WHO IS YOUR SIDES WORST EVER CAPTAIN ?

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Postby smac » Thu Mar 01, 2007 5:41 pm

2001-2003 stands out like a glass eye in that lot MP...

I would take a punt at Trigg or perhaps Greg Smith in my time. Whilst the names all sound great for the dogs, not many of them were able to contribute to a shift of the culture at the club - the captains from Girdham onwards have contributed in this regard.
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Postby Barto » Thu Mar 01, 2007 6:53 pm

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Postby Macca19 » Thu Mar 01, 2007 9:21 pm

Statistically in terms of what the team did its one of Clayton, Brown or Poole, although all of them I would call at least above average footballers. I dunno. Too hard.
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Postby Jimmy » Thu Mar 01, 2007 11:44 pm

in my time following sturt ive seen captains like whittlesea, paynter, thredgold (CHAMPION), maloney and nelson. All champions, so none for this topic from me :D
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Postby G » Fri Mar 02, 2007 12:29 am

I'm not having a go at the Double Blues but there are not many footy followers who would classify Thredgold, Maloney or Nelson as champions. Without delving too deeply into Sturts skippers, the answer to the original question may well be listed in the above sentence.
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Postby bayman » Fri Mar 02, 2007 6:23 pm

Jimmy wrote:in my time following sturt ive seen captains like whittlesea, paynter, thredgold (CHAMPION), maloney and nelson. All champions, so none for this topic from me :D



i would not think any of the above are champions (two played at the bay :wink: )
whittlesea great player who always tried
paynter class act
threadgold a dour defender who ended up being too slow & thus missed the grand final
maloney good solid player
nelson classy

thats my summaries of them & i cant class any of them as champions
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Postby GWW » Fri Mar 02, 2007 8:36 pm

As a supporter of another club i used to love watching Paynter play footy, immaculate skills, not that far off being a champion IMO.
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Postby giffo » Fri Mar 02, 2007 8:51 pm

I don't know about a worst but if it was "most inspirational" it would be a toss up between Dean Mobbs and Danny Hulm.
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Postby Pseudo » Fri Mar 02, 2007 10:56 pm

bayman wrote:threadgold a dour defender who ended up being too slow & thus missed the grand final

... and a bloke who liked to mouth off at & rough up 17 year old opponents after the final siren. I have a clear memory of Phil Carman sprinting from the coaches box to pull this arsehole off of a kid who was doing his best to ignore the attention. Have had a low opinion of Threadgold - and a higher opinion of Carman - ever since.
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Postby Coorong » Fri Mar 02, 2007 11:05 pm

giffo wrote:I don't know about a worst but if it was "most inspirational" it would be a toss up between Dean Mobbs and Danny Hulm.


I played against Mobbsy and later did business with him at Shearers. A bloody top bloke.
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Postby Jimmy » Fri Mar 02, 2007 11:25 pm

G wrote:I'm not having a go at the Double Blues but there are not many footy followers who would classify Thredgold, Maloney or Nelson as champions. Without delving too deeply into Sturts skippers, the answer to the original question may well be listed in the above sentence.


maybe not champions in your eyes ;) but i respect your opinions :D

but champion double blue players and you wont find any sturt fans disagree with me there.

also, i highly doubt a 'worst' can be found amongst what you say....that i cant agree with.

id like to hear your reasons why?
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Postby G » Sat Mar 03, 2007 1:43 am

Re Jimmy - I can assure you Im not having a personal dig at Sturt and Im actually a good friend of both your past and current coach. Realistically though, Thredgold wasnt deemed good enough to play in your G.F. win and that is a pretty big statement to make when it concerns your skipper. In regards to Nelson, he is generally recognised as a top clubman who doesnt shirk an issue and a good player at SANFL level - no more, no less. I admit Im not really qualified to comment on Maloney as I didnt really see enough of him.
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Postby sturt1 » Sat Mar 03, 2007 6:53 am

I dont think any of the non Sturt supporters know enough about how good our captains have been over the years. When you watch these blokes play week after week then you can comment on what sort of leaders they have been.

Regarding Thredgold apart from the fact that the man led us through our hardest and lowest part of our clubs history and helped us get back up the top of ladder, his performance in the 98 grand final keeping hodges to 0 goals was incredible. He could have easily played in the 2002 premiership side and we still would have won. Maloney and Nelson both great leaders in their own right.

I think most clubs have got it right most of the time in picking their captain. I cant pick a "worst" for the Blues.
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Postby Hondo » Sat Mar 03, 2007 8:18 am

I am not sure that this was the greatest thread topic .... I think it will end in tears and some good and loyal SANFL players are getting bagged out. Can we just delete it altogether?
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Postby Adelaide Hawk » Sat Mar 03, 2007 12:19 pm

hondo71 wrote:I am not sure that this was the greatest thread topic .... I think it will end in tears and some good and loyal SANFL players are getting bagged out. Can we just delete it altogether?


I agree. And to honest, nobody really knows what sort of job a captain is doing unless we are living in the inner sactum of a club. Most football supporters can really only judge a captain's performance by the way he plays his footy which is only a part of the job.

As a Hawthorn supporter, it drive me nuts listening to people (who really wouldn't have a clue) bagging Richard Vandenberg as captain of the Hawks, when the truth is he is doing a superb job as a leader, steering the youngsters in the club and supporting the coaching network.

I agree Hondo71, let's end this thread right here. No good can come out of it.
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Postby Jimmy » Sat Mar 03, 2007 1:43 pm

G wrote:Re Jimmy - I can assure you Im not having a personal dig at Sturt and Im actually a good friend of both your past and current coach. Realistically though, Thredgold wasnt deemed good enough to play in your G.F. win and that is a pretty big statement to make when it concerns your skipper. In regards to Nelson, he is generally recognised as a top clubman who doesnt shirk an issue and a good player at SANFL level - no more, no less. I admit Im not really qualified to comment on Maloney as I didnt really see enough of him.


thats fine mate, but your missing what thredders did the previous 10 years....for that he is an absolute champion and loyal player. Granted he was on the slide in 02 but that shouldnt blind ppl to what he did previously or label him as 'worst'.

shagga wasnt around enough as captain but he was an honest player who helped us out of a slump. A very, very good player for the double blues.
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Postby Hafey » Tue Mar 06, 2007 7:43 pm

Would have to be Ralph Sewer , wasnt a good leader on or off the field ..... especially off field .
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Postby sturt1 » Tue Mar 06, 2007 9:09 pm

sturt1 wrote:I dont think any of the non Sturt supporters know enough about how good our captains have been over the years. When you watch these blokes play week after week then you can comment on what sort of leaders they have been.

Regarding Thredgold apart from the fact that the man led us through our hardest and lowest part of our clubs history and helped us get back up the top of ladder, his performance in the 98 grand final keeping hodges to 0 goals was incredible. He could have easily played in the 2002 premiership side and we still would have won. Maloney and Nelson both great leaders in their own right.

I think most clubs have got it right most of the time in picking their captain. I cant pick a "worst" for the Blues.


Thredders reminds of Alan Border in the way he captained his team. Took over at the hardest time possible and helped create a powerhouse of a side. :D
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Postby XXXXRooster » Tue Mar 06, 2007 9:55 pm

How do the Centrals guys on here remember Brett Hannams stint as skipper, seeing as he came over from the ACT with 'Cowboy' and was made skipper in his 2nd(of the 3yrs he played) yr at the club.
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Postby McAlmanac » Tue Mar 06, 2007 11:50 pm

Hafey wrote:Would have to be Ralph Sewer , wasnt a good leader on or off the field ..... especially off field .

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