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Re: changes needed at Alberton!

Postby djd » Tue Apr 15, 2008 8:32 am

leonidis wrote:
leonidis wrote:and whats the go with Hargraves?

this is all i said because he was disappointing in the first couple weeks, this just goes to show what hes capable of and he needs to be more consistant.
I still think Ahchee deserves the 3 votes, he won us the game.
Only got there at half time in the ressies and Harder played well again and is continuing to put his hand up for league selection. I was also impressed with Dolling. harry M showed glimpses but still needs to show more in my opinion before he gets a recall.
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yes iam leo, no he wont be. still completing his accounting degree, we may still get him for a few games. you said jack nelligan has been going well, what about caleb howell?
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Re: changes needed at Alberton!

Postby leonidis » Tue Apr 22, 2008 10:49 pm

caleb is currently not in the top echelon of players in the port u/19s. with such a huge squad there is going to be heaps of rotations from week to week which makes it hard for the players not knowing from week to week whether they will be getting a go and it also makes it hard for the guys to get to know how one another plays and gel together. i feel the coaching staff need to cull the squad of nearly 50 so some of these fringe players know whether they are here or there. not so much of an issue for the local adelaide lads but definately more of an issue for the country lads, some of which have only moved over just to have a crack at the footy. it does seem like a high standard squad this year at port in the 19s, as the results so far show.

maybe as the senior side keeps getting roled people might start taking notice of some of my comments and start giving some of these quality young lads a chance at the big time as Ginever himself stated in the press. i know buzz has previously backed me up on this. can't say much for heater and pafc1870-who judging from his username is still living in the past and maybe struggles with the thought of rebuilding to move forward and go ahead.
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Re: changes needed at Alberton!

Postby heater31 » Tue Apr 22, 2008 10:57 pm

leonidis wrote:
maybe as the senior side keeps getting roled people might start taking notice of some of my comments and start giving some of these quality young lads a chance at the big time as Ginever himself stated in the press. i know buzz has previously backed me up on this. can't say much for heater and pafc1870-who judging from his username is still living in the past and maybe struggles with the thought of rebuilding to move forward and go ahead.



well if Hargraves and a few others kicked straight your mob would have won the game and lost me a 20! Now I was there on Sunday for half of the reserves and the league. Blooding a few inexperienced guys along with the experience is the best way to rebuild.

get rid of Miller he is useless and most Port fans around me on Sunday agree with me.
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Re: changes needed at Alberton!

Postby leonidis » Tue Apr 22, 2008 11:02 pm

heater31 wrote:Blooding a few inexperienced guys along with the experience is the best way to rebuild.

get rid of Miller he is useless and most Port fans around me on Sunday agree with me.

bloody hell.......that is what i have been f*#king saying!!!!!!!!!!!!!

and for miller, hes a nice enough bloke but seems to have lost interest and it is frustrating for fans watching this. however to hurl abuse at him during and after games is a bit harsh i think.
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Re: changes needed at Alberton!

Postby heater31 » Tue Apr 22, 2008 11:09 pm

leonidis wrote:
heater31 wrote:Blooding a few inexperienced guys along with the experience is the best way to rebuild.

get rid of Miller he is useless and most Port fans around me on Sunday agree with me.

bloody hell.......that is what i have been f*#king saying!!!!!!!!!!!!!


bullshite buddy you have been calling for these kids (or your mates :wink: ) to be playing Key Positions better than the experienced blokes like Achee, Hargraves, Clayton x 2 etc. Grove in the reserves did not get a kick of what I saw of him admitted than the ball did not get into the forward line very much. If you struggle to get the ball in the reserves with limited opportunities how in hell are you going to get a kick with the likes of Schubert, McIntyre etc breathing down your neck.
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Re: changes needed at Alberton!

Postby RustyCage » Wed Apr 23, 2008 3:36 am

leonidis wrote: pafc1870-who judging from his username is still living in the past and maybe struggles with the thought of rebuilding to move forward and go ahead.


Ok Leonidis. I'll give you some names. Watson, Kirkwood, Wait, Clinche, Taylor. Some very good young kids who will play a lot of senior games of footy at Alberton. Add Mardling, Summerton, Dolling, Greenwood, Ebert to that list, and it shows that the players who deserve to get a senior game will do so when required. Also shows that the young players are given equal go, as compared with the older players.

Rebuilding is one thing, but just giving people who dont yet deserve a go in a team that is currently playing some very good football with a many walk up starts out injured, thats just stupid.

We aren't rebuilding. We have a very good squad.
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Re: changes needed at Alberton!

Postby RustyCage » Wed Apr 23, 2008 3:45 am

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Re: changes happening at Alberton!

Postby beenreal » Wed Apr 23, 2008 3:07 pm

Great article by Matt Richardson. Even getting some of those "outs" will have a major positive impact on our team structure. Look out in the latter half of the season!
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Re: changes happening at Alberton!

Postby Slots It Through » Wed Apr 23, 2008 4:51 pm

beenreal wrote:Great article by Matt Richardson. Even getting some of those "outs" will have a major positive impact on our team structure. Look out in the latter half of the season!


Spot on it was a very good article. I was at the luncheon on Sunday and Richo was spot on with what he said. The club has a heap of kids and with a heap of kids comes inconsistancy, and it will take time. The hard thing is that this is a football club that doesnt accept losing and not being successful. The kids get a go and are expected to perform. There is alot of talent in the 19s and 17s at Port, and the reserves is full of kids. Port didnt recruit many big names this year, but they have continued the development of the kids coming through, so that is where the success will come from.
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Re: changes needed at Alberton!

Postby roosters1 » Wed Apr 23, 2008 6:45 pm

Ports list is one of the best in the comp. Once they get all there players back from injury look out I reckon. They should be 3 and 1 if is wasnt for bad kicking. I hope I am wrong cose I hate port but hey could be the dark horse when they get it together.
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Re: changes needed at Alberton!

Postby Magpies_Forever » Wed Apr 23, 2008 6:47 pm

I like the last coment on the article that we do have players coming back but kids like kirkwood have had their opportunity and wont be giving it up. maybe now we will see some younger guys competing for league sports against some of our more experienced players
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Re: changes needed at Alberton!

Postby GWW » Wed Apr 23, 2008 7:03 pm

roosters1 wrote:Ports list is one of the best in the comp. Once they get all there players back from injury look out I reckon. They should be 3 and 1 if is wasnt for bad kicking. I hope I am wrong cose I hate port but hey could be the dark horse when they get it together.


The club is certainly missing players like Saunders, Meicklejohn, Murray, Waterhouse, and Thurgood, but the issue goes a bit deeper than player unavailability i think. There appears to be problems (dating back to last year) with goalkicking accuracy, maybe Tim's coaching, and a bit of self doubt as to how to kill off a game when they're in front.
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Re: changes needed at Alberton!

Postby am Bays » Wed Apr 23, 2008 9:03 pm

GWW wrote:
roosters1 wrote:Ports list is one of the best in the comp. Once they get all there players back from injury look out I reckon. They should be 3 and 1 if is wasnt for bad kicking. I hope I am wrong cose I hate port but hey could be the dark horse when they get it together.


The club is certainly missing players like Saunders, Meicklejohn, Murray, Waterhouse, and Thurgood, but the issue goes a bit deeper than player unavailability i think. There appears to be problems (dating back to last year) with goalkicking accuracy, maybe Tim's coaching, and a bit of self doubt as to how to kill off a game when they're in front.


All clubs have injuries, we have some, North have plenty, not all of Centrals squad is back, Norwood have key outs (will Doyle ever play though) and the Eagles have senior players coming back through the twos who you would thnk would be candidates for senior selection in teh next few weeks....

At all clubs as players come back other players get injured so the cycle goes on - when we get the injured players back we'll be better....

IMO you can always bank on having about 8 players out at any one time - less than that and you are going well more than that you can count yourselves as unlucky or poor managers of player's injuries.
Let that be a lesson to you Port, no one beats the Bays five times in a row in a GF and gets away with it!!!
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Re: changes needed at Alberton!

Postby roosters1 » Wed Apr 23, 2008 9:25 pm

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roosters1 wrote:Ports list is one of the best in the comp. Once they get all there players back from injury look out I reckon. They should be 3 and 1 if is wasnt for bad kicking. I hope I am wrong cose I hate port but hey could be the dark horse when they get it together.


The club is certainly missing players like Saunders, Meicklejohn, Murray, Waterhouse, and Thurgood, but the issue goes a bit deeper than player unavailability i think. There appears to be problems (dating back to last year) with goalkicking accuracy, maybe Tim's coaching, and a bit of self doubt as to how to kill off a game when they're in front.


All clubs have injuries, we have some, North have plenty, not all of Centrals squad is back, Norwood have key outs (will Doyle ever play though) and the Eagles have senior players coming back through the twos who you would thnk would be candidates for senior selection in teh next few weeks....

At all clubs as players come back other players get injured so the cycle goes on - when we get the injured players back we'll be better....

IMO you can always bank on having about 8 players out at any one time - less than that and you are going well more than that you can count yourselves as unlucky or poor managers of player's injuries.

You can chuck in Elstone,lokan,King,Lees,Rugolo and Marding the bays and north dont have injury lists of that quality and that long mate. As I said I hate port but look out.
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Re: changes needed at Alberton!

Postby am Bays » Wed Apr 23, 2008 10:01 pm

roosters1 wrote:You can chuck in Elstone,lokan,King,Lees,Rugolo and Marding the bays and north dont have injury lists of that quality and that long mate. As I said I hate port but look out.


Didn't say teams had worse injury lists than Port, ATM. All I'm saying is I don't think the severity of Ports lists compared to others is enough to have me looking over my shoulder...

Lokan, good 2s fringe 1s player now - actually he had a shocker in the 2s last time I saw him play...
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Re: changes needed at Alberton!

Postby Wedgie » Wed Apr 23, 2008 10:46 pm

I woudlnt get too excited about Meicklejohn coming back as it could coincide with Maric not being around.
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Re: changes needed at Alberton!

Postby RustyCage » Thu Apr 24, 2008 1:14 am

Wedgie wrote:I woudlnt get too excited about Meicklejohn coming back as it could coincide with Maric not being around.


Im just happy we've still got Maric now!!!
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Re: changes needed at Alberton!

Postby G » Thu Apr 24, 2008 1:30 am

How does QUALITY and names like Lokan and Rugolo go together - give us a spell :oops: :oops:
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Re: changes needed at Alberton!

Postby roosters1 » Thu Apr 24, 2008 10:52 am

G wrote:How does QUALITY and names like Lokan and Rugolo go together - give us a spell :oops: :oops:

Lokan was only playing good footy for collingwood a few years ago. You dont lose your ability to play the game G. There is just a fitness problem there. Time will tell
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Re: changes needed at Alberton!

Postby am Bays » Thu Apr 24, 2008 10:55 am

roosters1 wrote:
G wrote:How does QUALITY and names like Lokan and Rugolo go together - give us a spell :oops: :oops:

Lokan was only playing good footy for collingwood a few years ago. You dont lose your ability to play the game G. There is just a fitness problem there. Time will tell


So why was he playing 2s footy at the end of teh year in a team that came 6th? You're right he was good in 2003, in 2008.....

Micklejohn, Murray, Thurgood are key outs I admit the rest Meh....
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