by Wedgie » Tue Oct 24, 2006 6:53 pm
by Rushby Hinds » Tue Oct 24, 2006 7:22 pm
by sydney-dog » Tue Oct 24, 2006 8:30 pm
by Blue Boy » Tue Oct 24, 2006 9:07 pm
sydney-dog wrote:I'll try not to get too negative about the appointment, but if a key job requirement is to prepare the elite kids to deal with pressures of the draft and the pathway to AFL football, I probably would of targeted someone who has more recent experience and exposure to the AFL systems and environment
by sydney-dog » Tue Oct 24, 2006 10:02 pm
by Blue Boy » Tue Oct 24, 2006 10:24 pm
sydney-dog wrote:Blue Boy
you have missed my point, the media release says a critical function of the role is to manage all elite player pathways, so my question does this job description include the pathway to become an AFL footballer, if it does would a Matty Clarke be a good candidate
if it doesn't and the job is focused on coaching the u/18 state team, then I agree with the appointment
their a similar jobs with the VFL and WAFL and one of the key performance indicators is how many players get drafted to the AFL system, in these roles you find the successful candiate has the right blend of local and AFL experience
NEWSFLASH - mate, sometimes you really need to take the blinkers off
by Blue Boy » Tue Oct 24, 2006 10:29 pm
by sydney-dog » Tue Oct 24, 2006 10:32 pm
by Blue Boy » Tue Oct 24, 2006 10:36 pm
sydney-dog wrote:I was just posing a question, I understand it is a SANFL job, I was just trying to get an understanding on what is the job brief of a Talent Manager and what is the pathway they continue to make rference too, is it a pathway to U/18 National Carnival, or to SANFL ranks or to AFL football, each pathway has different critical elements
Monfries - Thomson - Eckerman - Riesbitsch - Pearce - Bode, all classed as elite U/18, toally agree
by Blue Boy » Tue Oct 24, 2006 10:45 pm
sydney-dog wrote:I was just posing a question, I understand it is a SANFL job, I was just trying to get an understanding on what is the job brief of a Talent Manager and what is the pathway they continue to make rference too, is it a pathway to U/18 National Carnival, or to SANFL ranks or to AFL football, each pathway has different critical elements
Monfries - Thomson - Eckerman - Riesbitsch - Pearce - Bode, all classed as elite U/18, toally agree
by scoob » Tue Oct 24, 2006 11:01 pm
by sydney-dog » Tue Oct 24, 2006 11:05 pm
by am Bays » Wed Oct 25, 2006 8:03 am
Borat wrote:aah good one.
I was talking to a young gun about 10 months ago, he was getting conflicting information and direction from a SANFL coach and a State under age coach, and not getting much guidance on preparing for the draft either.
Back then he really needed this type of position to help him.
by Rushby Hinds » Wed Oct 25, 2006 8:55 am
1980 Tassie Medalist wrote:Borat wrote:aah good one.
I was talking to a young gun about 10 months ago, he was getting conflicting information and direction from a SANFL coach and a State under age coach, and not getting much guidance on preparing for the draft either.
Back then he really needed this type of position to help him.
This job has been around for 20+ years mate, it is the same job Alan Stewart, Russell Ebert, Bruce Winter, and most recently Darren Travena have held...
What wasn't Trevena doing 10 months ago???
by Blue Boy » Wed Oct 25, 2006 10:13 am
sydney-dog wrote:living in Sydney I dont see too many SANFL games other then flying back 4-5 times a year to watch the dogs play, so my mail may not be spot on
obviously Monfries - Thomson - Eckerman - Pearce - yes as they are all on AFL list
Riesbitsch yes, was tipped to be drafted due to his running ability and his results at 2005 draft camp, but missed out, was picked up as a rookie by the Power, question marks over his natural footy instinct
Hurley - yes, Rostrevor boy starred in U/18 championships and was one of 2 SA players to win All Aust selection, the other was Gibbs
Jace Bode - originally from Kenilworth, as a school boy represented SA at athletics in sprinting, as a footballer is considered to be a hard working midfielder, fantastic 2005 u/18 championships, was SA leading possession winner, was tipped to be drafted but missed out, before Melb drafted him on the rookie list
reason ?
by sydney-dog » Wed Oct 25, 2006 7:58 pm
by Jimmy » Thu Oct 26, 2006 6:29 am
by smac » Thu Oct 26, 2006 9:46 am
Yes Jimmy, he is at WCE. Played a handful of games this past season and acquitted himself quite well - not a superstar, but no one expected him to be at this stage. Apparently quite dominant at times in the WAFL, his long goals are becoming a feature of his game as well.Jimmy wrote:where is shannon hurn? is it WCE???
how is he going?
by Rooster Chic » Thu Oct 26, 2006 5:39 pm
by smac » Thu Oct 26, 2006 10:01 pm
He won a SANFL flag only 4 years ago RC! But having said that, I think those with a better coaching CV have a senior coaching job - a position such as this is only ever going to get someone who has been there and done it or hasn't got there yet.Rooster Chic wrote:Travena had a great eye for talent. His selection in the U18 state academay and final team line up has been spot on. While his coaching has not achieved great victory for the young guns, I have to wonder, considering Phillips' non-success with the Double Blues this year, is he really the right person for the job? Surely someone with a slightly better coaching CV could have taken the position....
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