INS and OUTS 2025

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Re: INS and OUTS 2025

Postby wenchbarwer » Thu Oct 10, 2024 1:58 pm

whufc wrote:Confirmed on official Central District Football Club facebook page Jez McLennan has expressed a desire to join the Magpies.


That's crap, I feel for Doggie fans.

I think he's not AFL standard, 4 years at the Suns and never got a game really says it all.
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Re: INS and OUTS 2025

Postby Booney » Thu Oct 10, 2024 2:02 pm

Former AFL-listed player Jez McLennan will join Port Adelaide’s SANFL list in 2025, boosting the side’s defensive and midfield stocks.

McLennan comes to Alberton from Central District, with the SANFL’s new list guidelines allowing AFL clubs to sign up to four players aged 21 or over.

The 24-year-old earned the Fos Williams Medals on two occasions this year while playing for South Australia, given to the player adjudged best on ground in a state game.

McLennan finished with 24 disposals and eight marks in the SANFL’s win over the VFL in April, and followed up with 25 disposals and seven marks in a 63-point thumping of the WAFL six weeks later.

With four years in an elite environment after being drafted by the Gold Coast in 2018, McLennan will bring valuable experience from the AFL space.

He played 31 VFL and 14 NEAFL games for the Suns before returning to Centrals to play SANFL football over the last two seasons.

The intercepting defender averaged 18.3 disposals, 5.5 marks and 3.3 tackles for the Bulldogs in 2024, and was named at half-back in The Advertiser’s SANFL team of the year.

McLennan was excited for the opportunity to join a new club.

“Playing for Port Adelaide is something I’ve been thinking about for a little while, and I’m excited that it’s now becoming a reality.

“I still believe I’ve got what it takes to be on an AFL list again, and being involved with an AFL club will give me the best possible opportunity to put my best foot forward.

“Port Adelaide is a very accomplished club that has so much history behind it in the SANFL, so I can’t wait to get started and hopefully help move the group forward next year.”

Port Adelaide’s Head of SANFL Paul Stewart was pleased to welcome McLennan to the club.

“Jez is a talented and versatile player who will add important depth and consistency to our group,” Stewart said.

“He can play back and through the midfield and has clear leadership traits, so he will provide great support to our captain and young players.

“Importantly, Jez is a quality person who will fit really well into our program.

“The new rules for AFL clubs are a welcome change to help us build a stronger list and to ultimately become more competitive while we are still participating in the SANFL.”
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Re: INS and OUTS 2025

Postby whufc » Thu Oct 10, 2024 2:04 pm

wenchbarwer wrote:
whufc wrote:Confirmed on official Central District Football Club facebook page Jez McLennan has expressed a desire to join the Magpies.


That's crap, I feel for Doggie fans.

I think he's not AFL standard, 4 years at the Suns and never got a game really says it all.


The post came with a spiel which pretty much was that by being at the PAFC he feels its a step closer to being on an AFL list and that its is a 'better opportunity'

What pisses me off is that this has happened within a couple of days of the decision being made.....surely Edwards knew this was the consequence of his decision and they were aware.
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Re: INS and OUTS 2025

Postby wenchbarwer » Thu Oct 10, 2024 2:05 pm

Waiting for Tom Lewis or Casey Voss to be the next ones to sign now...
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Re: INS and OUTS 2025

Postby wenchbarwer » Thu Oct 10, 2024 2:07 pm

whufc wrote:
wenchbarwer wrote:
whufc wrote:Confirmed on official Central District Football Club facebook page Jez McLennan has expressed a desire to join the Magpies.


That's crap, I feel for Doggie fans.

I think he's not AFL standard, 4 years at the Suns and never got a game really says it all.


The post came with a spiel which pretty much was that by being at the PAFC he feels its a step closer to being on an AFL list and that its is a 'better opportunity'

What pisses me off is that this has happened within a couple of days of the decision being made.....surely Edwards knew this was the consequence of his decision and they were aware.


I said it earlier, they'll prey on the hopes that these boys have of making it back to the AFL.

Can see the likes of Gould, Kobe Ryan, D'Aloia etc. being targeted next
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Re: INS and OUTS 2025

Postby Dogs64 » Thu Oct 10, 2024 2:13 pm

wenchbarwer wrote:Waiting for Tom Lewis or Casey Voss to be the next ones to sign now...

Yes, I was going to say Kobe Ryan or is he a "monty" to get drafted?
They can take 4 but nothing to say they will. They may take less and just pay more to get the couple of players over. They know they don't need too many to be more than competitive. This is all quite "sickening", F%^& the SANFL!
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Re: INS and OUTS 2025

Postby whufc » Thu Oct 10, 2024 2:15 pm

Dogs64 wrote:
wenchbarwer wrote:Waiting for Tom Lewis or Casey Voss to be the next ones to sign now...

Yes, I was going to say Kobe Ryan or is he a "monty" to get drafted?
They can take 4 but nothing to say they will. They may take less and just pay more to get the couple of players over. They know they don't need too many to be more than competitive. This is all quite "sickening", F%^& the SANFL!


My guess would be that they will take 2 higher quality footballers (elite SANFL standard) than say take 4, mid-range role player types.
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Re: INS and OUTS 2025

Postby wenchbarwer » Thu Oct 10, 2024 2:17 pm

Dogs64 wrote:
wenchbarwer wrote:Waiting for Tom Lewis or Casey Voss to be the next ones to sign now...

Yes, I was going to say Kobe Ryan or is he a "monty" to get drafted?
They can take 4 but nothing to say they will. They may take less and just pay more to get the couple of players over. They know they don't need too many to be more than competitive. This is all quite "sickening", F%^& the SANFL!


I think Ryan is in a similar boat to Lewis & Voss. Great SANFL players but don't really have anything in their kitbag to make them stand out at AFL level.

That's by no means a slur, these kids are great footballers.

I mentioned Lewis & Voss as they also keep nominating for the draft each year, and are the same age as McLennan. In reality, the AFL dream is past them, but the Crows & Power can use that lure to suck them in.
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Re: INS and OUTS 2025

Postby am Bays » Thu Oct 10, 2024 2:25 pm

whufc wrote:
Dogs64 wrote:
wenchbarwer wrote:Waiting for Tom Lewis or Casey Voss to be the next ones to sign now...

Yes, I was going to say Kobe Ryan or is he a "monty" to get drafted?
They can take 4 but nothing to say they will. They may take less and just pay more to get the couple of players over. They know they don't need too many to be more than competitive. This is all quite "sickening", F%^& the SANFL!


My guess would be that they will take 2 higher quality footballers (elite SANFL standard) than say take 4, mid-range role player types.


Under the new regulations 4 x SANFL/WAFL/VFL players is $10 K cheaper than a Rookie spot.

They can effectively have 12 players who have been promised a dream on $130K total vying for 2 rookie spots in June

I can see the Port and Crows using this to save money and create a bit of competition for the MSD, hey if you're good enough will elevate one or two of you....
Let that be a lesson to you Port, no one beats the Bays five times in a row in a GF and gets away with it!!!
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Re: INS and OUTS 2025

Postby whufc » Thu Oct 10, 2024 2:32 pm

am Bays wrote:
whufc wrote:
Dogs64 wrote:
wenchbarwer wrote:Waiting for Tom Lewis or Casey Voss to be the next ones to sign now...

Yes, I was going to say Kobe Ryan or is he a "monty" to get drafted?
They can take 4 but nothing to say they will. They may take less and just pay more to get the couple of players over. They know they don't need too many to be more than competitive. This is all quite "sickening", F%^& the SANFL!


My guess would be that they will take 2 higher quality footballers (elite SANFL standard) than say take 4, mid-range role player types.


Under the new regulations 4 x SANFL/WAFL/VFL players is $10 K cheaper than a Rookie spot.

They can effectively have 12 players who have been promised a dream on $130K total vying for 2 rookie spots in June

I can see the Port and Crows using this to save money and create a bit of competition for the MSD, hey if you're good enough will elevate one or two of you....


Huh...

Your saying 12 blokes are going to roughly take $11k a season each to fit into the $130k cap.

I know they are selling to the dream but i would be extremely surprised if any one of them would take such a low amount, especially those relocating from another state.

Have done the math wrong or am i missing something. Top up ammo/country blokes would be on more than $10k a year when you take into account what their home club would be paying them.
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Re: INS and OUTS 2025

Postby am Bays » Thu Oct 10, 2024 2:42 pm

The 18-20 years at a SANFL club would be lucky to get $5000 a year especially if they play Ressies games. Thats 40K

The 4 overs 21s can get a combined $70K

AS I said they are getting dangled a minimum $90 K as a base rookie list player carrot.

I get why 21 year olds leave SANFL clubs especially when they are stuck in the churn of ressies footy - be lucky to make $2-3000 a year. Play good SANFL reserves footy can get 10 x that playing country.

As I've said on here ad nauseum, it's a F***ing disgrace how low SANFL/WAFL and Non-aligned VFL club players are paid and the AFL should fix it!
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Re: INS and OUTS 2025

Postby wenchbarwer » Thu Oct 10, 2024 3:18 pm

Just before Covid the Bays were paying a hundred bucks for reserves games. $1800 per year. Think it was $400 a game for seniors, unless you had a contract that stipulated more.
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Re: INS and OUTS 2025

Postby Aerie » Thu Oct 10, 2024 3:19 pm

am Bays wrote:The 18-20 years at a SANFL club would be lucky to get $5000 a year especially if they play Ressies games. Thats 40K

The 4 overs 21s can get a combined $70K

AS I said they are getting dangled a minimum $90 K as a base rookie list player carrot.

I get why 21 year olds leave SANFL clubs especially when they are stuck in the churn of ressies footy - be lucky to make $2-3000 a year. Play good SANFL reserves footy can get 10 x that playing country.

As I've said on here ad nauseum, it's a F***ing disgrace how low SANFL/WAFL and Non-aligned VFL club players are paid and the AFL should fix it!


Yes, 100% this.

As it stands, the SANFL Commission and AFL Clubs deem it reasonable to have a cap of $70k for Over 21 and $60k for under 21. Let's call that $17,500 per season for over 21 and $7,500 per season for under 21. That is still peanuts compared to the minimum $90k a rookie AFL listed player gets.

A VFL list consists of 28 primary listed players and 12 development listed players, so translate to an SANFL squad.

28 players on $17,500 per year and 12 players on $7,500 per year, that should be a salary cap of around $580,000. The SANFL salary cap for 2025 is set to be $295,000, half of what it should be.

The SANFL Salary Cap in 2004 was $400,000, in the AFL it was $6.12 million.
The SANFL Salary Cap in 2014 was $360,000, in the AFL it was $9.63 million.
The SANFL Salary Cap in 2024 was $345,000, in the AFL it was $15.79 million.
The SANFL Salary Cap in 2025 is $295,000, in the AFL it is $17.7 million.

What if they acknowledged the contribution of the 24 standalone SANFL/WAFL/VFL clubs to the game of football, not only now, but essentially since the game began and contributed to a significant percentage of these clubs salary caps as a way of compensation and growing the game.

The SANFL Salary Cap in 2025 could be $580,000 and lets say the AFL contribute $360,000 of that for all 24 standalone clubs, the AFL cap could be $17.2 million.

That would at least be a start.
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Re: INS and OUTS 2025

Postby am Bays » Thu Oct 10, 2024 3:22 pm

Aerie wrote:
am Bays wrote:The 18-20 years at a SANFL club would be lucky to get $5000 a year especially if they play Ressies games. Thats 40K

The 4 overs 21s can get a combined $70K

AS I said they are getting dangled a minimum $90 K as a base rookie list player carrot.

I get why 21 year olds leave SANFL clubs especially when they are stuck in the churn of ressies footy - be lucky to make $2-3000 a year. Play good SANFL reserves footy can get 10 x that playing country.

As I've said on here ad nauseum, it's a F***ing disgrace how low SANFL/WAFL and Non-aligned VFL club players are paid and the AFL should fix it!


Yes, 100% this.

As it stands, the SANFL Commission and AFL Clubs deem it reasonable to have a cap of $70k for Over 21 and $60k for under 21. Let's call that $17,500 per season for over 21 and $7,500 per season for under 21. That is still peanuts compared to the minimum $90k a rookie AFL listed player gets.

A VFL list consists of 28 primary listed players and 12 development listed players, so translate to an SANFL squad.

28 players on $17,500 per year and 12 players on $7,500 per year, that should be a salary cap of around $580,000. The SANFL salary cap for 2025 is set to be $295,000, half of what it should be.

The SANFL Salary Cap in 2004 was $400,000, in the AFL it was $6.12 million.
The SANFL Salary Cap in 2014 was $360,000, in the AFL it was $9.63 million.
The SANFL Salary Cap in 2024 was $345,000, in the AFL it was $15.79 million.
The SANFL Salary Cap in 2025 is $295,000, in the AFL it is $17.7 million.

What if they acknowledged the contribution of the 24 standalone SANFL/WAFL/VFL clubs to the game of football, not only now, but essentially since the game began and contributed to a significant percentage of these clubs salary caps as a way of compensation and growing the game.

The SANFL Salary Cap in 2025 could be $580,000 and lets say the AFL contribute $360,000 of that for all 24 standalone clubs, the AFL cap could be $17.28 million.

That would at least be a start.


When I say the AFL should fix it I mean the AFL should pay for it it out of the TPP

IMO it should be $10% of an AFL clubs salary cap but I'll settle for 5% ~ $800 K
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Re: INS and OUTS 2025

Postby DOC » Thu Oct 10, 2024 9:17 pm

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Re: INS and OUTS 2025

Postby northerner » Fri Oct 11, 2024 1:18 am

Dogs hopeful of luring a decent ruckman, who unfortunately has little chance of getting regular league in the Club he is currently at.
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Re: INS and OUTS 2025

Postby am Bays » Fri Oct 11, 2024 5:17 am

northerner wrote:Dogs hopeful of luring a decent ruckman, who unfortunately has little chance of getting regular league in the Club he is currently at.

Van Wyk from Norwood?

Been announced on their bookface page he’s leaving to pursue a league opportunity at another SANFL club

He was very good against us I thought in the reserves prelim
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Re: INS and OUTS 2025

Postby Brodlach » Fri Oct 11, 2024 7:49 am

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Re: INS and OUTS 2025

Postby mots02 » Fri Oct 11, 2024 7:50 am

am Bays wrote:
northerner wrote:Dogs hopeful of luring a decent ruckman, who unfortunately has little chance of getting regular league in the Club he is currently at.

Van Wyk from Norwood?

Been announced on their bookface page he’s leaving to pursue a league opportunity at another SANFL club

He was very good against us I thought in the reserves prelim


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Re: INS and OUTS 2025

Postby tnt » Fri Oct 11, 2024 8:34 am

Any news on where Mitch Hardie and James Tsitas are heading next year ?

Also Norwood juniors, Foster and Rowlands were both delisted . Coming back to the SANFL ?
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