoring around rural Ireland.
Get back late October. I'll have my 80th birthday while driving through rural Wales...

Greetings from Dublin.
My wife and I have just completed a 2500 km anticlockwise drive around Ireland.- from Dublin through northern Ireland and then down the west coast and back to Dublin for a brief rest. Tomorrow we catch the ferry from Dublin to Holyhead in north Wales. Then we hire a car and travel Wales before flying home via Birmingham Frankfurt and Singapore. We drove a Kia Sportage and will get something similar in Wales..

PS: I'll celebrate my 80th birthday driving around Wales...

My wife and I have just come back from driving around Ireland and Wales. We covered about 2500 Km in Ireland and a little less in Wales, driving anti-clockwise about both. The rural roads not much wider than the car were a bit of a challenge - you had to be ready to stop and back up if someone coming the other way on the bends appeared. However, everyone was cooperative and there were no major hassles.

Fuel was expensive - about AU$ 3.60 a litre.

Our first stop in Wales after landing in Holyhead from Dublin by ferry was Llanfair­pwllgwyngyll­gogery­chwyrn­drobwll­llan­tysilio­gogo­goch - a place not to be missed if only for its name!

Went to a Greek restaurant in Henley last night, Estia’s.

Staff were brilliant, food was high quality and well priced, views were spectacular.

Thoroughly recommend
Yes my wife and I went there recently while catching up with old friends who live at Grange.
(The power was out in Grange at the time so we had to find another option.)

Interesting story, thanks. Relevance to Israel currently bombing the shit out of Gaza? :-??
Noted: you rooted a mossad agent
The story was meant to point out there are different points of view and that Israelis may well consider themselves to have previous claim on the land given that Islam emerged only about 600AD, much later even than even Christianity...

The rest of it was adding context to the age of the perspective, and an amusing sideline about how it did make me feel a little uneasy at the time.

mal wrote:Today marks the Unhappy 70th anniversary of the 1/3/1954 Adelaide earthquake

I was 10 years old at the time and cross in the morning because I'd slept through it and missed it.
(My mother had woken and didn't wake me because she thought I would frightened.)

Wedgie wrote:All of your post disappoints me except for the bit about Porsches and European cars.

A change of pace - a month ago we drove around Kangaroo Island in the AWD Kia Seltos I bought for my wife recently. First time I'd ever been to KI.