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Re: AFL RESERVES

Postby beenreal » Fri May 25, 2012 1:46 pm

RB wrote:Rucci is wrong to equate the SANFL sides having reserve sides in the SANFL reserves with AFL sides having reserves sides in the SANFL. The key point is that the SANFL reserves competition is part of the SANFL, and its purpose is, and crucially has always been, to field the League teams' 2nd XVIIIs. Whereas the SANFL is not part of the AFL; it is a serious competition in its own right and should not contain reserves sides for an external competition. For me, the staggering thing is why on earth has Rucci for the last few years been absolutely unyielding in his determination to destroy the SANFL? What he's doing is called treachery for mine.


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Re: AFL RESERVES

Postby Booney » Fri May 25, 2012 1:55 pm

RB wrote:Rucci is wrong to equate the SANFL sides having reserve sides in the SANFL reserves with AFL sides having reserves sides in the SANFL. The key point is that the SANFL reserves competition is part of the SANFL, and its purpose is, and crucially has always been, to field the League teams' 2nd XVIIIs. Whereas the SANFL is not part of the AFL; it is a serious competition in its own right and should not contain reserves sides for an external competition. For me, the staggering thing is why on earth has Rucci for the last few years been absolutely unyielding in his determination to destroy the SANFL? What he's doing is called treachery for mine.


The almost palpable irony in all of this, is that it is Port supporters who first established what a weazel this bloke is and listen to nothing he has to say, all the while people like yourself mop it up and become infuriated by it all.

You do know he doesn't have anything to do with anything, dont you? He doesn't run the PAFC, the PAMFC, the AFC, the SANFL or AFL. Much to his dislike.
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Re: AFL RESERVES

Postby RB » Fri May 25, 2012 1:57 pm

OK it sounds a bit paranoid, but it's treachery in the sense that he earnt part of his living off the SANFL for a long time, he's been a fan of Port for decades, and now he's advocating for AFL reserves teams to ruin our league.
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Re: AFL RESERVES

Postby RB » Fri May 25, 2012 2:01 pm

Booney wrote:You do know he doesn't have anything to do with anything, dont you? He doesn't run the PAFC, the PAMFC, the AFC, the SANFL or AFL. Much to his dislike.


No, but he does have great influence being the Chief Football Writer for the Advertiser. But anyway, that's beside the point. I don't think I'm the only one frustrated at his crusade, even if he doesn't have anything to do with anything.
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Re: AFL RESERVES

Postby Booney » Fri May 25, 2012 3:12 pm

RB wrote:
Booney wrote:You do know he doesn't have anything to do with anything, dont you? He doesn't run the PAFC, the PAMFC, the AFC, the SANFL or AFL. Much to his dislike.


No, but he does have great influence being the Chief Football Writer for the Advertiser. But anyway, that's beside the point. I don't think I'm the only one frustrated at his crusade, even if he doesn't have anything to do with anything.


He reports on issues not influences them. Dont be mistaken.
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Re: AFL RESERVES

Postby PhilH » Fri May 25, 2012 3:33 pm

Its easy to point out problems, especially in a structure, that no matter how you do it, wont be perfect for everyone.

I dont think a majority of 'SANFL diehards' have a real issue if the Crows or Power have a reserves side or not.

But we are all united in oppossing anythought of that AFL reserves side playing in the SANFL LEAGUE competition.


Looks like he is running out of issues to highlight if he goes off on a tangent like this.


I'll pay more attention to him when he comes up with his preferred solution and why we should run with it.

He has already said on air that he doesnt think AFL reserves sides should compromise the SANFL league comp
so if that is the case what is his solution???
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Re: AFL RESERVES

Postby RB » Fri May 25, 2012 4:04 pm

Booney wrote:
RB wrote:
Booney wrote:You do know he doesn't have anything to do with anything, dont you? He doesn't run the PAFC, the PAMFC, the AFC, the SANFL or AFL. Much to his dislike.


No, but he does have great influence being the Chief Football Writer for the Advertiser. But anyway, that's beside the point. I don't think I'm the only one frustrated at his crusade, even if he doesn't have anything to do with anything.


He reports on issues not influences them. Dont be mistaken.


Obviously he does not influence those who make these decisions, but I would be surprised if he didn't have any influence on his readers. It's many of those readers collectively who in turn influence the decision makers.
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Re: AFL RESERVES

Postby tipper » Fri May 25, 2012 4:09 pm

Booney wrote:
RB wrote:
Booney wrote:You do know he doesn't have anything to do with anything, dont you? He doesn't run the PAFC, the PAMFC, the AFC, the SANFL or AFL. Much to his dislike.


No, but he does have great influence being the Chief Football Writer for the Advertiser. But anyway, that's beside the point. I don't think I'm the only one frustrated at his crusade, even if he doesn't have anything to do with anything.


He invents issues to report on, not influences them. Dont be mistaken.


fixed that for you ;)
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Re: AFL RESERVES

Postby Reddeer » Fri May 25, 2012 8:48 pm

RB wrote:Rucci is wrong to equate the SANFL sides having reserve sides in the SANFL reserves with AFL sides having reserves sides in the SANFL. The key point is that the SANFL reserves competition is part of the SANFL, and its purpose is, and crucially has always been, to field the League teams' 2nd XVIIIs. Whereas the SANFL is not part of the AFL; it is a serious competition in its own right and should not contain reserves sides for an external competition. For me, the staggering thing is why on earth has Rucci for the last few years been absolutely unyielding in his determination to destroy the SANFL? What he's doing is called treachery for mine.

It is because he is an absolute dill, no doubt at all about that. Writes a load of tripe. Just don't read the garbage.
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Re: AFL RESERVES

Postby MATT IN WA » Fri May 25, 2012 8:59 pm

Reddeer wrote:
RB wrote:Rucci is wrong to equate the SANFL sides having reserve sides in the SANFL reserves with AFL sides having reserves sides in the SANFL. The key point is that the SANFL reserves competition is part of the SANFL, and its purpose is, and crucially has always been, to field the League teams' 2nd XVIIIs. Whereas the SANFL is not part of the AFL; it is a serious competition in its own right and should not contain reserves sides for an external competition. For me, the staggering thing is why on earth has Rucci for the last few years been absolutely unyielding in his determination to destroy the SANFL? What he's doing is called treachery for mine.

It is because he is an absolute dill, no doubt at all about that. Writes a load of tripe. Just don't read the garbage.

Exactly, in fact, just don't buy that fish wrapper.
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Re: AFL RESERVES

Postby Easy Miss » Sat May 26, 2012 10:14 am

Booney wrote:
RB wrote:
Booney wrote:You do know he doesn't have anything to do with anything, dont you? He doesn't run the PAFC, the PAMFC, the AFC, the SANFL or AFL. Much to his dislike.


No, but he does have great influence being the Chief Football Writer for the Advertiser. But anyway, that's beside the point. I don't think I'm the only one frustrated at his crusade, even if he doesn't have anything to do with anything.


He reports on issues not influences them. Dont be mistaken.


I disagree his interview with aami stadium was very influential :-)

I Can't believe a news limited journalist is being accused of having an agenda to influence the masses. Be fair guys.
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Re: AFL RESERVES

Postby JK » Sat May 26, 2012 11:36 am

Booney wrote:You do know he doesn't have anything to do with anything, dont you? He doesn't run the PAFC, the PAMFC, the AFC, the SANFL or AFL. Much to his dislike.


I wouldn't say that .. He has a lot to do with influencing a significant portion of the state's football supporting public.

Perhaps not those with close connection to their clubs, but sadly I think those supporters form the minority.
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Re: AFL RESERVES

Postby holden78 » Sun May 27, 2012 10:42 am

Reddeer wrote:
RB wrote:Rucci is wrong to equate the SANFL sides having reserve sides in the SANFL reserves with AFL sides having reserves sides in the SANFL. The key point is that the SANFL reserves competition is part of the SANFL, and its purpose is, and crucially has always been, to field the League teams' 2nd XVIIIs. Whereas the SANFL is not part of the AFL; it is a serious competition in its own right and should not contain reserves sides for an external competition. For me, the staggering thing is why on earth has Rucci for the last few years been absolutely unyielding in his determination to destroy the SANFL? What he's doing is called treachery for mine.

It is because he is an absolute dill, no doubt at all about that. Writes a load of tripe. Just don't read the garbage.

That will do us, what Reddeer said! :twisted:
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Re: AFL RESERVES

Postby holden78 » Sun May 27, 2012 10:52 am

Watched some of Collingwood/Crows until it dawned on me a bloody Rugby League game had broken out between them, so I ofcoarse did the only thing that could possibly save me and flicked straight over to the adult channel while waking up the girlfriend! That SA v WA was far more of a Football match for my money, but heh I'm biased obviously :) No Rucci and No AFL, MORE Sex and More SANFL!
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Re: AFL RESERVES

Postby CENTURION » Sun May 27, 2012 10:54 am

Alas, The AFL has turned into a mad scramble, LONG LIVE THE SANFL!!
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Re: AFL RESERVES

Postby Navy2005 » Mon May 28, 2012 2:35 pm

AFL Clubs want to have control over their players.

State League Clubs want to be able to focus on winning not be AFL nurseries.

The only sensible thing to do is to form a national AFL Reserves competition.

The other upside to this is the people forking out the money to go along to AFL matches would get at least get the opportunities to see two games of footy for their money.

With the amount of money the AFL has surely this is an affordable options for them that would keep all parties happy.

What are other peoples thoughts on this?
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Re: AFL RESERVES

Postby CUTTERMAN » Mon May 28, 2012 4:28 pm

It would be the best for everyone but I can't see the AFL doing anything about it until they've used it as a way of control over the SANFL to push one of their many agendas through, ie the two AFL licences.
Also if this was to be the format I still want to know what would happen to Port Magpies.
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Re: AFL RESERVES

Postby Sojourner » Wed May 30, 2012 1:42 pm

If what is reported is true and the AFC, PAFC, WCFC and FFC all want to have Reserves teams, what prevents them from having their own comp outside of the VFL? Each state has a home match each week that two sides could play as a preview for, and there is no problem playing matches on Max Basheer Reserve if they wish too. Oraganising four sides to play one another every four weeks cant be such a great insurmountable problem?
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Re: AFL RESERVES

Postby The Sleeping Giant » Wed May 30, 2012 3:51 pm

Cost the clubs too much money. Much cheaper to take over an established team in a local comp.
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Re: AFL RESERVES

Postby CUTTERMAN » Wed May 30, 2012 7:27 pm

might work with some funding from the AFL, not such a bad idea, would be more cost efficient with the VFL for the SA AFL clubs but would leave the WA AFL clubs out of the loop. the only real answer is a fully fledged AFL Reserves comp.
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