R2 Port v Centrals Saturday 1410

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Re: R2 Port v Centrals Saturday 1410

Postby wedgetail » Wed Apr 07, 2021 10:14 pm

bulldogproud wrote:
DOC wrote:"we could always do what the Eagles do and arrange 'employment' for them through a job agency so we don't have to include them under the salary cap..

Every club including yours does this. Nothing illegal or even wrong with this.


True, there isn't; I never said there was. Unfortunately, though, we don't have a job agency as a major sponsor and have a lot of trouble finding employment for players. We have missed out on a number of recruits in the past few seasons as a result. I also know that at least one club the recruits have never spent a day working for their 'employer'; they possibly don't even know who their employer who pays them actually is. This is what I find a bit unethical.
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Re: R2 Port v Centrals Saturday 1410

Postby Alex » Wed Apr 07, 2021 10:21 pm

Dogs will win this one by around 25.
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Re: R2 Port v Centrals Saturday 1410

Postby gazzamagoo » Thu Apr 08, 2021 8:54 am

Alex wrote:Dogs will win this one by around 25.


Surely you need to see who plays for the Power Ressies before making a tip?
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Re: R2 Port v Centrals Saturday 1410

Postby ferret » Thu Apr 08, 2021 9:10 am

DOC wrote:"we could always do what the Eagles do and arrange 'employment' for them through a job agency so we don't have to include them under the salary cap..

Every club including yours does this. Nothing illegal or even wrong with this.


This is absolutely cow droppings. The Eagles players are just entitled to have a job just like any other player in the SANFL. They attend, perform their work and get paid. They do not get paid illegally. Because a sponsor puts them in touch with a potential employer it is not unethical, it's a common practice. They get their normal match payments. In fact North Adelaide and Norwood were prepared to pay considerably more for the Mutch brothers than the Eagles. Don't waste your time on crap.
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Re: R2 Port v Centrals Saturday 1410

Postby DOC » Thu Apr 08, 2021 9:21 am

Which is why I said nothing illegal or wrong.

I was quoting another poster hence the " "

The Mutch brothers through an Adelaide contact went also to South and Glenelg. I have no doubt you offered them the most.
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Re: R2 Port v Centrals Saturday 1410

Postby whufc » Thu Apr 08, 2021 9:22 am

ferret wrote:
DOC wrote:"we could always do what the Eagles do and arrange 'employment' for them through a job agency so we don't have to include them under the salary cap..

Every club including yours does this. Nothing illegal or even wrong with this.


This is absolutely cow droppings. The Eagles players are just entitled to have a job just like any other player in the SANFL. They attend, perform their work and get paid. They do not get paid illegally. Because a sponsor puts them in touch with a potential employer it is not unethical, it's a common practice. They get their normal match payments. In fact North Adelaide and Norwood were prepared to pay considerably more for the Mutch brothers than the Eagles. Don't waste your time on crap.


I would say its extremely intelligent to have an employment agency as a major sponsor. We all know employment is as big a factor as any other for why a player picks a club. If you can improve your ability get players employment you would be stupid not to.

I strongly believe one of the major reasons for Centrals downfall has been our lack of ability to get appropriate employment for potential recruits.
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Re: R2 Port v Centrals Saturday 1410

Postby DOC » Thu Apr 08, 2021 9:25 am

Yep it's very difficult. Made harder by the fact that most have little or no skills (not a criticism just a fact of young blokes starting out) and employers are shy (at times) to put people on without it helping their business. Can't blame them.
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Re: R2 Port v Centrals Saturday 1410

Postby whufc » Thu Apr 08, 2021 9:34 am

DOC wrote:Yep it's very difficult. Made harder by the fact that most have little or no skills (not a criticism just a fact of young blokes starting out) and employers are shy (at times) to put people on without it helping their business. Can't blame them.


Absolutely back in the day Centrals had a strong relationship with the Aquadome. It was a great relationship as personal training/health and fitness industry was a great way for a lot of these young lads to get employment. There was also the added bonus of the uni students being able to complete customer service type roles which fitted into uni well. The business gained the profile of having 'SANFL footballers' as part of their workforce.

I believe that relationship isn't very strong these days for one reason or another.
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Re: R2 Port v Centrals Saturday 1410

Postby gazzamagoo » Thu Apr 08, 2021 9:51 am

whufc wrote:
DOC wrote:Yep it's very difficult. Made harder by the fact that most have little or no skills (not a criticism just a fact of young blokes starting out) and employers are shy (at times) to put people on without it helping their business. Can't blame them.


Absolutely back in the day Centrals had a strong relationship with the Aquadome. It was a great relationship as personal training/health and fitness industry was a great way for a lot of these young lads to get employment. There was also the added bonus of the uni students being able to complete customer service type roles which fitted into uni well. The business gained the profile of having 'SANFL footballers' as part of their workforce.

I believe that relationship isn't very strong these days for one reason or another.

might have had something to do with the little weirdo that worked there, scared everyone off :D :D
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Re: R2 Port v Centrals Saturday 1410

Postby gazzamagoo » Thu Apr 08, 2021 9:52 am

DOC wrote:Yep it's very difficult. Made harder by the fact that most have little or no skills (not a criticism just a fact of young blokes starting out) and employers are shy (at times) to put people on without it helping their business. Can't blame them.

Because employers employ through...........employment agencies.
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Re: R2 Port v Centrals Saturday 1410

Postby goddy11 » Thu Apr 08, 2021 11:12 am

I think I heard last night SPP is back training at PA. Could he be an in on the Weekend.
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Re: R2 Port v Centrals Saturday 1410

Postby Pseudo » Thu Apr 08, 2021 1:54 pm

DOC wrote:Which is why I said nothing illegal or wrong.

I was quoting another poster hence the " "

The Mutch brothers through an Adelaide contact went also to South and Glenelg. I have no doubt you offered them the most.

You're saying the Eagles offered mutch more?
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Re: R2 Port v Centrals Saturday 1410

Postby gazzamagoo » Thu Apr 08, 2021 1:56 pm

Pseudo wrote:
DOC wrote:Which is why I said nothing illegal or wrong.

I was quoting another poster hence the " "

The Mutch brothers through an Adelaide contact went also to South and Glenelg. I have no doubt you offered them the most.

You're saying the Eagles offered mutch more?

I heard they offered Mutch & Mutch much, MUCH more!
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Re: R2 Port v Centrals Saturday 1410

Postby goddy11 » Thu Apr 08, 2021 2:10 pm

gazzamagoo wrote:
Pseudo wrote:
DOC wrote:Which is why I said nothing illegal or wrong.

I was quoting another poster hence the " "

The Mutch brothers through an Adelaide contact went also to South and Glenelg. I have no doubt you offered them the most.

You're saying the Eagles offered mutch more?

I heard they offered Mutch & Mutch much, MUCH more!

There's too Mutch chatter on here about this.
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Re: R2 Port v Centrals Saturday 1410

Postby Wedgie » Thu Apr 08, 2021 2:15 pm

Mutch Ado about Nothing I'd think.
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Re: R2 Port v Centrals Saturday 1410

Postby Booney » Thu Apr 08, 2021 2:27 pm

goddy11 wrote:I think I heard last night SPP is back training at PA. Could he be an in on the Weekend.


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Re: R2 Port v Centrals Saturday 1410

Postby JK » Thu Apr 08, 2021 2:33 pm

gazzamagoo wrote:
Pseudo wrote:
DOC wrote:Which is why I said nothing illegal or wrong.

I was quoting another poster hence the " "

The Mutch brothers through an Adelaide contact went also to South and Glenelg. I have no doubt you offered them the most.

You're saying the Eagles offered mutch more?

I heard they offered Mutch & Mutch much, MUCH more!

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Re: R2 Port v Centrals Saturday 1410

Postby bulldogproud » Thu Apr 08, 2021 3:08 pm

wedgetail wrote:
bulldogproud wrote:
DOC wrote:"we could always do what the Eagles do and arrange 'employment' for them through a job agency so we don't have to include them under the salary cap..

Every club including yours does this. Nothing illegal or even wrong with this.


True, there isn't; I never said there was. Unfortunately, though, we don't have a job agency as a major sponsor and have a lot of trouble finding employment for players. We have missed out on a number of recruits in the past few seasons as a result. I also know that at least one club the recruits have never spent a day working for their 'employer'; they possibly don't even know who their employer who pays them actually is. This is what I find a bit unethical.
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They ran their own business; they were not actually employed by anyone. Cheers
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Re: R2 Port v Centrals Saturday 1410

Postby bulldogproud » Thu Apr 08, 2021 3:12 pm

ferret wrote:
DOC wrote:"we could always do what the Eagles do and arrange 'employment' for them through a job agency so we don't have to include them under the salary cap..

Every club including yours does this. Nothing illegal or even wrong with this.


This is absolutely cow droppings. The Eagles players are just entitled to have a job just like any other player in the SANFL. They attend, perform their work and get paid. They do not get paid illegally. Because a sponsor puts them in touch with a potential employer it is not unethical, it's a common practice. They get their normal match payments. In fact North Adelaide and Norwood were prepared to pay considerably more for the Mutch brothers than the Eagles. Don't waste your time on crap.


It seems irrelevant nowadays how much clubs are willing to pay players, as it is not their football income but their income from their other employer that will have the most impact. Thus, the salary cap may as well be null and void. The club that is in the best position to recruit players nowadays is the club with employers who are in the best position to offer them well-paid employment. For the sake of transparency, should we get rid of the salary cap altogether?
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Re: R2 Port v Centrals Saturday 1410

Postby Alex » Thu Apr 08, 2021 10:08 pm

gazzamagoo wrote:
Alex wrote:Dogs will win this one by around 25.


Surely you need to see who plays for the Power Ressies before making a tip?


No as Rockliff was always likely to be the only material in/out.
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