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Re: Central v Glenelg 2nd Semi review

Postby NO-MERCY » Sun Sep 21, 2008 11:16 pm

Looks like a straight sets exit coming up for the gay bays. :oops: sorry.
No-doubt Centrals will be hoping to play Glenelg in a fortnights time as Sturt are the only ones that can beat them.
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Re: Central v Glenelg 2nd Semi review

Postby zipzap » Sun Sep 21, 2008 11:17 pm

Mr Irate wrote:You need to read the earlier posts, the girl was allegedly a Centrals supporter.....I don't understand why you're using the term father........


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Re: Central v Glenelg 2nd Semi review

Postby mighty_tiger_79 » Mon Sep 22, 2008 8:41 am

NO-MERCY wrote:Looks like a straight sets exit coming up for the gay bays. :oops: sorry.
No-doubt Centrals will be hoping to play Glenelg in a fortnights time as Sturt are the only ones that can beat them.



well i think glenelg should be able to handle sturt quite comfortably

either way centrals will be winning the flag no matter who they play
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Re: Central v Glenelg 2nd Semi review

Postby doggies4eva » Mon Sep 22, 2008 9:27 am

Pseudo wrote:
dogs01 wrote:What about Hinges hit on Slade in the last quarter,

You mean the hit in retaliation to being choked?


I think the replay clearly shows that Slade was the retaliator - to an deliberate elbow to the head. With all the whining about Schell's legitimate tackle raising the lebow is a serious offence.

For mine I couldn't see why Schell was n't given a free for holding the ball - Rudolph was tackled with the ball and failed to dispose of it - a clear free as far as I am concerned.
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Re: Central v Glenelg 2nd Semi review

Postby FlyingHigh » Mon Sep 22, 2008 9:28 am

Dutchy wrote:well done dogs too good, but Glenelg were shite....not hard to work out the dogs game plan, flood flood flood and make it a close tight contest...hard to understand we couldnt adapt

As for Schell, an abosolutely disgraceful attack on Rudolph, knocking him out in a tackle then going back twice with the shoulder and head to the body when he clearly was laying knocked out unconsious was a disgrace and should be reported by teh league and rubbed out...

and while on it the Dogs have the Umps beautifully bluffed... :roll:


Sorry, Dutchy, after watching the video, think Schell needs to be given the benefit of the doubt.

However, this last part of your post deserves comment - as a neutral supporter thought the umpiring in the first three quarters was some of the most one-sided I've ever seen, and think you could easily come up with plenty of were Centrals got dodgy frees either in front of goal or further up the field that resulted in goals. For instance, Dutshcke ducking his head in the second quarter on the outer wing, the blatant push in the back that was called hlding the ball twenty yards out in the third quarter.

Worse thing is these clowns deserve to be dropped but that will mean they will be umpring the Eagles in the 2's final :(
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Re: Central v Glenelg 2nd Semi review

Postby doggies4eva » Mon Sep 22, 2008 9:38 am

FlyingHigh wrote:
Dutchy wrote:well done dogs too good, but Glenelg were shite....not hard to work out the dogs game plan, flood flood flood and make it a close tight contest...hard to understand we couldnt adapt

As for Schell, an abosolutely disgraceful attack on Rudolph, knocking him out in a tackle then going back twice with the shoulder and head to the body when he clearly was laying knocked out unconsious was a disgrace and should be reported by teh league and rubbed out...

and while on it the Dogs have the Umps beautifully bluffed... :roll:


Sorry, Dutchy, after watching the video, think Schell needs to be given the benefit of the doubt.

However, this last part of your post deserves comment - as a neutral supporter thought the umpiring in the first three quarters was some of the most one-sided I've ever seen, and think you could easily come up with plenty of were Centrals got dodgy frees either in front of goal or further up the field that resulted in goals. For instance, Dutshcke ducking his head in the second quarter on the outer wing, the blatant push in the back that was called hlding the ball twenty yards out in the third quarter.

Worse thing is these clowns deserve to be dropped but that will mean they will be umpring the Eagles in the 2's final :(


I agree that the free 20 metres out was probably a push in the back - asfar as Dutshcke's free, that has been the interpretation all finals. Sturt (Chambers in particular) had the benefit of this the week before. I don't really agree and I think that a lot of players are now ducking their head when the see a tackle coming but at least it is consistent.
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Re: Central v Glenelg 2nd Semi review

Postby Dutchy » Mon Sep 22, 2008 10:31 am

doggies4eva wrote:
Pseudo wrote:
dogs01 wrote:What about Hinges hit on Slade in the last quarter,

You mean the hit in retaliation to being choked?


I think the replay clearly shows that Slade was the retaliator - to an deliberate elbow to the head. With all the whining about Schell's legitimate tackle raising the lebow is a serious offence.



OH FFS again you havent seen the incident have you?, hinge got him high with a coathanger type tackle, nothing like an elbow :roll: free kick was rightfully played but Slade decided to put his forearm across Hinge's throat for a number of seconds.....worst part was the umpire blew his whistle to stop the advantage being paid, everyone stopped, but then changed his mind and let the dogs walk into an open goal...

But back on Slade, at least he picks on blokes that arent knocked out
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Re: Central v Glenelg 2nd Semi review

Postby Jimmy » Mon Sep 22, 2008 10:37 am

dutchy, from an absolute unbiased opinion from the video, you need to give it a rest. now way would he have known he was out for the count....i mean, who the hell knows at any time??? :shock: granted he tried to root him from behind afterwards, but there was absolutely nothing in that...if you think there was something in that, then rudolph needs to complete the package by adding the netball skirt to his ponytail and get out on the court with the t-birds!!!

seriously, give it rest mate, you are sounding like a big sook who lost his big red fire truck.
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Re: Central v Glenelg 2nd Semi review

Postby smac » Mon Sep 22, 2008 10:40 am

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Re: Central v Glenelg 2nd Semi review

Postby Dutchy » Mon Sep 22, 2008 10:46 am

Jimmy wrote:dutchy, from an absolute unbiased opinion from the video, you need to give it a rest. now way would he have known he was out for the count....i mean, who the hell knows at any time??? :shock: granted he tried to root him from behind afterwards, but there was absolutely nothing in that...if you think there was something in that, then rudolph needs to complete the package by adding the netball skirt to his ponytail and get out on the court with the t-birds!!!

seriously, give it rest mate, you are sounding like a big sook who lost his big red fire truck.


thats the beauty of opinions Jimmy....which smac obviously doesnt have on this topic
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Re: Central v Glenelg 2nd Semi review

Postby smac » Mon Sep 22, 2008 10:50 am

Why don't I have an opinion?
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Re: Central v Glenelg 2nd Semi review

Postby Dogwatcher » Mon Sep 22, 2008 10:54 am

FWIW - Schell's tackle was exceptional. If he'd known the bloke was unconscious, I really don't think he would've gone on with it. Who would've have? I know I wouldn't have and the majority of footballers I know wouldn't have.

BTW - someone mentioned Grima's tackling as being overtly rough somewhere amongst this milieu. Nothing wrong with it. That's what the rest of the Bays should've been doing. His tackle on Schell in the first quarter was just brilliant.

As for the 'streakers' an embarassment. Both come from Salisbury, so we can only assume the worst...
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Re: Central v Glenelg 2nd Semi review

Postby Jimmy » Mon Sep 22, 2008 11:03 am

Dutchy wrote:
Jimmy wrote:dutchy, from an absolute unbiased opinion from the video, you need to give it a rest. now way would he have known he was out for the count....i mean, who the hell knows at any time??? :shock: granted he tried to root him from behind afterwards, but there was absolutely nothing in that...if you think there was something in that, then rudolph needs to complete the package by adding the netball skirt to his ponytail and get out on the court with the t-birds!!!

seriously, give it rest mate, you are sounding like a big sook who lost his big red fire truck.


thats the beauty of opinions Jimmy....which smac obviously doesnt have on this topic


you can have an opinion mate, but take off the yellow and black goggles and have a look at the video again...really nothing in it, the only thing you can take away from it is that maybe schelly is confused whether or not rudolph is a bloke or a sheila :wink:

i always appreciate your posts but with this one it needs to be let go. i reckon in a few days you will be over it.
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Re: Central v Glenelg 2nd Semi review

Postby Dutchy » Mon Sep 22, 2008 11:20 am

I am feeling much better this morning :wink:

I just think it didnt need to be done, esp if he had a serious neck/back injury, could have made it much worse...anyway lets move on eh?
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Re: Central v Glenelg 2nd Semi review

Postby Jimmy » Mon Sep 22, 2008 11:25 am

Dutchy wrote:I am feeling much better this morning :wink:

I just think it didnt need to be done, esp if he had a serious neck/back injury, could have made it much worse...anyway lets move on eh?


that's the spirit! :)
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Re: Central v Glenelg 2nd Semi review

Postby sjt » Mon Sep 22, 2008 11:41 am

Dutchy, it wasn't even given a free kick (either way) , no Glenelg player even remonstrated with Schell. Get over it, you're sounding pathetic. Also, yes you may have had the numbers (according to your count) but most of your supporters had laryngitis. The Glenelg supporters in front of the Clem Hill stand were very good early, but didnt say boo in the second half.
I'm sick of some of the whingeing. I had to put up with being one of three Central supporters at school in the Western Suburbs (the other two being my sister and brother). The normal garbage of how many premierships have you won ? And "go back to Elizabeth", even though I live at West Lakes. This happened for years even though I went each week, and most of the other "supporters" couldn't even name five players from their side.
I know you must be hurting from your sides fairly insipid performance, but look at that rather than trying to blame everyone and everything else. I could come up with the same crap I got e.g how many premierships have you won in the last forty years etc, but I wont go there. I don't think I've had enough posts yet to have a valid opinion,
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As far as neutral supporters go. If you wanted a Glenelg Sturt GF go next week make it a crowd of 35,000 to 50,000. Make out it's the "big one". I dont give a stuff. Go U Doggies!
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Re: Central v Glenelg 2nd Semi review

Postby sjt » Mon Sep 22, 2008 11:42 am

Damn Dutchy. You got your posts in before me! Now I look like a tool!
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Re: Central v Glenelg 2nd Semi review

Postby jamdog » Mon Sep 22, 2008 11:53 am

Long time reader but do not post.

On the schell tackle - legitimate tackle as most have agreed.

The next 4-5 seconds of play would happen numerous times in every game of SANFL League football. To expect Schell to know the player he tackled was unconscious is stretching things a bit far.

Look at the video from the 35 to 37 second mark. You will find Schell actually pulls Rudolph to his right so he is underneath him stopping him getting the ball out.
At the 38-39 second mark he pushes on him with his shoulder, hardly over the top in any normal tackle that would take place during a game.

Also from the 36 second mark there was other physical contact on Schell from Thomas. So this would also make it impossible to know Rudolph was unconscious.

More alarming for me was at the 47 second mark. If was so obvious that Schell should have know Rudolph was unconscious why then did his team mate try to pull Rudolph up by the back of the jumper. Fortunately the female Glenelg trainer got to him in time to support his head off the ground. His team mate’s actions were more likely to cause serious / permanent damage to Rudolph than Schell’s actions.

I thought all players had been advise not to try to pick players up off the ground, after an unfortunate incident at an underage game so years ago.

But I am sure you will have a valid thought our rational response to this also.
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Re: Central v Glenelg 2nd Semi review

Postby CedeNullis » Mon Sep 22, 2008 11:59 am

drebin wrote:You don't get it do you Dutchy??? How could Schell have known (in that split second) that Rudolph was knocked out in the tackle and he hardly did anything menacing after he had him pinned to the ground. A couple of half taps which were nothing. Comparing that tackle to a boxing punch is really clutching at straws and being sooky if that's all you can come up with.

Jimmy wrote:dutchy, from an absolute unbiased opinion from the video, you need to give it a rest. now way would he have known he was out for the count....i mean, who the hell knows at any time??? :shock: granted he tried to root him from behind afterwards, but there was absolutely nothing in that...if you think there was something in that, then rudolph needs to complete the package by adding the netball skirt to his ponytail and get out on the court with the t-birds!!!

seriously, give it rest mate, you are sounding like a big sook who lost his big red fire truck.

Spot on drebin and Jimmy.
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Re: Central v Glenelg 2nd Semi review

Postby Dogwatcher » Mon Sep 22, 2008 12:01 pm

jamdog wrote: More alarming for me was at the 47 second mark. If was so obvious that Schell should have know Rudolph was unconscious why then did his team mate try to pull Rudolph up by the back of the jumper. Fortunately the female Glenelg trainer got to him in time to support his head off the ground. His team mate’s actions were more likely to cause serious / permanent damage to Rudolph than Schell’s actions.


In the context of this debate and other head related injuries, this is a really great point.
I've seen blokes trying to pick team-mates up a couple of times in recent SANFL tv matches.
Scary what can happen if you do the wrong thing in that way.
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