McCabe found guilty...

[mal]

Premeditated and shameful.
The ball was nuetral so its not a sheperd.
Any aspiring young kid who wants to play footy
watching that will get the wrong idea now.
Any parent watching that will be tempted now to stop
thier young lad playing footy.

Now that Mccabe has got away with it , it may well encourage
players to line up opposition stars early and injure them with
the knowledge that penalties will not be applicable.

People are saying it was a good hard game, some of the time yes,
but when players are backing into packs[gowans] and the oppostion
charge into thier backsides and hurt them, that is gutless.
Many players going for the ball or disposing of the ball were felled.
Thats not courage thats division 12 amatuer league standard.

[Dogmatic]

I take it half the forum would like bouncers removed from cricket as well?

[smac]

Premeditated and shameful.
The ball was nuetral so its not a sheperd.
Any aspiring young kid who wants to play footy
watching that will get the wrong idea now.
Any parent watching that will be tempted now to stop
thier young lad playing footy.

Now that Mccabe has got away with it , it may well encourage
players to line up opposition stars early and injure them with
the knowledge that penalties will not be applicable.

People are saying it was a good hard game, some of the time yes,
but when players are backing into packs[gowans] and the oppostion
charge into thier backsides and hurt them, that is gutless.
Many players going for the ball or disposing of the ball were felled.
Thats not courage thats division 12 amatuer league standard.

That's some mighty impressive propaganda there mal. That is the sort of crap that will stop people from playing footy, not the incident itself. My 7 year old son was concerned for Butcher, however he also said "he'll keep his eyes open next time". The reason for this is (like Wedgie) I am teaching him already to watch around himself when he is playing football.

If society stopped trying to protect people from themselves and started allowing people to learn for themselves we would all be better off. Almost time to open a new topic on the discussion forum now, so I will stop.

[JK]

Haven't seen the incident still, but I'm sure it wouldn't rate in the top 50 physical things I've seen in 20 years of watching and playing the sport ... Anyone considering playing football at any level will need to know there is always the risk of getting hurt, it's part and parcel of the game so I'm inclined to agree with Smac's post ...

[mal]

SMAC

You have very little comprehension.
Your son said "he will keep his eyes open next time."
Butcher did have his eyes open he was watching the ball
unlike MCcabe who had his eyes on Butcher only.

then you said : I am teaching him already to watch around himself
when he is playing football.
How can your kid watch the ball and watch out for 18 opposition players
at the same time all of the time.

How does James Gowans mark a football and be watching the ball and
also be watching around himself.[and then get cleaned up from behind]

Mccabe was found guilty by an tribunal.
The umpire paid a free kick.
That means he did the wrong thing.

Like it or not Soccer is sadly gaining momentum beacuse more and more parents
are steering away from football for these reasons.

[smac]

As a result of propaganda such as yours mal - not as a result of incidents that happen because someone is unaware of their environment. Do you look at the little green man the whole time you cross the road or are you aware of what traffic is around?

You question my comprehension skills? I think the opposite applies as I was disputing your point quite clearly, not misunderstanding it.

[mal]

SMAC

Explain the Gowans incident to your kid.
I have yet to see a human being with eyes in the back of thier heads.

And if Butcher was watching MCCabe and not the ball
what would coach Ginever do to his player.

How can what i say be propaganda when it happened !

There is an art to bracing your body when you have the footy
to protect yourself, if you get cleaned up thats in the SPIRIT of the game.

If you think there's nothing wrong..............

[smac]

Respectfully, I retire. It is apparent that my point is lost upon you mal. Have a good day.

[THE CHIEF]

What if any should be the punishment for those feral supporters who charged from the hill to the fence to get involved in the scuffle between the players.
Surely they should be identified and banned from attending matches for a set period of time. The SANFL needs to send a message that that sort of behaviour is not acceptble.
We all love the rough stuff in SA footy but thats for the players not us punters.

Where you at the game or are you responding to the lopsided media that has been dished up. I'll clear it up for you because it all happened 5 meters in front of me! The picture of the guy in the port jumper that features so prominantly did nothing wrong how ever an elderly gentleman (not a member of the cheersquad) that is not in view was ejected for poking a player with his flag. When a few fans rushed the fence the brawl was nowhere near the fence. What was a concern was WESLO's lack of control ALL DAY! And why did the police leave the ground just after the halftime break. Any idiot knows what is likely to happen when an incident occurs. It makes me wonder why the police were so heavy handed at prospect yet invisiable at elizabeth. But all this was a prelude to what was to happen when the final siren sounded. Idont mind a bit of banter, thats part of footy but, being pelted with half full beer cans by faceless scumbags who haven't got the bottle to come up to your face is not on! Especially when our young children are in attendance. A number of us were hit and was witnessed by Bulldogs boss Kris Grant who I think will do the usual thing by not taking any action. Not happy til someone loses an eye hey Kris?! At least the magpies have taken action on the individual and he has been banned.What will centrals do? More than likely nothing!

[Pseudo]

I take it half the forum would like bouncers removed from cricket as well?

If the bouncers had been kept out of cricket, Hookesey would still be alive today.

[smac]

I take it half the forum would like bouncers removed from cricket as well?

If the bouncers had been kept out of cricket, Hookesey would still be alive today.

LMAO! (brave man, most people think it without saying it)

[Pseudo]

I watched the game last night (thanks to ABC2 and VCRs). Having seen the incident, I reckon the right thing has been done.

There was nothing wrong with the bump per se. No elbows, no fist, just a good ol' fashioned shirtfront.

However it is true that McCabe charged Butcher. Last time I checked, this was a reportable offence. Nothing wrong with shepherding around a ruck contest, nothing wrong with using the body, but to run full tilt at a player with no eye for the contest is wrong.

So I reckon the report was justified. Not sure of McCabe's history, but if this was a first offence then a reprimand is appropriate. A charge rates as one of the lower offences in my book, certainly less than striking or kicking. In this case it culminated in a fair bump (bad luck to Butcher that he caught it the wrong way) and was not outside the play, being at a ruck contest.

I reckon the right thing has been done. Play on.

[Dogwatcher]

Where you at the game or are you responding to the lopsided media that has been dished up. I'll clear it up for you because it all happened 5 meters in front of me! The picture of the guy in the port jumper that features so prominantly did nothing wrong how ever an elderly gentleman (not a member of the cheersquad) that is not in view was ejected for poking a player with his flag. When a few fans rushed the fence the brawl was nowhere near the fence. What was a concern was WESLO's lack of control ALL DAY! And why did the police leave the ground just after the halftime break. Any idiot knows what is likely to happen when an incident occurs. It makes me wonder why the police were so heavy handed at prospect yet invisiable at elizabeth. But all this was a prelude to what was to happen when the final siren sounded. Idont mind a bit of banter, thats part of footy but, being pelted with half full beer cans by faceless scumbags who haven't got the bottle to come up to your face is not on! Especially when our young children are in attendance. A number of us were hit and was witnessed by Bulldogs boss Kris Grant who I think will do the usual thing by not taking any action. Not happy til someone loses an eye hey Kris?! At least the magpies have taken action on the individual and he has been banned.What will centrals do? More than likely nothing!

Complained to the CDFC officially have you?
Or just here?

Your concerns about security/policing could well be justified.
But if you don't take official action, no official action can be taken.

[CedeNullis]

Good post Pseudo. Some have been watching waaaaaaay too much AFL.

[stan]

I watched the game last night (thanks to ABC2 and VCRs). Having seen the incident, I reckon the right thing has been done.

There was nothing wrong with the bump per se. No elbows, no fist, just a good ol' fashioned shirtfront.

Havent seen a good shirt front in years. Butcher will probably be more mind full of the play round him now.

[ca]

Personally I don't think the incident was good, and I think Macabe should have got a couple of games. You wouldn't want to see that kind of thing in the SAAFL, although we already do, it still shouldn't be condoned.

None the less and I'll get in trouble for saying this but perhaps the SANFL should put in on their promo for next season. Its something the SANFL has that the AFL doesn't.

[doggies4eva]

Agree with you Psoodo. Also the context of the game needs to be taken into account.

Port clearly went out there with instructions to "play hard" as there were hard physical contests right from the start. If Ginever wants to play that sort of game he will need the players to back it up.

[Magpiespower]

None the less and I'll get in trouble for saying this but perhaps the SANFL should put in on their promo for next season. Its something the SANFL has that the AFL doesn't.

Agree 100%.

'Real Footy,' or something similar, could be the promotion.

Not only on the ground, but off the ground as well.

[RustyCage]

Any parent watching that will be tempted now to stop
thier young lad playing footy.

Any parent who stops their kid from playing footy because there is a chance they might get hurt deserves to labelled as a bad parent and is another indication of just how soft we have become as a society in the last 10 or so years.

[RustyCage]

I watched the game last night (thanks to ABC2 and VCRs). Having seen the incident, I reckon the right thing has been done.

There was nothing wrong with the bump per se. No elbows, no fist, just a good ol' fashioned shirtfront.

Havent seen a good shirt front in years. Butcher will probably be more mind full of the play round him now.

No, Butcher shouldn't have to be mindful of people around him doing what McCabe did, as people shouldn't be doing what McCabe did.