A look ahead to the 2nd semi final

[bulldogproud]

McGregor's final game that he can play for the Eagles is next weekend. Crows players can only play while the Crows have the possibility of a match the following weekend. The only way he can play in the Prelim for the Eagles is if the Crows make the Grand Final and it is a draw, as there would be a replay the following weekend.
Fuller is in a kind of no-win situation. If he sticks by his word and McGregor plays in the Ressies then the Crows are entitled to move him from the Eagles as he would have played two matches in a row in Reserves. If he plays McGregor in the league side, then he has gone against his word and also prevented a player who has played all year from playing in a final.
Having said that, I doubt that McGregor would be moved from the Eagles.
Cheers!

[eaglehaslanded]

McGregor's final game that he can play for the Eagles is next weekend. Crows players can only play while the Crows have the possibility of a match the following weekend. The only way he can play in the Prelim for the Eagles is if the Crows make the Grand Final and it is a draw, as there would be a replay the following weekend.
Fuller is in a kind of no-win situation. If he sticks by his word and McGregor plays in the Ressies then the Crows are entitled to move him from the Eagles as he would have played two matches in a row in Reserves. If he plays McGregor in the league side, then he has gone against his word and also prevented a player who has played all year from playing in a final.
Having said that, I doubt that McGregor would be moved from the Eagles.
Cheers!

This would not happen as McGregor is an Eagle born and bred. he himself would not want to be moved as he loves the club. That and the fact it is only under a very rare occasion that he isn't normally in the crows.

[bulldogproud]

I agree that he is unlikely to be moved on, but under the rules, it does allow the Crows to move him if they believe he would be better served elsewhere. He won't move as he loves the Eagles but the rule is there. Btw, I did mean Crows who had not qualified to play games for their SANFL club. Knights, Vince and Skipworth can of course play any time for the Eagles.

[sydney-dog]

Good sign today was Cowan got better as the game went on

[Aerie]

McGregor's final game that he can play for the Eagles is next weekend. Crows players can only play while the Crows have the possibility of a match the following weekend. The only way he can play in the Prelim for the Eagles is if the Crows make the Grand Final and it is a draw, as there would be a replay the following weekend.
Fuller is in a kind of no-win situation. If he sticks by his word and McGregor plays in the Ressies then the Crows are entitled to move him from the Eagles as he would have played two matches in a row in Reserves. If he plays McGregor in the league side, then he has gone against his word and also prevented a player who has played all year from playing in a final.
Having said that, I doubt that McGregor would be moved from the Eagles.
Cheers!

bulldogproud - I mentioned this on another thread - but what is the difference between McGregor's situation this year and Stuart Cochrane in 2004? Have they changed the rules because Cochrane only played 1 minor round game before going on to play in the Grand Final in that year.

It seems by all reports that McGregor is not eligible, but I don't understand why given what happened just two seasons ago. It seems unfair. Will the WWTFC be taking this up to the SANFL?

See this thread for Cochrane's verdict - http://www.footysa.com/forums.php?op=vi ... 8&fid=1263

The only reason I can think of is that the Crows have said once their season is finished, McGregor won't be playing, but I would imagine Kenny would love to play for the Eagles if he doesn't make the Crows and their season finishes this weekend.

[bulldogproud]

Aerie, now I am confused too. I forgot about Stuey playing in that one. I was pretty sure it was only minor round games that counted. Otherwise, it makes it very unfair on Power players with less than three SANFL games not being able to play in SANFL finals whilst Crows players can simply because the Crows made the finals. Can someone please enlighten me?

[Aerie]

Aerie, now I am confused too. I forgot about Stuey playing in that one. I was pretty sure it was only minor round games that counted. Otherwise, it makes it very unfair on Power players with less than three SANFL games not being able to play in SANFL finals whilst Crows players can simply because the Crows made the finals. Can someone please enlighten me?

I would be satisfied if it was only minor round games that counted. I don't think McGregor should be allowed to play at all and I don't think the Crows players should have been allowed to play for Eagles and Norwood reserves neither. It's just that with what happened in '04, a precedent has been set, so if it advantaged Central in that year the Eagles should get a break this year. Exact same situation, but it seems a different outcome at this stage.

[bulldogproud]

Aerie, did it advantage Central to the tune of 125 points though?? *grins*

[Aerie]

Aerie, did it advantage Central to the tune of 125 points though?? *grins*

Of course it did!

[bulldogproud]

Aerie, Hopwood tried to even things up for you though by going off the ground in the second quarter not through the interchange zone!! *grins*

[Hazydog]

My understanding is that the Stuey Cochrane episode exposed a loophole which has since been closed- could be wrong though.
Eags will be best served by those who have delivered a minor premiership. From my perspective, the likes of Biglands, Stevens, Burton, Skipworth have only unbalanced the team in previous years. (Skipworth & Vince admittedly have spent a fair share of time at Oval Ave this year.)

[CENTURION]

This is why I love Central/s. No ring-ins, no bullshit, just bloody good, hard-tackling footy. Everyone went on about who played well today & who didn't play but the REAL difference was how TOUGH & HARD TACKLING the Bulldogs were! The 'Dogs of old.

[Aerie]

My understanding is that the Stuey Cochrane episode exposed a loophole which has since been closed- could be wrong though.
Eags will be best served by those who have delivered a minor premiership. From my perspective, the likes of Biglands, Stevens, Burton, Skipworth have only unbalanced the team in previous years. (Skipworth & Vince admittedly have spent a fair share of time at Oval Ave this year.)

It's an interesting one whether to select McGregor. IMO, even if he is not eligible for the Grand Final, I would pick him in the league team next week, but would place him in the back lines. He would easily make our best 21 and knowing his character, he would give his all for the Eagles and would be popular among team mates. We are also not blessed with a tall back line, so he would be a bonus. The Eagles must win this week before they can even think about what happens in the following weeks and for this reason I would have McGregor in the league team if he does not get selected for the Crows.

[eaglehaslanded]

My understanding is that the Stuey Cochrane episode exposed a loophole which has since been closed- could be wrong though.
Eags will be best served by those who have delivered a minor premiership. From my perspective, the likes of Biglands, Stevens, Burton, Skipworth have only unbalanced the team in previous years. (Skipworth & Vince admittedly have spent a fair share of time at Oval Ave this year.)

It's an interesting one whether to select McGregor. IMO, even if he is not eligible for the Grand Final, I would pick him in the league team next week, but would place him in the back lines. He would easily make our best 21 and knowing his character, he would give his all for the Eagles and would be popular among team mates. We are also not blessed with a tall back line, so he would be a bonus. The Eagles must win this week before they can even think about what happens in the following weeks and for this reason I would have McGregor in the league team if he does not get selected for the Crows.

Agreed Aerie we must get the job done this coming week before we can think premiership dream. for this reason I too would select McGregor if available because he would be a huge assett down back and we all know he'll give 200% when he wears blue, green, gold. Easily would be in our best 21 if available. As we've seen the last couple of weeks is he has played better footy when moved down back. I think it's ludicrous Fuller is even conteplating not playing him. His job as a coach is to deliver us a premiership and if McGregor can help us to the GF it has to be done.

[Dogwatcher]

Interesting that at this point the Eagles on this forum are more worried about who they're going to pick for this game, and not the Doggies.

[Aerie]

Interesting that at this point the Eagles on this forum are more worried about who they're going to pick for this game, and not the Doggies.

Ok... to stop the Dogs, we need to win in the midfield and be more accountable than North were yesterday. When Central dominate, they usually have numbers around the ball (often only one more than the opposition) and always manage to get it out to their runners, even if it takes 2-3 close handballs. The Eagles play a different brand of football to North, probably influenced by the Central sides over the years.

Central are known for their tough contested footy, but what is under-rated is how good their outside players are and how well they get into space and deliver to Schell. Thomas, McCabe, Ware and Switala feed off the likes of the Gowans brothers and Slade.

We will win our fair share of contested footy, but also need runners at the contest (or 10-20 mtrs away from the contest). Luke Jarrad has played that role this year and Skipworth is another ball carrier.

Our defence has been built around McKenzie and Shattock. Pedler is likely to take on Cowan and Hier (or Salter) possibly on Schell, but it is McKenzie and Shattock who are always the third man up and who will mop up from any pressured kicks from the Central midfield as well as create from the back line.

Westbrook is an important player in our forward line. If Wilson gets the job on him, you can expect Westie to put more pressure on him taking it out of the back line than Campbell did yesterday. Grocke will always provide a contest and Passador, like Schell, will rely on some good delivery from the midfield and must capitalize on his opportunities.

I think it will be a hard slog. The prize for the winner will be the week off and that will be important because I bet there are some really sore bodies after next weeks game.

I think the players will be looking forward to taking on Central and I'm looking forward to watching the contest. It is the only way they will be able to get the gorilla off their back by taking it on head on in a final and beating it.

[sus]

Interesting that at this point the Eagles on this forum are more worried about who they're going to pick for this game, and not the Doggies.

Worried is an interesting way to put it? Anyway it's mainly because the WWT selection options are greater than the Dogs' - simple. Whether its good luck or good management the Dogs are fortunate to have pretty much their best 21 to choose from (yes I iknow you have a couple out ). If CD lost a key player or two now they would be cactus becuase they lack depth.

[Dissident]

To put it simply - the use/rules/etc of AFL players in the SANFL isn't done to be equal, it's done for the AFL lubs (wrong or right, doesn't matter). The result of this is that some clubs will benefit more than others!

[FlyingHigh]

What if: McGregor picked in Eagles league side, Crows lose and McGregor can't play after this weekend = no real reason for him to play, as you'd be better off playing someone who will be there GF, both for the experience and a settled side. BUT, then the 2's have a cut-throat game the day before, and you want your best team there, but you're not sure whether McGregor will need to be available for Crows the next week.

[Rik E Boy]

This is why I love Central/s. The End