by bertiebeatle » Tue Jun 13, 2017 11:46 am
by LMA » Tue Jun 13, 2017 12:07 pm
therisingblues wrote:LMA wrote:So is it about the money or the players. It's pretty hard to fit a squad of 45 players into 22 is my educated guess why they are playing SANFL, not to mention the fact they're not quite up to the level yet. If you're hanging your hat on a couple of players making a difference then the standard of the league may be worse than I thought. Just guessing but I reckon the money recieved from the AFL clubs would offset a couple of 30k transfers (highly inflated considering weekly match payments)
A) Set up in a reserves comp then if it is such a problem for you.
B) In that case, just send Wingard and Pittard over to Carlton. No transfer fees applicable, and it is only a couple of players, if that makes any difference then the standard at Port is much worse off than I thought.
by LMA » Tue Jun 13, 2017 12:10 pm
CUTTERMAN wrote:LMA wrote:So is it about the money or the players. It's pretty hard to fit a squad of 45 players into 22 is my educated guess why they are playing SANFL, not to mention the fact they're not quite up to the level yet. If you're hanging your hat on a couple of players making a difference then the standard of the league may be worse than I thought. Just guessing but I reckon the money recieved from the AFL clubs would offset a couple of 30k transfers (highly inflated considering weekly match payments)
What money from the AFL clubs?
by therisingblues » Tue Jun 13, 2017 1:41 pm
LMA wrote:therisingblues wrote:LMA wrote:So is it about the money or the players. It's pretty hard to fit a squad of 45 players into 22 is my educated guess why they are playing SANFL, not to mention the fact they're not quite up to the level yet. If you're hanging your hat on a couple of players making a difference then the standard of the league may be worse than I thought. Just guessing but I reckon the money recieved from the AFL clubs would offset a couple of 30k transfers (highly inflated considering weekly match payments)
A) Set up in a reserves comp then if it is such a problem for you.
B) In that case, just send Wingard and Pittard over to Carlton. No transfer fees applicable, and it is only a couple of players, if that makes any difference then the standard at Port is much worse off than I thought.
A) IMO a reserves comp could be worse off for the SANFL clubs and survival would be even harder
B) Totally different, there's around 100 draftees per season entering the AFL from many leagues, you're saying that the AFL clubs should pay a transfer fee for every player. Like it or not the SANFL is a feeder comp for the AFL, I understand people don't like change but most of the players are playing there for one reason only, time to accept it for what it is
by Wedgie » Tue Jun 13, 2017 1:55 pm
Armchair expert wrote:Such a great club are Geelong
by therisingblues » Tue Jun 13, 2017 1:57 pm
LMA wrote:CUTTERMAN wrote:LMA wrote:So is it about the money or the players. It's pretty hard to fit a squad of 45 players into 22 is my educated guess why they are playing SANFL, not to mention the fact they're not quite up to the level yet. If you're hanging your hat on a couple of players making a difference then the standard of the league may be worse than I thought. Just guessing but I reckon the money recieved from the AFL clubs would offset a couple of 30k transfers (highly inflated considering weekly match payments)
What money from the AFL clubs?
To my understanding the 2 AFL clubs are paying the SANFL something like $15million for AFL licences over a period of time and the Crows are paying around $300k per year for their reserves team, if this money is not filtering to the other 8 clubs from the SANFL then their is only 1 party to be bitter at here.
by CUTTERMAN » Tue Jun 13, 2017 2:01 pm
LMA wrote:CUTTERMAN wrote:LMA wrote:So is it about the money or the players. It's pretty hard to fit a squad of 45 players into 22 is my educated guess why they are playing SANFL, not to mention the fact they're not quite up to the level yet. If you're hanging your hat on a couple of players making a difference then the standard of the league may be worse than I thought. Just guessing but I reckon the money recieved from the AFL clubs would offset a couple of 30k transfers (highly inflated considering weekly match payments)
What money from the AFL clubs?
To my understanding the 2 AFL clubs are paying the SANFL something like $15million for AFL licences over a period of time and the Crows are paying around $300k per year for their reserves team, if this money is not filtering to the other 8 clubs from the SANFL then their is only 1 party to be bitter at here.
by Corona Man » Tue Jun 13, 2017 2:17 pm
Wedgie wrote:A great photo from yesterday's presidents lunch, tussles between these two were legendary to watch.FB_IMG_1497324263496.jpg
by LMA » Tue Jun 13, 2017 2:26 pm
by LMA » Tue Jun 13, 2017 2:34 pm
therisingblues wrote:LMA wrote:therisingblues wrote:LMA wrote:So is it about the money or the players. It's pretty hard to fit a squad of 45 players into 22 is my educated guess why they are playing SANFL, not to mention the fact they're not quite up to the level yet. If you're hanging your hat on a couple of players making a difference then the standard of the league may be worse than I thought. Just guessing but I reckon the money recieved from the AFL clubs would offset a couple of 30k transfers (highly inflated considering weekly match payments)
A) Set up in a reserves comp then if it is such a problem for you.
B) In that case, just send Wingard and Pittard over to Carlton. No transfer fees applicable, and it is only a couple of players, if that makes any difference then the standard at Port is much worse off than I thought.
A) IMO a reserves comp could be worse off for the SANFL clubs and survival would be even harder
B) Totally different, there's around 100 draftees per season entering the AFL from many leagues, you're saying that the AFL clubs should pay a transfer fee for every player. Like it or not the SANFL is a feeder comp for the AFL, I understand people don't like change but most of the players are playing there for one reason only, time to accept it for what it is
To be sure, our specific complaint is about two reserve entities operating in our league under different rules to us, and an agenda other than winning.
This is being highlighted by reference to transfer fees. It would be exactly the same as Carlton suddenly taking two of your better players and just handing them to another club to be used against you.
You would find these complaints would evaporate as soon as you took your reserve side out of the SANFL.
So if you would be totally cool with handing two of your better players to a rival club for no compensation, then you would have grounds to tell us that it is a fair system.
The problem here is that there are two reserve teams competing with eight fair dinkum passionate clubs, whose chief motive is winning, rather than practice.There are so many of these irregular quirks that we tend just to say "compromised", so of course we will discuss the actual examples when they turn up also.
by therisingblues » Tue Jun 13, 2017 2:51 pm
LMA wrote:therisingblues wrote:LMA wrote:therisingblues wrote:
A) Set up in a reserves comp then if it is such a problem for you.
B) In that case, just send Wingard and Pittard over to Carlton. No transfer fees applicable, and it is only a couple of players, if that makes any difference then the standard at Port is much worse off than I thought.
A) IMO a reserves comp could be worse off for the SANFL clubs and survival would be even harder
B) Totally different, there's around 100 draftees per season entering the AFL from many leagues, you're saying that the AFL clubs should pay a transfer fee for every player. Like it or not the SANFL is a feeder comp for the AFL, I understand people don't like change but most of the players are playing there for one reason only, time to accept it for what it is
To be sure, our specific complaint is about two reserve entities operating in our league under different rules to us, and an agenda other than winning.
This is being highlighted by reference to transfer fees. It would be exactly the same as Carlton suddenly taking two of your better players and just handing them to another club to be used against you.
You would find these complaints would evaporate as soon as you took your reserve side out of the SANFL.
So if you would be totally cool with handing two of your better players to a rival club for no compensation, then you would have grounds to tell us that it is a fair system.
The problem here is that there are two reserve teams competing with eight fair dinkum passionate clubs, whose chief motive is winning, rather than practice.There are so many of these irregular quirks that we tend just to say "compromised", so of course we will discuss the actual examples when they turn up also.
The same people that tell me Port Magpies are there for practice only and don't care about winning are the same people that tell me Port Power only recruit SANFL players to improve their Magpies side. That sounds like a contradiction to me.
by am Bays » Tue Jun 13, 2017 3:05 pm
am Bays wrote:Three things I learnt yesterday:
1. Norths kicking is sh!t!
2. You don't have to be follically challenged to make WTF umpiring decisions
3. We can't afford to be lazy and stop working as a team!
by therisingblues » Tue Jun 13, 2017 3:20 pm
LMA wrote:List management, nothing new there even in Amateurs
by Magellan » Tue Jun 13, 2017 3:26 pm
am Bays wrote:am Bays wrote:Three things I learnt yesterday:
1. Norths kicking is sh!t!
2. You don't have to be follically challenged to make WTF umpiring decisions
3. We can't afford to be lazy and stop working as a team!
Despite saying North skills were shit, it was noticeable that when they had their game plan going (in the third) they looked a better side than us - paint the fence in the back lines, create space in the corridor and then hit the hot spot. I think we got through on having better skills/players on the day.
if North can put four qtrs together of what Carry is trying to do they will be a finals bound team.
Hopefully this tread is now back on track discussing rd 9
by o five » Tue Jun 13, 2017 3:30 pm
o five wrote:Just a quick note that the Prospect RSL on Monday, the kitchen will be open. Chicken curry with rice for $5 and $2 Coffees. And I will be selling the lucky squares at half time of the league, all proceeds go to the Prospect RSL.
Cheap beer, cider, wine softdrink and Port of course. See you all there
by Grenville » Tue Jun 13, 2017 3:36 pm
Corona Man wrote:Wedgie wrote:A great photo from yesterday's presidents lunch, tussles between these two were legendary to watch.FB_IMG_1497324263496.jpg
Yes I saw this last night - great Pic, a couple of handy big blokes!
by Magellan » Tue Jun 13, 2017 4:12 pm
o five wrote:o five wrote:Just a quick note that the Prospect RSL on Monday, the kitchen will be open. Chicken curry with rice for $5 and $2 Coffees. And I will be selling the lucky squares at half time of the league, all proceeds go to the Prospect RSL.
Cheap beer, cider, wine softdrink and Port of course. See you all there
Must apologize for the no curry and coffee on Monday fellow forum members, unfortunately the cook fell ill early Monday morning and was a scratching. Sorry if it was an inconvenience for anyone.
by o five » Tue Jun 13, 2017 4:24 pm
Magellan wrote:o five wrote:o five wrote:Just a quick note that the Prospect RSL on Monday, the kitchen will be open. Chicken curry with rice for $5 and $2 Coffees. And I will be selling the lucky squares at half time of the league, all proceeds go to the Prospect RSL.
Cheap beer, cider, wine softdrink and Port of course. See you all there
Must apologize for the no curry and coffee on Monday fellow forum members, unfortunately the cook fell ill early Monday morning and was a scratching. Sorry if it was an inconvenience for anyone.
The bigger inconvenience was not calling my lucky number out!
by Hazydog » Tue Jun 13, 2017 4:28 pm
Corona Man wrote:Wedgie wrote:A great photo from yesterday's presidents lunch, tussles between these two were legendary to watch.FB_IMG_1497324263496.jpg
Yes I saw this last night - great Pic, a couple of handy big blokes!
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