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Postby rod_rooster » Mon May 21, 2007 11:18 pm

Wedgie wrote:Also I should add on my original post I meant to type "I don't think there's ever been an incident at Elizabeth Oval on a Saturday night when the Dogs have won".


Not true Wedgie. At the trial game between North and Central last year there were a couple of incidents. The light tower in the Grand Central corner of the ground blew late in the last term. :lol:

A couple of Central supporters had a bit of a blue out the back near Grand Central as well but that was more amusing that anything else.
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Postby BPBRB » Mon May 21, 2007 11:28 pm

giffo wrote:
topsywaldron wrote:No crowd trouble at Elizabeth? What are Centrals fans going to moan about this week then?
Wait till next week when we can complain about the toilets at Prospect behind the Groggies bar :lol:


They are actually working well this year - it is a bit muddy getting to them in the rain but they haven't blocked up an overflowed so far this year - touch wood!
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Postby rod_rooster » Mon May 21, 2007 11:29 pm

BPBRB wrote:
giffo wrote:
topsywaldron wrote:No crowd trouble at Elizabeth? What are Centrals fans going to moan about this week then?
Wait till next week when we can complain about the toilets at Prospect behind the Groggies bar :lol:


They are actually working well this year - it is a bit muddy getting to them in the rain but they haven't blocked up an overflowed so far this year - touch wood!


well we know what's going to happen this week now :lol: :wink:
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Postby Dogwatcher » Tue May 22, 2007 9:33 am

topsywaldron wrote:No crowd trouble at Elizabeth? What are Centrals fans going to moan about this week then?


Your point being? Norwood were just as culpable for last week's incident as ours...
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Postby topsywaldron » Tue May 22, 2007 1:44 pm

Dogwatcher wrote:Your point being? Norwood were just as culpable for last week's incident as ours...


Exactly and the club has promised to review all procedures and scheduling.

What we didn't do was squeal like stuck pigs all week about it. There's an element of Dogs supporters whose readiness to arc up up at any injustice, perceived or otherwise, that gets tiresome at times especially given how good the team you support is.

I do hope the irony is not lost on the poster on the Dogs forum who labelled Norwood supporters 'dandies' on one hand while moaning about other clubs stereotyping Centrals supporters on the other. What a goose.
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Postby Dogwatcher » Tue May 22, 2007 2:05 pm

topsywaldron wrote: Exactly and the club has promised to review all procedures and scheduling.


That's great news - I hope it prevents rubbish like this from happening. Congratulations to your club.
Should've been done ages ago.

topsywaldron wrote: What we didn't do was squeal like stuck pigs all week about it. There's an element of Dogs supporters whose readiness to arc up up at any injustice, perceived or otherwise, that gets tiresome at times especially given how good the team you support is.


You didn't squeal like stuck pigs because the media wasn't sticking the boot into your club. The media were attacking the CDFC. The media, and posters on threads like this, all jumped on to labelling the one club and not the other - where the incident involved both sets of supporters. Some accounts even suggested it was set off by a Redlegs supporter - but that's not the point is it? The point is that Centrals supporters were involved.
While it may be tiresome that supporters like myself defend my club, it's pretty damn tiresome that it's always OUR fault.
Where was the positive press after the weekend's match against Port?
I heard very few negative words about your club in any of this. Yup - labelling people as 'Dandies' is stupid, like all stereotyping. But it must be nice to get off 'scott free' because of that rep.
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Postby smac » Tue May 22, 2007 2:07 pm

topsywaldron wrote:
Dogwatcher wrote:Your point being? Norwood were just as culpable for last week's incident as ours...


Exactly and the club has promised to review all procedures and scheduling.

What we didn't do was squeal like stuck pigs all week about it. There's an element of Dogs supporters whose readiness to arc up up at any injustice, perceived or otherwise, that gets tiresome at times especially given how good the team you support is.

I do hope the irony is not lost on the poster on the Dogs forum who labelled Norwood supporters 'dandies' on one hand while moaning about other clubs stereotyping Centrals supporters on the other. What a goose.
Coming from Captain Positive... Thanks for the psycho analysis topyourselfwaldron. :roll: (your signature is a clue to your outlook, I feel).

Of course your lot didn't squeal, the blame was lumped squarely at someone elses feet. I think you will find most dogs supporters were criticising the moron element, whilst also criticising those who were quick to lay blame without establishing what actually happened.
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Postby Dogwatcher » Tue May 22, 2007 2:17 pm

I've really got to stop involving myself in these debates.
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Re: no trouble at elizabeth

Postby Captain_Bulldog » Tue May 22, 2007 2:21 pm

bayman wrote:i sat in the family area with little bayman & one of his school mates & mal, & i saw NO TROUBLE OR INCIDENTS tonight so i think while we are all quick to 'have a go' at disgraceful incidents & tonight it should be made aware that there was no trouble at all from where we were sitting & the crowd should be praised for doing the 'right thing'

well done to the crowd at elizabeth


Cheers Bayman,
It's nice to hear someone from another club have some good words to say about Centrals crowds. I know there is just a small element that make the trouble, but after last week's usual rubbish from the media it was good to see plenty of security around the place and no trouble eventuated. So if CDFC can organise security to ensure there is no trouble, which there has not been at any night matches at Elizabeth last year and this year, why can't Norwood FC organise security for around Coopers Hill and outside the ground at the Parade end where the trouble nearly always happens when people have been drinking for a while. There have been past incidents at the Parade (not all involving Centrals either) and still there is no increas in security?? Isn't that asking for trouble? I don't agree with any trouble makers whoever they support, but at least make it harder for them, unless last week was all Centrals supports fighting each other, which is doubtful considering it was started by a Norwood supporter... typical media only give one club a bad name and the the others get away ...
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Postby doggies4eva » Tue May 22, 2007 2:48 pm

topsywaldron wrote:
Dogwatcher wrote:Your point being? Norwood were just as culpable for last week's incident as ours...


Exactly and the club has promised to review all procedures and scheduling.

What we didn't do was squeal like stuck pigs all week about it. There's an element of Dogs supporters whose readiness to arc up up at any injustice, perceived or otherwise, that gets tiresome at times especially given how good the team you support is.

I do hope the irony is not lost on the poster on the Dogs forum who labelled Norwood supporters 'dandies' on one hand while moaning about other clubs stereotyping Centrals supporters on the other. What a goose.


Dandies? How mean! I hope it didn't hurt your feelings but at least its original. I get a bit tired reading the same insults about us doggies supporters - feral unemployed stealers of hub-caps sort of thing. You can call me a dandy if it makes you feel better.
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Postby topsywaldron » Tue May 22, 2007 3:40 pm

doggies4eva wrote: I get a bit tired reading the same insults about us doggies supporters - feral unemployed stealers of hub-caps sort of thing.


As opposed to latte sipping, Liberal voting Norwood poofter. Each club in the other team's supporters eyes is characterised somehow, it's just that some clubs supporters deal with it better than others.
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Postby Dogwatcher » Tue May 22, 2007 3:57 pm

topsywaldron wrote:
doggies4eva wrote: I get a bit tired reading the same insults about us doggies supporters - feral unemployed stealers of hub-caps sort of thing.


As opposed to latte sipping, Liberal voting Norwood poofter. Each club in the other team's supporters eyes is characterised somehow, it's just that some clubs supporters deal with it better than others.


Hmmm...really tough stereotype to get angry over.

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Postby JK » Tue May 22, 2007 4:04 pm

Dogwatcher wrote:
topsywaldron wrote:
doggies4eva wrote: I get a bit tired reading the same insults about us doggies supporters - feral unemployed stealers of hub-caps sort of thing.


As opposed to latte sipping, Liberal voting Norwood poofter. Each club in the other team's supporters eyes is characterised somehow, it's just that some clubs supporters deal with it better than others.


Hmmm...really tough stereotype to get angry over.


Irrelevant to the point I think TW is trying to make
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Postby Dogwatcher » Tue May 22, 2007 4:10 pm

I don't think it is irrelevant.

I resent being called a feral. I've had one fight (not on the football field) in my life. I'm educated and I haven't got a police rap, let alone stolen a hub cap.

Yep, you're right, people do handle stereotypes differently. But the level of disdain for a 'feral, hub cup stealing jail bird' is much higher than that for a 'latte sipper', as most people would like to think if they are stereotyped, that they'd be in the latter and not the former. Hence the very different reactions such stereotypes provoke.

Being called a latte sipper makes people laugh. Being called a feral makes people angry - some of us unfortunately can't deal with that anger.
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Postby smac » Tue May 22, 2007 4:11 pm

A more appropriate response to the point would be...

Do you get labelled with that stereotype every time a supporter of any club has a latte at the footy? Every time someone votes liberal? Every time two blokes 'enjoy each other's company' without pants on? Does it hit the headlines or get talked about on 5AA?

I didn't think so.
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Postby topsywaldron » Tue May 22, 2007 4:16 pm

You've got no idea how much the upper class yuppie stereotype pisses me off. How is it any different?

And I drink flat whites, not lattes. A huge difference.
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Postby doggies4eva » Wed May 23, 2007 8:30 pm

topsywaldron wrote:You've got no idea how much the upper class yuppie stereotype pisses me off. How is it any different?

And I drink flat whites, not lattes. A huge difference.


Funny thing is I have never thought of calling Norwood supporters Latte drinkers even in jest. That's not my image of opposition supporters when I visit Norwood oval. But these sort of comments in context can be humorous ONCE. I think its the repeating that gets tedious. I think an appropriate insult (which I admit to indulging in when on the mound at the footy) has to have a degree of originality and delivery to get a laugh. Without humour its inappropriate.
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Postby BPBRB » Thu May 24, 2007 9:03 am

Maybe we should have a topic/thread to discuss a "stereo typical" name or title for each club's supporter base along with a defintion and reasoning for the title? Then we can all argue (I mean discuss!) whether we actually fit those stereotypes? A topic like that should ensure that the thread was never closed and just continually went round in circles. It would become known as the "one legged duck" topic.... :roll:
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Postby Coorong » Thu May 24, 2007 9:16 am

Well, I am a long black, chivas,VB drinking, lover of slim brunette's, Bloods supporter. Stereo type me please. waiting for REB to come online!
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Postby BPBRB » Thu May 24, 2007 9:23 am

Coorong wrote:Well, I am a long black, chivas,VB drinking, lover of slim brunette's, Bloods supporter. Stereo type me please. waiting for REB to come online!


You missed "old" in your description graham??? :wink:
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