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Re: Put your money where your mouth is...

Postby whufc » Fri Aug 16, 2013 7:34 pm

Aerie wrote:
sjt wrote:
Aerie wrote:South did it for the right reasons. Central just couldn't make up their mind. Their decision could be made without consequence. Probably scared of UK Fan.


Centrals couldn't make such an important decision with the lack of information and the poor quality of the information at hand. I believe this is what sensible managers, businesses, directors do request some facts and tangible benefits when a proposition is put forward.


I'll ask again. What was the exact information that Central wanted? There are many unknowns that can't actually be answered without hindsight.

As far as I'm concerned, it's either a NO because of integrity, a NO because you think the SANFL will be better off without the AFL teams, or a YES because you think the SANFL will be better off with the AFL teams than they would with AFL teams in the SAAFL or another competition.

Central's meek NO is as bad as the meek YES voters.

It has not just been the last month or so that the Crows have wanted a Reserves team. Central should be better prepared than voting NO on the basis of lack of information. Then they could have influenced others.


The guestimate crowd figure really put the central board off side and made them question what research had actually been done to any of the proposal.

When asked what research had been done.....tumbleweeds rolled past and birds tweeted
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Re: Put your money where your mouth is...

Postby csbowes » Fri Aug 16, 2013 7:40 pm

I think Aerie is just trying to make some of us think laterally... so don't get too stuck into him.

He's a good bloke.

Though I did chuckle at the peanut comment! :-)
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Re: Put your money where your mouth is...

Postby Aerie » Fri Aug 16, 2013 7:54 pm

csbowes wrote:I can't agree with that Aerie...

When Port presented their financial plan to Sturt, it wasn't Sturt's job to highlight the flaws and help them solve it...

If the Crows can't put together a decent proposal, you vote NO and send them off to rethink it...

Central aren't obligated to do anything unless they themselves are interested in pursuing the idea for some benefit.


Unfortunately there was a threat involved with the Crows situation that would have impacted the SANFL one way or another.

All clubs needed to do due diligence and weigh this threat in to their decision.

I find a NO just because of lack of information pretty poor in this case.

It is not the decision I am arguing against, it is the reason.
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Re: Put your money where your mouth is...

Postby spell_check » Fri Aug 16, 2013 7:56 pm

Aerie wrote:I find a NO just because of lack of information pretty poor in this case.


Could the CDFC have asked for the vote to be put back until they got the info needed? And that's not a question just for you, Aerie, but others out there.
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Re: Put your money where your mouth is...

Postby Aerie » Fri Aug 16, 2013 7:56 pm

sjt wrote:
Aerie wrote:
sjt wrote:
Aerie wrote:South did it for the right reasons. Central just couldn't make up their mind. Their decision could be made without consequence. Probably scared of UK Fan.


Centrals couldn't make such an important decision with the lack of information and the poor quality of the information at hand. I believe this is what sensible managers, businesses, directors do request some facts and tangible benefits when a proposition is put forward.


I'll ask again. What was the exact information that Central wanted? There are many unknowns that can't actually be answered without hindsight.

As far as I'm concerned, it's either a NO because of integrity, a NO because you think the SANFL will be better off without the AFL teams, or a YES because you think the SANFL will be better off with the AFL teams than they would with AFL teams in the SAAFL or another competition.

Central's meek NO is as bad as the meek YES voters.

It has not just been the last month or so that the Crows have wanted a Reserves team. Central should be better prepared than voting NO on the basis of lack of information. Then they could have influenced others.

Maybe, what are the definitive benefits of an afl reserves team in our comp? I would have thrown in, "where did your crowd figures come from?" after all it has not just been the last month or so that the crows have wanted a reserves team.


The definitive benefits are in the proposal.

The crowd figures is a guess. There is nothing in that. The clubs need to decide what they think, ignoring the Crows estimated 2000-6000. Weigh what they think in to an answer. The crowd figures question is one of those that require hindsight.
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Re: Put your money where your mouth is...

Postby smac » Fri Aug 16, 2013 7:58 pm

spell_check wrote:
Aerie wrote:I find a NO just because of lack of information pretty poor in this case.


Could the CDFC have asked for the vote to be put back until they got the info needed? And that's not a question just for you, Aerie, but others out there.

They did. The vote was hastily arranged the moment 6 yes votes were confirmed.
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Re: Put your money where your mouth is...

Postby spell_check » Fri Aug 16, 2013 7:58 pm

smac wrote:
spell_check wrote:
Aerie wrote:I find a NO just because of lack of information pretty poor in this case.


Could the CDFC have asked for the vote to be put back until they got the info needed? And that's not a question just for you, Aerie, but others out there.

They did. The vote was hastily arranged the moment 6 yes votes were confirmed.


Thought so.
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Re: Put your money where your mouth is...

Postby Aerie » Fri Aug 16, 2013 8:15 pm

smac wrote:
spell_check wrote:
Aerie wrote:I find a NO just because of lack of information pretty poor in this case.


Could the CDFC have asked for the vote to be put back until they got the info needed? And that's not a question just for you, Aerie, but others out there.

They did. The vote was hastily arranged the moment 6 yes votes were confirmed.


Will Central reveal what they would have voted for once they digest all the information? Whatever that information might be?
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Re: Put your money where your mouth is...

Postby Kahuna » Fri Aug 16, 2013 8:56 pm

Aerie wrote:
Will Central reveal what they would have voted for once they digest all the information? Whatever that information might be?


Maybe it was the unknowns that your crowd blindly accepted. In Good Faith. I'd L.O.L . if it wasn't so S.A.D.
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Re: Put your money where your mouth is...

Postby Dutchy » Fri Aug 16, 2013 8:57 pm

fester69 wrote:Don't be so quick to paint Central and South as heroic.
Once Norwood rolled over it was easy for them to vote NO and save face.
They'll be heroic IF they knock back any of the promised finances.


believe it or not the world DOES NOT revolve around Norwood...
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Re: Put your money where your mouth is...

Postby Pseudo » Fri Aug 16, 2013 9:03 pm

Dutchy wrote:
fester69 wrote:Don't be so quick to paint Central and South as heroic.
Once Norwood rolled over it was easy for them to vote NO and save face.
They'll be heroic IF they knock back any of the promised finances.


believe it or not the world DOES NOT revolve around Norwood...

Of course not. It revolves around the Crows.
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Re: Put your money where your mouth is...

Postby fester69 » Fri Aug 16, 2013 9:07 pm

Dutchy wrote:
fester69 wrote:Don't be so quick to paint Central and South as heroic.
Once Norwood rolled over it was easy for them to vote NO and save face.
They'll be heroic IF they knock back any of the promised finances.


believe it or not the world DOES NOT revolve around Norwood...


It did last night when we changed from NO to YES.
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Re: Put your money where your mouth is...

Postby smac » Fri Aug 16, 2013 9:21 pm

Righto, 2014 memberships now available:

http://www.cdfc.com.au/2013-membership-packages/
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Re: Put your money where your mouth is...

Postby LPH » Fri Aug 16, 2013 9:25 pm

Living down South - I will buy a South Adelaide FC Membership for 2014 but won't be a 'South Supporter' as such.
The stance they took right the way through this is admirable & worth of financial reward (hence purchase of a Membership)

My days with WWTFC are over - I won't step foot inside Woodville Oval again.
I will go & watch the odd game regardless of the home team (except WWT) - it will involve the 'Vultures', I will pay for entry so the SANFL gets the entry fee, but I will fiercely barrack AGAINST the 'Vultures'.
I hate everything they have become & stand for.

I will continue to attend the SANFL Grand Final - as I have for 31 previous times.

I will buy an SAJC Membership & more often than not go to Morphettville (particularly between August & December).
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Re: Put your money where your mouth is...

Postby Pseudo » Fri Aug 16, 2013 9:31 pm

LEH wrote:I will continue to attend the SANFL Grand Final - as I have for 31 previous times.

Even if it's WWT versus the Arseholes?
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Re: Put your money where your mouth is...

Postby blueandwhite » Fri Aug 16, 2013 9:32 pm

[quote="Dutchy"][quote="fester69"]Don't be so quick to paint Central and South as heroic.
Once Norwood rolled over it was easy for them to vote NO and save face.


this would have to be one of the most lame inept comments Ive ever read on this forum.

South had a members information night a fortnight ago, where the club presented the proposed model to the membership. The membership made their feelings clear in no uncertain terms. The Board then convened upstairs and decided on their NO vote there and then.

Any misguided speculation that the SAFC chopped and changed its position prior to the the vote of the league directors is garbage.
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Re: Put your money where your mouth is...

Postby LPH » Fri Aug 16, 2013 9:38 pm

Pseudo wrote:
LEH wrote:I will continue to attend the SANFL Grand Final - as I have for 31 previous times.

Even if it's WWT versus the Arseholes?


Yes I will but for the following reason only:

As I have stated many times - THAT Day is "Boys Day", my son & me (& should he have a son, him as well)... as it was for me & my father until his death 20 years ago. Can't say I would be barracking for either team though :(
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Re: Put your money where your mouth is...

Postby Mickyj » Fri Aug 16, 2013 9:46 pm

LEH wrote:Living down South - I will buy a South Adelaide FC Membership for 2014 but won't be a 'South Supporter' as such.
The stance they took right the way through this is admirable & worth of financial reward (hence purchase of a Membership)

My days with WWTFC are over - I won't step foot inside Woodville Oval again.
I will go & watch the odd game regardless of the home team (except WWT) - it will involve the 'Vultures', I will pay for entry so the SANFL gets the entry fee, but I will fiercely barrack AGAINST the 'Vultures'.
I hate everything they have become & stand for.

I will continue to attend the SANFL Grand Final - as I have for 31 previous times.

I will buy an SAJC Membership & more often than not go to Morphettville (particularly between August & December).


So your walk around Eagles games with a stupid sign .stand at the gates getting a petition signed .
And things don't go your way and you are no longer an Eagles fan !! And you teach at a private school typical attitude !!!
Goodbye you went to how many games in a year !!!
And before you ask me I have missed one Eagles game back in 2006 . And one trial game this year . And honestly you will not be missed .Don't let the door hit you on the way .
Guess South can spot any easy touch richest club and vote no and everyman and their dog are throwing money at them !!
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Re: Put your money where your mouth is...

Postby whufc » Fri Aug 16, 2013 9:51 pm

Mickyj wrote:
LEH wrote:Living down South - I will buy a South Adelaide FC Membership for 2014 but won't be a 'South Supporter' as such.
The stance they took right the way through this is admirable & worth of financial reward (hence purchase of a Membership)

My days with WWTFC are over - I won't step foot inside Woodville Oval again.
I will go & watch the odd game regardless of the home team (except WWT) - it will involve the 'Vultures', I will pay for entry so the SANFL gets the entry fee, but I will fiercely barrack AGAINST the 'Vultures'.
I hate everything they have become & stand for.

I will continue to attend the SANFL Grand Final - as I have for 31 previous times.

I will buy an SAJC Membership & more often than not go to Morphettville (particularly between August & December).



So your walk around Eagles games with a stupid sign .stand at the gates getting a petition signed .
And things don't go your way and you are no longer an Eagles fan !! And you teach at a private school typical attitude !!!
Goodbye you went to how many games in a year !!!
And before you ask me I have missed one Eagles game back in 2006 . And one trial game this year . And honestly you will not be missed .Don't let the door hit you on the way .
Guess South can spot any easy touch richest club and vote no and everyman and their dog are throwing money at them !!


Lol ur club will miss every supporter that walks especially considering half of them will now jump ship to the Crows reserves and the other 4 blokes are likely to die within two years
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Re: Put your money where your mouth is...

Postby Mickyj » Fri Aug 16, 2013 9:58 pm

whufc wrote:
Mickyj wrote:
LEH wrote:Living down South - I will buy a South Adelaide FC Membership for 2014 but won't be a 'South Supporter' as such.
The stance they took right the way through this is admirable & worth of financial reward (hence purchase of a Membership)

My days with WWTFC are over - I won't step foot inside Woodville Oval again.
I will go & watch the odd game regardless of the home team (except WWT) - it will involve the 'Vultures', I will pay for entry so the SANFL gets the entry fee, but I will fiercely barrack AGAINST the 'Vultures'.
I hate everything they have become & stand for.

I will continue to attend the SANFL Grand Final - as I have for 31 previous times.

I will buy an SAJC Membership & more often than not go to Morphettville (particularly between August & December).





So your walk around Eagles games with a stupid sign .stand at the gates getting a petition signed .
And things don't go your way and you are no longer an Eagles fan !! And you teach at a private school typical attitude !!!
Goodbye you went to how many games in a year !!!
And before you ask me I have missed one Eagles game back in 2006 . And one trial game this year . And honestly you will not be missed .Don't let the door hit you on the way .
Guess South can spot any easy touch richest club and vote no and everyman and their dog are throwing money at them !!


Lol ur club will miss every supporter that walks especially considering half of them will now jump ship to the Crows reserves and the other 4 blokes are likely to die within two years

Bullshit the silent majority like myself will keep following the Eagle . the crap that was written in the paper last Saturday was bullshit .
You keep thinking that and we will keep going to the matches .
Keep believing what LEH says and you will get shocked how many of us turn up his brownshirt bully boy tactics fell short of forcing the people to follow what he wanted to happen
I'm 50 and my kid is 24 we aint dying just yet and we will be at the games
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