This should be in the "things that give me the shits" thread

Alan Knott 95 Tests, 4,389 runs at 32.75, 250 catches, 19 stumpings

Adam Gilchrist 96 Tests, 5,570 runs at 47.60, 379 catches, 37 stumpings

but the biggest difference is that Knott is a pom

Channel 9 sports presenter Yvonne Sampson

This from the SAAFL today:
Approved Player Points System
The South Australian Community Football League recently conducted an extensive review of the current permutations of the APPS. A vote at the recent SACFL AGM saw a motion for all recommendations defeated. That being the case, the Rules and Regulation regarding the APPS for 2014 will remain consistent with season 2013. Any recommendations to the SACFL will be considered for season 2015 though must be lodged via the SAAFL prior to the 30th of April 2014.

well, i thought it was funny

I'm guessing there are more teams that wore blacks slacks that didn't win flags than teams that won them

Why are you peeps even responding to marbles' ramblings?

True, I can't believe people are raven about them copying the power

pfft, I spend that on un-stocking the bar

We will be top 4.

Who will they replace?
the only side i could see coming out of the 4 could be freo... or possibly the swans (hope not)... Hawks and Cats aren't going anywhere imho.

Debatable re. Geelong. They lose Hawkins and they are in a bit of strife imo.

Awesome backline and one of the best midfield groups in the comp though which will still see them comfortably in the 8.

One lesson learned re. the cats is you can never write them off.
I think the Hawks might be in trouble if they lose Buddy......oh hang on

Booney wrote:

heater31 wrote:Any danger gentleman of actually discussing the topic title? In case you have forgotten is rumours of players changing clubs....

Rumour has it Steve Summerton is changing clubs.

From Port to Port?

How do you know how Buddha Hocking or the ravens coach feel about losing?

You could click on the link I posted above or:
RETAINED
Danny Butcher
Sam Gray (via AFL rookie draft to Port Adelaide AFL)
Ben Haren
Jake Johansen
Aseri Raikiwasa
Ben Sawford
Steven Summerton
Louis Sharrad
Henry Slattery [leadership player]
Robbie Young

IN
Karl Amon (Sandringham Dragons)
Anthony Biemans (South Barwon)
Travis Boak (Glenelg)
Matthew Broadbent (Woodville-West Torrens)
Darcy Byrne-Jones (Oakleigh Chargers)
Alipate Carlile (South Adelaide)
Dom Cassisi (West Adelaide)
Tom Clurey (Glenelg)
Sam Colquhoun (Central District)
Kane Cornes (Glenelg)
Daniel Flynn (Ireland)
Robbie Gray (West Adelaide)
Hamish Hartlett (West Adelaide)
Mitchell Harvey (North Adelaide)
Campbell Heath (Woodville-West Torrens)
Cameron Hitchcock (Glenelg)
Jack Hombsch (Sturt)
Jarman Impey (Murray Bushrangers)
Tom Jonas (Norwood)
Matthew Lobbe (West Adelaide)
Tom Logan (Glenelg)
Kane Mitchell (Woodville-West Torrens)
Angus Monfries (Sturt)
Andrew Moore (North Adelaide)
Cameron O'Shea (South Adelaide)
Jasper Pittard (Sturt)
Jared Polec (Brisbane Lions/Woodville-West Torrens)
Jarrad Redden (Woodville-West Torrens)
Brent Renouf (Norwood)
Sam Russell (Geelong Falcons)
Jay Schulz (Woodville-West Torrens)
Mason Shaw (South Adelaide)
Lewis Stevenson (Norwood)
Paul Stewart (Woodville-West Torrens)
Justin Westhoff (Central District)
Matthew White (Richmond)
Chad Wingard (Sturt)


OUT
Alex Barns (North Adelaide)
Kory Beard (Sturt)
Ryan Blundell (North Adelaide)
Brett Ebert (retired)
Corey Grove (North Adelaide)
Andrew Hayes (West Adelaide)
Justin Hoskin (Central District)
Daniel Kulikowski (Williamstown)
Sean Lemmens (Gold Coast Suns)
James Meiklejohn (retired)
Zane Kirkwood (Sturt)
Luke Reynolds (Carlton)
Matthew Rose (South Adelaide)
Tom Sandercock (North Adelaide)
Luke Slattery (retired)
Josh Thurgood (Gepps Cross)
James Watt (Sturt)

OnSong wrote:Barmera would have hit their intended target with Dart.

bullseye

1990s, bowlers being allowed to throw

at least you tried to start a constructive thread whufc . seriously what is with people on this site sometimes?

i think the 2000s brought an increase in fielding professionalism in general. almost everyone can field like johnty rhodes nowadays. can remember the west indies and other teams just not caring at all about fielding. India were also particularly bad.

i think the in-out field in test matches is also something that has come in recently, especially a deep point going out early, and as you have mentioned, two back behind square. Clive Lloyd and Viv Richards would more than hold their own with modern day fielders

I think our current coach could do with a few more years experience but he'll learn

Twice sides have been dropped into our (North Haven) division and twice they have made a GF and we have finished third but i think this time it will be different by the sounds of things.

Well for starters I don't fancy our chances of finishing top 3 but i would hate to finish 9th and them 8th

Being relegated is a moot point. By all reports Glenunga were building a very good side that would have likely finished above ninth anyway. D5 just eliminated a serious contender.

Do you think people at Glenunga might be a bit peeved that they were gearing up for a run at the premiership, and now they're gonna be fighting to make finals in Div 4.
No, they would have declined the offer

They should have won more games with 25 out there

the joker wrote:

Mr Beefy wrote:

Useless wrote:united play freeling either this weekend or next weekend

According to their facebook page, Salisbury this week, Freeling the week after

what's their FB page name

ummm..United Football Club

Bombers4EVA wrote:Straight over my head.

Its actually a wolf who looks suspiciously similar to the coyote in the road runner

Straight over my head. :)
Its actually a wolf who looks suspiciously similar to the coyote in the road runner
http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/en/thumb/9/90/Sam_and_Ralph_clock.png/220px-Sam_and_Ralph_clock.png

Wasn't the original Wile.E.Coyote? Never known him as a wolf Mr B
Ralph E. Wolf!
Ralph E. Wolf and Sam Sheepdog (E. like Ethelbert) are characters in a series of animated cartoons in the Warner Bros. Merrie Melodies series of cartoons. The characters were created by Chuck Jones, but here directed by Isadore "Friz" Freleng (as I. Freleng). This short was written by Melvin Millar and features music by Carl W. Stalling.[1]
Ralph Wolf (named after a Warner Bros. employee) has virtually the same character design as another Chuck Jones character, Wile E. Coyote —brown fur, wiry body, and huge ears, but with a red nose in place of the Coyote's black one; (usually) white eyes instead of Wile E.'s yellow; and, occasionally, a fang protruding from his mouth. He also shares the Coyote's appetite, and persistent use of Acme Corporation products, but he covets sheep instead of road runners and, when he speaks, doesn't have the upper-class accent or the egotistical bearing of the Coyote. Another crucial difference is that of personality: Ralph does not have the fanatical drive of the Coyote in pursuing his prey, preferring to abandon his chase at the end of the working day.

Is it greedy for a "big" club to actively recruit the betters players from a "smaller" club?

Q. wrote:What's holding ML back from implementing juniors? Manpower?

Pooraka.....

2013 wasn't a fluke- but calm your farm on top 4. We have Fremantle, Hawthorn, West Coast and Geelong, who in my opinion are still 3-5 goal better sides than us. After what I have seen so far this season, we should be aiming for 5th-6th. Top 4 is still a season or 2 away I reckon.
We're a long way off beating Port at Adelaide Ocal. Far too many injuries to be saying we're a 5 goal better side than the Power at the moment. only a month off

By the way, there are plenty more on the club fb page

Maybe he has factored in the impending merger

It would be a shame to see BOS drop off because they are a quality side and have been for a number of years. I know the games against us in the past were beauties. Really enjoyed the build up to the game and also the game itself. One of the big rivalries in the SAAFL.
Who are you kidding, both of you have only been around for 5 minutes?

And another


And more here
http://umbrelr.com/23-criminals-forgotten-criminal-unbelievable/

zedman wrote:from the bounce..

http://www.saafl.asn.au/uploads/News/pd ... l_2014.pdf

the guy who wrote the piece on rosewater in the div 6 write up must be on crack..how can you get it that wrong? finger on the pulse..

I just read that, very odd indeed.

Div 3 - They made their bed, let them lie in it.

Glenunga a few years ago were losing by 40 goals in both divs (with some players having to play two games, just to ensure both teams played), they dropped divs and were relegated regularly and rebuilt. Teams shouldn't be gifted a way around a few years of pain just to allow them to rebuild quicker
Bit rich coming from a team who has been gifted promotion?
Should it be more about having competitive games in each division rather than punishing a club because they are struggling?

Ingle Farm 16.6 102 defeated Para Hills 5.7 37
Modbury 10.10 70 defeated Pooraka 5.1 31
Rosewater defeated hectorville on forfeit
Trinity OS 7.12 53 defeated Mawson Lakes 5.8 38
Lockleys 11.10 76 defeated Glenunga 7.5 47

Like the bombers and their spending on their supplements program?

What happened mate? I reckon Mawsons wouldve just won by a goal or two if you had of made it.
Forgot your emotion again :P

A bit of Mariah there Phantom?


Does anyone actually believe B4E will actually get it one day? B4E the mighty MPFC don't have a B grade, so morell had little option but to play A's, unless of course he Is dying to play for the crabs :lol: with all those tinder matches, only playing for the crabs might be a good outcome

Bombers4EVA wrote:Its almost pretty simple though. No paying players, more players staying loyal to their local club.

get over not paying players - it aint gonna happen

This is what I have learnt:
Posters from clubs that have big junior numbers say the other clubs need to invest in their juniors, 99% of same posters would have had nothing to do with developing their junior program just played there.
Clubs with big junior programs get better junior players, coaches and support because they are, unsurprisingly, more successful.
Clubs with small junior programs don't like their talented kids being poached by clubs with big junior programs
Bombers4eva thinks noone should get paid for playing
Salisbury are the only club in Australia that don't pay players, yet hand out cash at awards.
Footy Chick doesn't like it when he Clubs in Strife topic leads to posters talking about what gets clubs in strife
Brahma will get smashed in 2014
Kilburn will get smashed into oblivion
PAOC will take over Kilburn Oval *
Some people will leave a club because they have too many wankers - all clubs have too many wankers.

*may have not learnt that

This is what I have learnt:
Posters from clubs that have big junior numbers say the other clubs need to invest in their juniors, 99% of same posters would have had nothing to do with developing their junior program just played there.
Clubs with big junior programs get better junior players, coaches and support because they are, unsurprisingly, more successful.
Clubs with small junior programs don't like their talented kids being poached by clubs with big junior programs
Bombers4eva thinks noone should get paid for playing
Salisbury are the only club in Australia that don't pay players, yet hand out cash at awards.
Footy Chick doesn't like it when he Clubs in Strife topic leads to posters talking about what gets clubs in strife
Brahma will get smashed in 2014
Kilburn will get smashed into oblivion
PAOC will take over Kilburn Oval *
Some people will leave a club because they have too many wankers - all clubs have too many wankers.

*may have not learnt that

You're off topic. I think. Somehow. just summarising the last 20 pages

morell wrote:Would be interesting see their total numbers and any chnages over time though, both before and after the points system.

If anyone from the SAAFL has that data I will crunch it!

Assuming you are talking about player numbers, Quantity <> Quality

Look Good In Leather wrote:
Or maybe Rosewater are breaking the rules and will get burnt

Or maybe you have NFI about how the APPS is applied in the SAAFL, as you have already shown.
I'm happy to show you, or anyone, how someone's points value has been calculated.

Within the SAAFL they are worth 0 points

Delegates need to raise this loop hole at a meeting and close it. Very good exploitation by Rosewater in this case.

I've been working on a bigger loophole.

If Scott Thompson comes to the SAAFL next year he's worth 5 points whoever recruits him as a returning AFL player.

Let's say for the sake of the argument he goes to Houghton and plays Div 7.

in 2015 he would be worth 4 points for Houghton as you lose a point a year.

However, if Tea Tree Gully were to then try and recruit him from Houghton, he's only a 2 point player as a Div4-7 SAAFL player.

This seems to be a bit of a problematic anomaly
Good luck to Houghton on such a coup.
If a club wants to "exploit" this by letting him play a year at another club then good luck to them, he could get injured, he could get poached by big $ in the bush, anything could happen.
Or he could go to North Haven and be 0 points...

beefy i can do it faster

step by step guide

1.Phone: (08) 8443 8999
2.ask for Tony Sullivan
3.give him the list of players and he will tell you the points they come with
Off ya go then

i was posting on how you find out what a player is worth as the SAAFL web page is not that far advanced i would think all clubs would have checked this already with the league rather then do guessing work
I'm not guessing

[quote="Mr Beefy"]:roll: Within the SAAFL they are worth 0 points

This is where I think the amatuer league need to look at changing some of the rules regarding points. At present if you are moving within the amatuer league and have played a grade football at a previous AMATUER league club, then you are worth 2 or 3 points. But if you have played majority b grade at your previous amatuer league club in your final year there than you are worth zero.
This is where it is a silly to me. I think most people will agree that the higher the division the better the standard, therefore the majority of players playing b grade at div 1 or div 2 would more than likely easily slot into a lower divisions a grade. But they are worth zero points with the current system. But if a player coming from say div 6 a grade team wants to try his luck at div 1 or 2 football, he is worth 3 points. Seems a bit backwards to me. This is exactly what has happened at Rosewater this year.
Spot. Freaking. On.

Well done Rosewater, they've seen an opportunity, exploited it and are reaping the benefits.

Rosewater had 3 players that have come from Walkerville play on the weekend..
I wouldn't exactly call that exploiting the system?? Well I guess you would need to accurately define your understanding of the work exploit. IMO 1 player is exploiting the system as they have got a net advantage from it, but it's semantics.

I dont have a problem with anything Rosewater have done, just the opposite in fact. I think they're a smart, extremely well run football club full of good people whom I would like to think we would be looking to emulate one day.

EDIT: and they can do all that without the smarmy arrogant uppity culture of previously successful D6 clubs.[/quote]maybe we need to be successful before we get smarmy arrogant and uppity

The only money he touches is the money he hands over the bar.