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Re: Round 7 Centrals v Glenelg Saturday 1410
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Sun Aug 09, 2020 11:24 amby southernbulldog
Hope your right, there is no doubt the boys are trying just need to stay in the match longer and do whatever it takes to hang in .
Re: Round 7 Centrals v Glenelg Saturday 1410
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Sun Aug 09, 2020 12:58 pmby TDJ44
southernbulldog wrote:Hope your right, there is no doubt the boys are trying just need to stay in the match longer and do whatever it takes to hang in .
We'd want to get off to a better start than the last 2 games there.
8.3 to 0 in 2018 and 7.3 to 0.1 last year.
Re: Round 7 Centrals v Glenelg Saturday 1410
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Sun Aug 09, 2020 2:18 pmby Groucho
In the Sunday Mail match report Glenelg Coach, Mark Stone said "Central is a very, very proud club and mighty hard to beat out here and our record at this ground has not been great for many years."
I agree with him in that Central are indeed a very, very proud club. However yesterday's loss to Glenelg was the 11th consecutive loss by Central at Elizabeth. Glenelg won last year at Elizabeth by 49 points and won yesterday by 33 points. I will concede that until last year Glenelg hadn't won at Elizabeth since 2014, with the biggest loss by 97 points in 2017.
Central's record at Elizabeth since 2018 is 6 wins and 17 losses.
2018 5 - 5
2019 1 - 9
2020 0 - 3
Re: Round 7 Centrals v Glenelg Saturday 1410
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Sun Aug 09, 2020 2:19 pmby bulldogproud
Can't really question the effort of the boys; sadly, we are still making horrible skill errors that are costing us dearly. Glenelg scored 7 goals on Saturday from our basic turnovers with sloppy disposal, both kicks and handballs not hitting targets. Eliminate those (or at least severely reduce them) and we could jag one of the next two games.
Cheers
Re: Round 7 Centrals v Glenelg Saturday 1410
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Sun Aug 09, 2020 8:15 pmby am Bays
Without wanting to sound like I'm kicking a proud club when they're down, Central look and play like we did under Massie
Get it but are the turnover kings. We used to match sides for scores from stoppages, scores from frees and scores from marks (not to the same extent as the other two) but we used to get slaughtered in scores from turnovers. It wasnt uncommon for opposition scores from turnovers to be the final margin
My other abiding memory of Centrals under Roy was that you's go out there and the ground would be worn out in certain areas. Centrals were so well drilled that you could see their movement patterns at training and sure enough players would run those patterns in games. This meant the player with the ball knew where their team mates were running so they knew where to kick. Centrals under Roy were so efficient.
You had a young lad from Darwin play 18s on the weekend, Brodie Lake. Member of the Gold Coast suns Academy, played the All stars game last AFL GF day but not getting any game time so has come down to enhance his chances of getting drafted.
IF not picked up he'll be a recruit for you next year. Good kid
Re: Round 7 Centrals v Glenelg Saturday 1410
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Sun Aug 09, 2020 9:37 pmby Pseudo
am Bays wrote: Central look and play like we did under Massie
Re: Round 7 Centrals v Glenelg Saturday 1410
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Mon Aug 10, 2020 7:51 amby gazzamagoo
You had a young lad from Darwin play 18s on the weekend, Brodie Lake. Member of the Gold Coast suns Academy, played the All stars game last AFL GF day but not getting any game time so has come down to enhance his chances of getting drafted.
IF not picked up he'll be a recruit for you next year. Good kid[/quote]
Is he 195 cms or taller and 95 kgs or heavier?
Re: Round 7 Centrals v Glenelg Saturday 1410
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Mon Aug 10, 2020 8:39 amby am Bays
gazzamagoo wrote:You had a young lad from Darwin play 18s on the weekend, Brodie Lake. Member of the Gold Coast suns Academy, played the All stars game last AFL GF day but not getting any game time so has come down to enhance his chances of getting drafted.
IF not picked up he'll be a recruit for you next year. Good kid
Is he 195 cms or taller and 95 kgs or heavier?[/quote]
Nope 186 Cm and 70kg. ATM, has a 2.8 s 20 m, and a 21 yo-yo.
Re: Round 7 Centrals v Glenelg Saturday 1410
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Mon Aug 10, 2020 8:42 amby whufc
am Bays wrote:Without wanting to sound like I'm kicking a proud club when they're down, Central look and play like we did under Massie
Get it but are the turnover kings. We used to match sides for scores from stoppages, scores from frees and scores from marks (not to the same extent as the other two) but we used to get slaughtered in scores from turnovers. It wasnt uncommon for opposition scores from turnovers to be the final margin
My other abiding memory of Centrals under Roy was that you's go out there and the ground would be worn out in certain areas. Centrals were so well drilled that you could see their movement patterns at training and sure enough players would run those patterns in games. This meant the player with the ball knew where their team mates were running so they knew where to kick. Centrals under Roy were so efficient.
You had a young lad from Darwin play 18s on the weekend, Brodie Lake. Member of the Gold Coast suns Academy, played the All stars game last AFL GF day but not getting any game time so has come down to enhance his chances of getting drafted.
IF not picked up he'll be a recruit for you next year. Good kid
Your 100% right about the old Laird style. That clear structure and formation was exactly why Centrals could recruit a player from another club who were ok without being great but then have them fit into the structures immediately and become extremely successful players.
Re: Round 7 Centrals v Glenelg Saturday 1410
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Mon Aug 10, 2020 8:49 amby whufc
I guess the turnovers have to be looked in 3 parts.
-Is it the skill level, are players just simply missing the right targets.
-Are the skills ok but the players are making poor decisions
-Is it the offensive players not running to the right areas making the kickers job impossible
From what I've seen it's probably case of a bit of all 3 which is going to be a tough task to turnaround without simply turning over the playing squad. There will be those that know better than me but I struggle to believe you can improve the kicking skills of 20+ year old player dramatically by the time they reach SANFL level. All the hard yards are done during their junior seasons. I do think however you can educate and improve their knowledge of the game, plan and structure and improve ones decision making over time.
Re: Round 7 Centrals v Glenelg Saturday 1410
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Mon Aug 10, 2020 9:04 amby gazzamagoo
am Bays wrote:gazzamagoo wrote:You had a young lad from Darwin play 18s on the weekend, Brodie Lake. Member of the Gold Coast suns Academy, played the All stars game last AFL GF day but not getting any game time so has come down to enhance his chances of getting drafted.
IF not picked up he'll be a recruit for you next year. Good kid
Is he 195 cms or taller and 95 kgs or heavier?
Nope 186 Cm and 70kg. ATM, has a 2.8 s 20 m, and a 21 yo-yo.
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no thanks.
Re: Round 7 Centrals v Glenelg Saturday 1410
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Mon Aug 10, 2020 10:16 amby smac
gazzamagoo wrote:am Bays wrote:gazzamagoo wrote:You had a young lad from Darwin play 18s on the weekend, Brodie Lake. Member of the Gold Coast suns Academy, played the All stars game last AFL GF day but not getting any game time so has come down to enhance his chances of getting drafted.
IF not picked up he'll be a recruit for you next year. Good kid
Is he 195 cms or taller and 95 kgs or heavier?
Nope 186 Cm and 70kg. ATM, has a 2.8 s 20 m, and a 21 yo-yo.
no thanks.[/quote]
Hang on, let's not be hasty. Is it one of those fanta yoyos?
Our skills are terrible, have been for years, it's an indictment on the club if we're realistic, a lot of these kids we're blooding now came through our junior program, pretty basic step to improve their skills.
Having said that, the standard of the comp isn't what it was so applying ourselves for a full game, or at least a lot more than 2 - 2.5 quarters, will see a win at some stage.
Half time raffle still going strong and is the highlight of my day at the footy.
Re: Round 7 Centrals v Glenelg Saturday 1410
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Mon Aug 10, 2020 12:29 pmby StrayDog
gazzamagoo wrote:Groucho wrote:Another loss. It was expected but 3 goals better than predicted.
Positives: We kicked more than 10 goals and outscored Glenelg in the 2nd and 4th quarter.
Great games from Troy Menzel, Travis Schiller, Jarrod Schiller and James Boyd. Enjoyed my favourite player Justin Hoskin and 2 goals from Murray Stephenson.
At least the Glenelg supporters enjoyed the game.
Negatives: We lost. 7 to go.
We're getting closer,
I think we'll beat Sturt, we're due for one at Unley & they're not travelling too well at the moment.
Unfamiliar (thankfully) territory for the 'Dogs being, I feel, spoon fortnight against Sturt, who are a game and a half off the bottom, and West, who are a game and only two to three goals of percentage ahead at the mid point.
As much as this year might be an effectively "back to the ol' drawing board", I'd like to think the possibility of this breed being the CDFC's first league spooner in 43 years, and only third overall, will drive every one of our lads to put in their level best.
Re: Round 7 Centrals v Glenelg Saturday 1410
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Mon Aug 10, 2020 2:48 pmby bulldogproud
Some good signs in the Ressies - Connor McLean and Ben Kelly both played very good games; could certainly bolster our forward line. I would also like to see Fraser Fort back in the one's; also good to see Ryan Falkenberg playing again.
Cheers
Re: Round 7 Centrals v Glenelg Saturday 1410
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Mon Aug 10, 2020 7:19 pmby southernbulldog
I could be facetious and say we wont pick any of them because they are to tall,but surely we must have at least 1 come in
Re: Round 7 Centrals v Glenelg Saturday 1410
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Thu Aug 13, 2020 5:58 pmby bulldogproud
southernbulldog wrote:I could be facetious and say we wont pick any of them because they are to tall,but surely we must have at least 1 come in
You were right....all are still in the Ressies!
Re: Round 7 Centrals v Glenelg Saturday 1410
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Thu Aug 13, 2020 6:02 pmby TDJ44
bulldogproud wrote:southernbulldog wrote:I could be facetious and say we wont pick any of them because they are to tall,but surely we must have at least 1 come in
You were right....all are still in the Ressies!
Yep what a joke and we pick Marsh who is not even a good reserves player.