doggies4eva wrote:If South were prepared to pay $50,000 without a fight that means that they knew it would have been more if there was a thorough investigation.
Exactly my point in the 3rd post down on this topic, its quite scary really.
South Adelaide Fined for Salary Cap Breach
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by Wedgie » Sat Jul 29, 2006 11:43 pm
Exactly my point in the 3rd post down on this topic, its quite scary really.
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by doggies4eva » Sun Jul 30, 2006 4:30 pm
Wedgie wrote:doggies4eva wrote:If South were prepared to pay $50,000 without a fight that means that they knew it would have been more if there was a thorough investigation.
Exactly my point in the 3rd post down on this topic, its quite scary really.
Yeah, one can only guess at the urgent meetings held behind closed doors to authorise an extraordinary payment like this!
We used to be good :-(
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by RoosterMarty » Sun Jul 30, 2006 4:36 pm
Wedgie wrote:Cheers gravel, what you said was confirmed by Dougy Robertson's article today.
Shame South, Eagles and Central, Shame!
Kick all 3 of them out of the comp I say!
Thats one way of getting rid of the bye!
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Finally a decent article by Rucci.....
by am Bays » Wed Aug 02, 2006 8:24 pm
Maybe Ferrethead ain't so bad afterall......
AN open letter to:
Rod Payze
SANFL president
AAMI Stadium,
West Lakes, SA 5021
Dear Rod,
We always knew following Max Basheer into the SANFL presidency would not be easy. By definition, the job brings enormous challenges. Max had, just to mention two, the 1990 saga and before this the floodlighting of AAMI Stadium that led to a Royal Commission. A Royal Commission!
Before Max, Judge Don Brebner had to deal with the history making move from Adelaide Oval to find football's first true home at AAMI Stadium at West Lakes. No fun in that gamble, we're told - particularly when the price of concrete shot up in 1973.
Your poisoned apple Rod, is the salary cap forced upon your league by the AFL (to keep delisted AFL players from rushing to the SANFL rather than falling back to the VFL). So far, the salary cap has been seen as either a joke or a farce in club land. At Central District, club general manager Kris Grant has laughed that his club's most-recent $5000 fine for breaching the salary cap was a sound "investment" in a premiership. At Glenelg, there is anger that the Tigers have been true to the salary cap - and feel cheated for their honesty.
On Tuesday your commission sanctioned a record $50,000 fine on South Adelaide for salary cap breaches last year. And then it waited until Friday to announce this verdict - by a short e-mail - seemingly in the hope it would be lost amid the big-ticket football items such as the Crows' trip to Perth. Sadly Rod, you missed a great opportunity here.
If clubs such as Glenelg and the greater football public are to have complete faith in the purity of the SANFL competition the enforcement of the $305,000 salary cap must be transparent.
Since Friday, it has been murky.
Rod, you may be aware, that Italian football is in the mire with corruption by its biggest club, Juventus. Every transcript of the wire taps that uncovered how Juventus was ensuring certain referees stage-managed its matches is in the public domain. So are the papers from the investigations, hearings and appeals.
The guilty have been exposed. The belief the game is cleaning itself up can grow on the knowledge all is transparent.
By contrast, too many questions have been left unanswered by the South Adelaide scandal.
To have issued a statement by e-mail on Friday afternoon rather than to have had an open press conference smacks of policy from a totalitarian empire. To have gagged the central players in this controversy makes the whole affair worse. To deny South its right of reply in public is extraordinary.
The answers may be not forthcoming from your commission, but the questions will not go away. And amid this silence, concerns for how the SANFL salary cap is policed are growing.
Just for now Rod consider these burning questions:
WHY did the SA Football Commission wait until Friday to announce the decision made on Tuesday? Was it simply a legal problem in enforcing the penalty?
WHY is the commission not prepared to publicly detail this salary cap breach, its investigations and the penalty to ensure much-needed transparency?
DOES the SANFL have the power to strip premiership points from club breaching the salary cap? If not, will it write such rules. Rod, we cannot have clubs thinking fines are an "investment" in a premiership. Only starting a season with negative premiership points will scare off clubs.
WHAT was the extent of South Adelaide's breach? Who is being held responsible to its members for the Panthers' violations?
WHAT action can the SANFL take against players and officials who intentionally make these breaches of the salary cap?
DOES the SANFL see a need to hire a gun accountant - one with no link to any club - to replace John Condon as its salary cap cop? Surely the $50,000 fine from South Adelaide could finance this.
WHAT is the SANFL doing to re-assure clubs such as Glenelg that the salary cap is being honoured by every club?
WHY is the independent commission asking the nine SANFL clubs to review its proposals for new salary cap rules?
Attorney-General Mick Atkinson does not ask confirmed and potential criminals how to write state law.
As you see Rod, the list of unanswered questions is long ... and it will get longer amid your silence beyond a brief, confusing e-mail. The integrity of the SANFL competition demands these questions be asked and you willingly answer them.
Yours in football, MR
http://www.news.com.au/adelaidenow/stor ... 46,00.html
In all honesty some good questions asked by MR, One would hope that noone else is over but if anyone is breaking the current cap, hopefully appropriate sanctions are imposed. Having sid that the cap needs to be lifted to fit in with inflation and Trevhills idea on FootySA should be looked at seriously too to reward the SANFL clubs with good development programs.....
AN open letter to:
Rod Payze
SANFL president
AAMI Stadium,
West Lakes, SA 5021
Dear Rod,
We always knew following Max Basheer into the SANFL presidency would not be easy. By definition, the job brings enormous challenges. Max had, just to mention two, the 1990 saga and before this the floodlighting of AAMI Stadium that led to a Royal Commission. A Royal Commission!
Before Max, Judge Don Brebner had to deal with the history making move from Adelaide Oval to find football's first true home at AAMI Stadium at West Lakes. No fun in that gamble, we're told - particularly when the price of concrete shot up in 1973.
Your poisoned apple Rod, is the salary cap forced upon your league by the AFL (to keep delisted AFL players from rushing to the SANFL rather than falling back to the VFL). So far, the salary cap has been seen as either a joke or a farce in club land. At Central District, club general manager Kris Grant has laughed that his club's most-recent $5000 fine for breaching the salary cap was a sound "investment" in a premiership. At Glenelg, there is anger that the Tigers have been true to the salary cap - and feel cheated for their honesty.
On Tuesday your commission sanctioned a record $50,000 fine on South Adelaide for salary cap breaches last year. And then it waited until Friday to announce this verdict - by a short e-mail - seemingly in the hope it would be lost amid the big-ticket football items such as the Crows' trip to Perth. Sadly Rod, you missed a great opportunity here.
If clubs such as Glenelg and the greater football public are to have complete faith in the purity of the SANFL competition the enforcement of the $305,000 salary cap must be transparent.
Since Friday, it has been murky.
Rod, you may be aware, that Italian football is in the mire with corruption by its biggest club, Juventus. Every transcript of the wire taps that uncovered how Juventus was ensuring certain referees stage-managed its matches is in the public domain. So are the papers from the investigations, hearings and appeals.
The guilty have been exposed. The belief the game is cleaning itself up can grow on the knowledge all is transparent.
By contrast, too many questions have been left unanswered by the South Adelaide scandal.
To have issued a statement by e-mail on Friday afternoon rather than to have had an open press conference smacks of policy from a totalitarian empire. To have gagged the central players in this controversy makes the whole affair worse. To deny South its right of reply in public is extraordinary.
The answers may be not forthcoming from your commission, but the questions will not go away. And amid this silence, concerns for how the SANFL salary cap is policed are growing.
Just for now Rod consider these burning questions:
WHY did the SA Football Commission wait until Friday to announce the decision made on Tuesday? Was it simply a legal problem in enforcing the penalty?
WHY is the commission not prepared to publicly detail this salary cap breach, its investigations and the penalty to ensure much-needed transparency?
DOES the SANFL have the power to strip premiership points from club breaching the salary cap? If not, will it write such rules. Rod, we cannot have clubs thinking fines are an "investment" in a premiership. Only starting a season with negative premiership points will scare off clubs.
WHAT was the extent of South Adelaide's breach? Who is being held responsible to its members for the Panthers' violations?
WHAT action can the SANFL take against players and officials who intentionally make these breaches of the salary cap?
DOES the SANFL see a need to hire a gun accountant - one with no link to any club - to replace John Condon as its salary cap cop? Surely the $50,000 fine from South Adelaide could finance this.
WHAT is the SANFL doing to re-assure clubs such as Glenelg that the salary cap is being honoured by every club?
WHY is the independent commission asking the nine SANFL clubs to review its proposals for new salary cap rules?
Attorney-General Mick Atkinson does not ask confirmed and potential criminals how to write state law.
As you see Rod, the list of unanswered questions is long ... and it will get longer amid your silence beyond a brief, confusing e-mail. The integrity of the SANFL competition demands these questions be asked and you willingly answer them.
Yours in football, MR
http://www.news.com.au/adelaidenow/stor ... 46,00.html
In all honesty some good questions asked by MR, One would hope that noone else is over but if anyone is breaking the current cap, hopefully appropriate sanctions are imposed. Having sid that the cap needs to be lifted to fit in with inflation and Trevhills idea on FootySA should be looked at seriously too to reward the SANFL clubs with good development programs.....
Let that be a lesson to you Port, no one beats the Bays five times in a row in a GF and gets away with it!!!
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