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Re: SANFL talent goes un-noticed at the NAB AFL Draft

Postby Gravel » Sun Nov 25, 2007 9:50 am

Perhaps the SANFL administrators need to allocate more funding to junior development in SA and less on corporate facilities at AAMI ?
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Re: SANFL talent goes un-noticed at the NAB AFL Draft

Postby Whitelinefever » Sun Nov 25, 2007 10:23 am

Actually, probably one of the reasons sides started recruiting in the first place was because the expectation that young guys coming through the ranks would get taken.
Look at west a couple of years ago, they had some outstanding juniors, cooney, Beau Waters ect.
Talk about a strong year for the sANFL, I saw some footage of a teal cup side from yesteryear, as they ran out on the field it was a whos who, Platten, Bradely, Motely, Kernahan, Anderson and others from memory like Russell.
Would of just about been the best group of young talent ever assembled in the one team.
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Re: SANFL talent goes un-noticed at the NAB AFL Draft

Postby Pag » Sun Nov 25, 2007 11:55 am

I think the Under 18 team of 95(?) had about 11 or 12 go, including Dew, Tredrea, Crouch, Fosdike and others I can't remember off the top of my head...
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Re: SANFL talent goes un-noticed at the NAB AFL Draft

Postby manny » Sun Nov 25, 2007 12:12 pm

Didnt the AFL pull the plug on money for junior development in SA a few years back because they wanted our (SANFL) salary cap reduced and we wouldnt come to the party?
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Re: SANFL talent goes un-noticed at the NAB AFL Draft

Postby smac » Sun Nov 25, 2007 1:04 pm

manny wrote:Didnt the AFL pull the plug on money for junior development in SA a few years back because they wanted our (SANFL) salary cap reduced and we wouldnt come to the party?

Yes, but it was reinstated (and has subsequently increased further) since then.
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Re: SANFL talent goes un-noticed at the NAB AFL Draft

Postby manny » Sun Nov 25, 2007 1:18 pm

Cheers SMAC.
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Re: SANFL talent goes un-noticed at the NAB AFL Draft

Postby Macca19 » Sun Nov 25, 2007 1:43 pm

Pag wrote:I think the Under 18 team of 95(?) had about 11 or 12 go, including Dew, Tredrea, Crouch, Fosdike and others I can't remember off the top of my head...


Paul Evans, P Burgoyne, Tom Carr as well.
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Re: SANFL talent goes un-noticed at the NAB AFL Draft

Postby centrecirclelegend » Sun Nov 25, 2007 3:22 pm

hey so they took a lot of west aussies
so what
what do you think that is going to do to the wafl with a lot of their top youngsters going interstate?
the sanfl will only be stronger and still be the envy of other leagues still
what gets me is these boys are picked and rated playing against themselves and their own age
our lads if they are good enough play against men in the sanfl
ready made to play afl in most cases
not enough emphasis is placed on this by the scouts imo
I'll walk to china if Nick Salter or Jared Petrenko are not better than most of those drafted yesterday!
you watch what the local rookie draft will produce this year in coming years
my bet there are a couple of gems in there that will turn out better than most of what was picked yesterday!
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Re: SANFL talent goes un-noticed at the NAB AFL Draft

Postby doggod » Sun Nov 25, 2007 9:05 pm

Very surprised that the Crows continue to overlook SA talent - especially when they need tall forward types and the likes of Salter, Westhoff, Obst (who they ditched too early), etc are running around. Luckily for young Westy Port have noticed him but those other 2 are dead unlucky.
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Re: SANFL talent goes un-noticed at the NAB AFL Draft

Postby LBT » Sun Nov 25, 2007 9:07 pm

doggod wrote:Very surprised that the Crows continue to overlook SA talent - especially when they need tall forward types and the likes of Salter, Westhoff, Obst (who they ditched too early), etc are running around. Luckily for young Westy Port have noticed him but those other 2 are dead unlucky.

Both will get rookied i reckon.
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Re: SANFL talent goes un-noticed at the NAB AFL Draft

Postby johntheclaret » Sun Nov 25, 2007 11:06 pm

Maybe I'm missing the point here, but I wouldn't be too unhappy if none of Norths players got drafted.

Would be happy to keep Cubillo, White, Motlop at Prossie along with Gallman, Delvins etc.
IMHO the draft onlt weakens the SANFL and I am more interested in a strong State league than a strong AFL.
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Re: SANFL talent goes un-noticed at the NAB AFL Draft

Postby oldfella » Sun Nov 25, 2007 11:37 pm

JTC --- I feel you have got it right -- a big thumbs up from me for your comment

"IMHO the draft only weakens the SANFL and I am more interested in a strong State league than a strong AFL."
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Re: SANFL talent goes un-noticed at the NAB AFL Draft

Postby Macca19 » Mon Nov 26, 2007 9:02 am

With 4 players getting pissed and being dropped the week of the champs, and SA having a terrible champ result, it was always going to be slim pickings this year. Whatever team has a terrible champs ends up having minimal draftees that year. It happened to us a few years back as well, we only had 2 picked up. It happened to WA not that long ago as well. Look at Qld, they had 15 draftees in the last two years, this year only 2. It is cyclical.

It does mean that our youngsters get to stay in the SANFL for a while longer (if forever), but it also means that clubs miss out on compensation money for draftees as well.

Our youngsters perform at the Champs next year and more will get picked up. Im expecting the rookie draft to be full of SA players this year to be honest. Im expecting another -10 to possibly be drafted.
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Re: SANFL talent goes un-noticed at the NAB AFL Draft

Postby Jar Man Out » Mon Nov 26, 2007 1:28 pm

johntheclaret wrote:Maybe I'm missing the point here, but I wouldn't be too unhappy if none of Norths players got drafted.

Would be happy to keep Cubillo, White, Motlop at Prossie along with Gallman, Delvins etc.
IMHO the draft onlt weakens the SANFL and I am more interested in a strong State league than a strong AFL.


This is a contradiction Im afraid. If the SANFL thought this way why commit the juniors of this state to the draft at all ?????
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Re: SANFL talent goes un-noticed at the NAB AFL Draft

Postby Jar Man Out » Mon Nov 26, 2007 1:41 pm

smac wrote:
Jar Man Out wrote:NOT FOR THE FIRST YEAR. WONT BE LAST.

IVE TRIED TO WARN YOU.

No you haven't. You've been telling us about inequities on a State by State basis.

If SA based footballers aren't up to it, they won't be drafted. That's all about the talent pathways and development programs. Hopefully they get smartened up a little.


I have mentioned on atleast 100 occasions SA kids are discrimanted against and have a genuine lack of exposure in the AFL system in comparison to other states.

The only thing that changes are the excuses as to why this occurs year in and year out.

Last year we got out drafted by Queensland. This year we had 4 kids deemed afl standard.

any alarm bells ringing yet gentleman ????? or shall we just keep saying to ourselves the SANFL is awesome.
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Re: SANFL talent goes un-noticed at the NAB AFL Draft

Postby Punk Rooster » Mon Nov 26, 2007 1:54 pm

Jar Man Out wrote:
johntheclaret wrote:Maybe I'm missing the point here, but I wouldn't be too unhappy if none of Norths players got drafted.

Would be happy to keep Cubillo, White, Motlop at Prossie along with Gallman, Delvins etc.
IMHO the draft onlt weakens the SANFL and I am more interested in a strong State league than a strong AFL.


This is a contradiction Im afraid. If the SANFL thought this way why commit the juniors of this state to the draft at all ?????

he's saying he's happy they weren't drafted.
he didn't say they shouldn't be drafted.
Big diference.
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Re: SANFL talent goes un-noticed at the NAB AFL Draft

Postby MagareyLegend » Mon Nov 26, 2007 6:25 pm

SANFL clubs should be restricted to adding two players outside of their club zone each year - that includes interstate & intrastate clubs and watch how soon that would make a difference. That is why the WAFL is fast becoming the AFL breeding ground because geographically they find it difficult to attract has-been AFL players to play WAFL so they have to develop and play juniors. It is too easy for the rich SANFL clubs (eg CDFC, WAFC, NAFC & SAFC) to get "ready-made" imports rather than play juniors from their grades on an early and regular basis.
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Re: SANFL talent goes un-noticed at the NAB AFL Draft

Postby BPBRB » Mon Nov 26, 2007 9:23 pm

MagareyLegend wrote:SANFL clubs should be restricted to adding two players outside of their club zone each year - that includes interstate & intrastate clubs and watch how soon that would make a difference. That is why the WAFL is fast becoming the AFL breeding ground because geographically they find it difficult to attract has-been AFL players to play WAFL so they have to develop and play juniors. It is too easy for the rich SANFL clubs (eg CDFC, WAFC, NAFC & SAFC) to get "ready-made" imports rather than play juniors from their grades on an early and regular basis.


What a load of crap!!!
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Re: SANFL talent goes un-noticed at the NAB AFL Draft

Postby Psyber » Mon Nov 26, 2007 11:05 pm

BPBRB wrote:
MagareyLegend wrote:SANFL clubs should be restricted to adding two players outside of their club zone each year - that includes interstate & intrastate clubs and watch how soon that would make a difference. That is why the WAFL is fast becoming the AFL breeding ground because geographically they find it difficult to attract has-been AFL players to play WAFL so they have to develop and play juniors. It is too easy for the rich SANFL clubs (eg CDFC, WAFC, NAFC & SAFC) to get "ready-made" imports rather than play juniors from their grades on an early and regular basis.


What a load of crap!!!

Makes sense to me. Buy recycled players, don't develop the local talent, nobody to draft.
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Re: SANFL talent goes un-noticed at the NAB AFL Draft

Postby BPBRB » Tue Nov 27, 2007 7:34 am

Psyber wrote:
BPBRB wrote:
MagareyLegend wrote:SANFL clubs should be restricted to adding two players outside of their club zone each year - that includes interstate & intrastate clubs and watch how soon that would make a difference. That is why the WAFL is fast becoming the AFL breeding ground because geographically they find it difficult to attract has-been AFL players to play WAFL so they have to develop and play juniors. It is too easy for the rich SANFL clubs (eg CDFC, WAFC, NAFC & SAFC) to get "ready-made" imports rather than play juniors from their grades on an early and regular basis.


What a load of crap!!!

Makes sense to me. Buy recycled players, don't develop the local talent, nobody to draft.


All of the above mentioned clubs have introduced plenty of juniors to Senior football and in West's case they have been hit hard by the AFL in recent years. Do you suggest they just develop juniors for the chance to play one year if they are lucky before being taken way into the draft. The reality is that SANFL clubs have to recruit "recycled" players to keep a reasonable base of experience at a club whilst at the same time developing players.
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