AFL Reserves Discussion...

[kickinit]

Agree with that, but with some AFL clubs struggling financially are they going to be able to afford an increase in salary cap or are the AFL willing to subsidise some coin for them.

Also i think if there was an increase in AFL lists the AFL would most likely go down the path of extending the rookie lists therefore less of a salary cap increase.

Also what we might find is if the AFL reserves go ahead then the lure of playing SANFL may get a fair few back to the SANFL from the country leagues as there will be more spots available.

The SANFL will still be the next tier down from the AFL (as the AFL reserves will be already listed AFL footballers) so footballers will still be only one really good season away from being potentially on an AFL list.

the afl will have to subsidise coin to the teams they still hold the license to. But for teams like the power and crows whose license is held by the sanfl, it means the sanfl will have to hand out the coin to keep them alive. If the teams do go in to a standalone reserves team you can guarantee the AFl won't buy back the license for this exact reason. Pretty much the SANFL clubs will be put into a situation where the only choice for them will be the crows and power having a team in the sanfl.

The afl will be buying the licences in November of this year

if everythng goes the way they want it to. If things don't go the way they want them to eg the crows and power having a reserves side the AFL will see it that the SANFL hold onto those license's and make they are the ones keeping Port and the Crows alive. It will be the same situation some big name sponsor did for the port adelaide one club deal.

[SDK]

Where do most of the AFL reserves play now ? VFL. Put the Crows and Power there too.

[kickinit]

Where do most of the AFL reserves play now ? VFL. Put the Crows and Power there too.

yep I agree and let the sanfl pay for the extra cost. and ensure the sanfl clubs receive no benefit from the 2 afl clubs. sounds like a pretty good outcome for all.

[beenreal]

Where do most of the AFL reserves play now ? VFL. Put the Crows and Power there too.

The VFL is for Victorian clubs. Non Victorian clubs play in their relevant state league affiliates.

[The Sleeping Giant]

Agree with that, but with some AFL clubs struggling financially are they going to be able to afford an increase in salary cap or are the AFL willing to subsidise some coin for them.

Also i think if there was an increase in AFL lists the AFL would most likely go down the path of extending the rookie lists therefore less of a salary cap increase.

Also what we might find is if the AFL reserves go ahead then the lure of playing SANFL may get a fair few back to the SANFL from the country leagues as there will be more spots available.

The SANFL will still be the next tier down from the AFL (as the AFL reserves will be already listed AFL footballers) so footballers will still be only one really good season away from being potentially on an AFL list.

the afl will have to subsidise coin to the teams they still hold the license to. But for teams like the power and crows whose license is held by the sanfl, it means the sanfl will have to hand out the coin to keep them alive. If the teams do go in to a standalone reserves team you can guarantee the AFl won't buy back the license for this exact reason. Pretty much the SANFL clubs will be put into a situation where the only choice for them will be the crows and power having a team in the sanfl.

The afl will be buying the licences in November of this year

if everythng goes the way they want it to. If things don't go the way they want them to eg the crows and power having a reserves side the AFL will see it that the SANFL hold onto those license's and make they are the ones keeping Port and the Crows alive. It will be the same situation some big name sponsor did for the port adelaide one club deal.

I thought the crows and power were the ones buying the license from the sanfl. Don't the license sale has anything to do with afl.

[Wedgie]

do you like trying to be a keyboard warrior, suppose though being a north supporter it's all you know.

Seriously mate, you like to make very poorly structured arguments with everyone about things ranging from football teams to supplements to brands of electronic appliances and you have a go at OTR who invites anyone on here to catch up with him at games and quite often has with dozens and dozens on here calling HIM a keyboard warrior?
I truly am curious if you're just a really really bad troll or just an extremely stupid person?

[LPH]

[RB]

Where do most of the AFL reserves play now ? VFL. Put the Crows and Power there too.

yep I agree and let the sanfl pay for the extra cost. and ensure the sanfl clubs receive no benefit from the 2 afl clubs. sounds like a pretty good outcome for all.

Enlighten us on why on earth the SANFL should be paying for the extra cost...

[SDK]

He dreamt it .... sleeps in boxing gloves too

[whufc]

do you like trying to be a keyboard warrior, suppose though being a north supporter it's all you know.

Seriously mate, you like to make very poorly structured arguments with everyone about things ranging from football teams to supplements to brands of electronic appliances and you have a go at OTR who invites anyone on here to catch up with him at games and quite often has with dozens and dozens on here calling HIM a keyboard warrior?
I truly am curious if you're just a really really bad troll or just an extremely stupid person?

Yep can vouch me and OTR have disagreed many times on here, but has also been a great host when we have caught up at SANFL games!

He could not be further from a 'keyboard warrior'

[sjt]

Pretty simple, leave the system as it is. A load of rubbish that the afl listed players would benefit from the proposal. It would also make it tough for the sanfl clubs with the impact of "top up players".

[kickinit]

Where do most of the AFL reserves play now ? VFL. Put the Crows and Power there too.

yep I agree and let the sanfl pay for the extra cost. and ensure the sanfl clubs receive no benefit from the 2 afl clubs. sounds like a pretty good outcome for all.

Enlighten us on why on earth the SANFL should be paying for the extra cost...

bit of sarcasm mate. The AFL sides going to the VFL is the worse situation for all. The sanfl will have no control over players if they want to go and be a top up player. The crows and power would both need at least 10-15 extra players if they go to the sanfl and guess where they are coming from the sanfl.

[RustyCage]

the VFL has already said there will be no SA team in the VFL

[am Bays]

bit of sarcasm mate. The AFL sides going to the VFL is the worse situation for all. The sanfl will have no control over players if they want to go and be a top up player. The crows and power would both need at least 10-15 extra players if they go to the sanfl and guess where they are coming from the sanfl.

SANFL players being cleared to play in another State League (VFL) need to be cleared by their original club. You assuming that is going to occur readily?

[RustyCage]

bit of sarcasm mate. The AFL sides going to the VFL is the worse situation for all. The sanfl will have no control over players if they want to go and be a top up player. The crows and power would both need at least 10-15 extra players if they go to the sanfl and guess where they are coming from the sanfl.

SANFL players being cleared to play in another State League (VFL) need to be cleared by their original club. You assuming that is going to occur readily?

who needs the clearance?

[kickinit]

bit of sarcasm mate. The AFL sides going to the VFL is the worse situation for all. The sanfl will have no control over players if they want to go and be a top up player. The crows and power would both need at least 10-15 extra players if they go to the sanfl and guess where they are coming from the sanfl.

SANFL players being cleared to play in another State League (VFL) need to be cleared by their original club. You assuming that is going to occur readily?

if a player doesn't have a contract with the club there's really nothing they can do to stop it.

[Reddeer]

Pretty simple, leave the system as it is. A load of rubbish that the afl listed players would benefit from the proposal. It would also make it tough for the sanfl clubs with the impact of "top up players".

That is the common sense thing to happen, but no-one makes those sort of decisions these days

[beenreal]

Pretty simple, leave the system as it is. A load of rubbish that the afl listed players would benefit from the proposal. It would also make it tough for the sanfl clubs with the impact of "top up players".

The "system" isn't going to work if it leave the Crows as the only AFL side without direct control over their players development.

What used to happen isn't relevant, it's what is happening now that counts.

[Strawb]

Most sides want what the VFL sides in a sense have their own Ressies. Geelong have started this through the recent success of the cats in both the AFL and VFL. The difference is Matthew Knights coaches the VFL side and Chris Scott lets him coach the team and has no input in the game day for the VFL.

[The Sleeping Giant]

Lol. You are kidding right.