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Postby Aerie » Thu May 24, 2007 2:28 am

McAlmanac wrote:With due respect, all those quotes are from over 20 years ago. How is Sturt's supporter base today? Over and above other teams?


I would say the top 3 these days would be Port, Central and then Norwood. Sturt would be slightly above North, but supporters of both these clubs drastically disappear when not winning. Glenelg and Eagles would be similar, but perhaps Glenelg have the capability of joining North and Sturt if they had some years of playing finals. South and then West last.

In terms of selling out a Grand Final I would say Port, Central, Norwood, Sturt, North, Glenelg, Eagles, South and West in that order.

South are the club that I think could make a big improvement in terms of supporter numbers. Much like Central have done in the last 15 years.
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Postby silent hour » Thu May 24, 2007 8:51 am

I know this is a bit out of left field but why not have the GF teams from Amateur Div 1 play the curtain raiser to the SANFL GF teams on Anzac day?

And like what was previously mentioned there has to be some very big promotion by both the SANFL and the SAAFL.
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Postby HeartBeatsTrue » Thu May 24, 2007 9:46 am

Here's a wacky idea if the Anzac game is all about maximising attendance.

Find the single highest attendance in a match in 2007.
The teams that played off in that match play on Anzac Day 2008.
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Postby doggies4eva » Thu May 24, 2007 9:47 am

HeartBeatsTrue wrote:Here's a wacky idea if the Anzac game is all about maximising attendance.

Find the single highest attendance in a match in 2007.
The teams that played off in that match play on Anzac Day 2008.


Um lets guess - I know, it will be the Grand Final :?
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Postby HeartBeatsTrue » Thu May 24, 2007 10:13 am

Should have given that more thought!!

Biggest crowd in minor round then.

Power should drop Tredders once when the Magpies play Norwood. Guaranteed every year. Although West could have a crack if the Roo plays a match in the SANFL ;)
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Postby doggies4eva » Thu May 24, 2007 10:52 am

HeartBeatsTrue wrote:Should have given that more thought!!

Biggest crowd in minor round then.

Power should drop Tredders once when the Magpies play Norwood. Guaranteed every year. Although West could have a crack if the Roo plays a match in the SANFL ;)


Now that's an idea. North should also save Hart for Doggies games. Even I like Hart he should help build the crowd.
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Postby LBJ8 » Thu May 24, 2007 11:19 am

Aerie wrote:
McAlmanac wrote:With due respect, all those quotes are from over 20 years ago. How is Sturt's supporter base today? Over and above other teams?


I would say the top 3 these days would be Port, Central and then Norwood. Sturt would be slightly above North, but supporters of both these clubs drastically disappear when not winning. Glenelg and Eagles would be similar, but perhaps Glenelg have the capability of joining North and Sturt if they had some years of playing finals. South and then West last.

In terms of selling out a Grand Final I would say Port, Central, Norwood, Sturt, North, Glenelg, Eagles, South and West in that order.

South are the club that I think could make a big improvement in terms of supporter numbers. Much like Central have done in the last 15 years.


Very good post, agree with pretty much everything but i would have Norwood with Sturt and North together, Port and Central are the two standouts atm, imho.
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Postby - » Thu May 24, 2007 11:55 am

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spell_check wrote:I was thinking that myself. Two games on ANZAC Day would mean that both matches should get more than what they normally do.

If one of Port and Norwood get into the Grand Final, what would happen then? Do they go for Port/Norwood still or have the Grand Finallists play off and the other team play say Sturt or whoever?


Classic how Sturt always get mentioned next :roll:


That was the first team off the top of my head...

If it makes you feel better I thought of Sturt, then North, then Central. But Central is likely to be in the GF anyway. :wink:

But I agree with md, Pseudo and Bruce as well.


No it doesnt make me feel better because of course North was next.
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Postby - » Thu May 24, 2007 11:58 am

eddie eagle wrote:Pathetic suggestion by the clueless richardson, he should try get his struggling club to actually make a grand final and earn the right.

Perhaps etheton should play a double header at adelaide oval. Join with port power at their potential new ground ....this will help port power actually pull a crowd, and just maybe half fill the oval.


Eddie Eagle.

There isnt another SANFL club that would get close to 20,000. Not even your pair of clubs put together. Port consistently beat 25,000.
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Postby - » Thu May 24, 2007 12:04 pm

Aerie wrote:
McAlmanac wrote:With due respect, all those quotes are from over 20 years ago. How is Sturt's supporter base today? Over and above other teams?


I would say the top 3 these days would be Port, Central and then Norwood. Sturt would be slightly above North, but supporters of both these clubs drastically disappear when not winning. Glenelg and Eagles would be similar, but perhaps Glenelg have the capability of joining North and Sturt if they had some years of playing finals. South and then West last.

In terms of selling out a Grand Final I would say Port, Central, Norwood, Sturt, North, Glenelg, Eagles, South and West in that order.

South are the club that I think could make a big improvement in terms of supporter numbers. Much like Central have done in the last 15 years.


You are overrating Centrals there is no way they have more supporters than North or Sturt. If Glenelg got going they would have more too. Infact Id say Glenelg above North below Sturt. Thats if you surveyed households.
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Postby BPBRB » Thu May 24, 2007 12:09 pm

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Aerie wrote:
McAlmanac wrote:With due respect, all those quotes are from over 20 years ago. How is Sturt's supporter base today? Over and above other teams?


I would say the top 3 these days would be Port, Central and then Norwood. Sturt would be slightly above North, but supporters of both these clubs drastically disappear when not winning. Glenelg and Eagles would be similar, but perhaps Glenelg have the capability of joining North and Sturt if they had some years of playing finals. South and then West last.

In terms of selling out a Grand Final I would say Port, Central, Norwood, Sturt, North, Glenelg, Eagles, South and West in that order.

South are the club that I think could make a big improvement in terms of supporter numbers. Much like Central have done in the last 15 years.


You are overrating Centrals there is no way they have more supporters than North or Sturt. If Glenelg got going they would have more too. Infact Id say Glenelg above North below Sturt. Thats if you surveyed households.


Geez Dasher you come up with some sweeping statements??? :shock: I think your statement about Centrasl support is way off beam. Even in the 70's and 80's when Centrals rarely made finals and then went out without a win they had a big following.
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Postby Aerie » Thu May 24, 2007 12:10 pm

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eddie eagle wrote:Pathetic suggestion by the clueless richardson, he should try get his struggling club to actually make a grand final and earn the right.

Perhaps etheton should play a double header at adelaide oval. Join with port power at their potential new ground ....this will help port power actually pull a crowd, and just maybe half fill the oval.


Eddie Eagle.

There isnt another SANFL club that would get close to 20,000. Not even your pair of clubs put together. Port consistently beat 25,000.


You think Port would get 25,000 to an ANZAC game? No chance. And if you're talking about Port Power, they aren't an SANFL club.

And Central have a much larger following than North.
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Postby - » Thu May 24, 2007 12:48 pm

Aerie wrote:
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eddie eagle wrote:Pathetic suggestion by the clueless richardson, he should try get his struggling club to actually make a grand final and earn the right.

Perhaps etheton should play a double header at adelaide oval. Join with port power at their potential new ground ....this will help port power actually pull a crowd, and just maybe half fill the oval.


Eddie Eagle.

There isnt another SANFL club that would get close to 20,000. Not even your pair of clubs put together. Port consistently beat 25,000.


You think Port would get 25,000 to an ANZAC game? No chance. And if you're talking about Port Power, they aren't an SANFL club.

And Central have a much larger following than North.



Im obviously referring to AFL. Eddie Eagle has his stupid little dig at Port crowds in the AFL. The facts are that Port and the Kangaroos have the smallest supporter bases. Port against a team from another state get 25,000. Kang, Melb, Bulldogs are lucky to get 20,000 in that situation. Ive seen Carlton drop below 20,000 against a team from outside Melbourne. When have Port done that?
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Postby - » Thu May 24, 2007 12:50 pm

If you more experienced blokes say Central have a bigger following than North well fair enough. I doesnt make sense to me that a club that started in 1964 would have more than an established power. Anyway im obviously wrong.

If you surveyed households I reckon you would find Port, norwood, Sturt, North, Glenelg, Central.
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Postby doggies4eva » Thu May 24, 2007 1:15 pm

- wrote:If you more experienced blokes say Central have a bigger following than North well fair enough. I doesnt make sense to me that a club that started in 1964 would have more than an established power. Anyway im obviously wrong.

If you surveyed households I reckon you would find Port, norwood, Sturt, North, Glenelg, Central.


Yes but we are talking about numbers through the turnstiles. Armchair supporters add very little to the survival of their clubs.
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Postby therisingblues » Thu May 24, 2007 1:25 pm

As for the original topic, I think that a double header following the guidelines laid out by dash is a good idea. And in the event that Norwood and Port are the grand final sides from the previous year, then the other game would be between the next biggest crowd pullers.
In the early eighties and most of the seventies there was the existence of the top four (in regards to crowds): Port, Sturt, Norwood and Glenelg. Outside of that I would have thought North would be next, but I remember Centrals had pretty well close to North's numbers also. In the old days I once heard a South supporter say that there are no more than 10,000 South fans in the whole of the state.
Nowadays Port would still have the biggest potential to pull a huge crowd, and for some unknown reason the truly huge minor round crowds that I remember of recent years have been at Port vs Norwood games. I reckon Centrals are pulling on their maximum amount of support they could rely upon right now, I mean they are the most successful side of the 2nd millienium, any droves of supporters that still remain hidden out there aren't ever going to show their faces if they haven't already. North have held their own pretty well regarding crowd figures, if they began taking the competition apart like Centrals have, then one would expect their numbers to increase. Sturt supporters just keep getting older, a tragic result of that torturous run we survived in the 90's, I think a generation of fans went elsewhere, unlike us old bastards that were blooded during healthier times. Glenelg have surprised me with the way their support has dropped off. I know a lot of people that are Bays fans that just don't go, or even care what happens in the SANFL. I think that Glenelg is the most abandoned club in the league.

Nowadays I think it would look like this in terms of drawing power for a big match:
Port, Norwood, Sturt, North, Centrals, Glenelg, Eagles, West, South.
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Re: Anzac Day football

Postby eaglehaslanded » Thu May 24, 2007 6:48 pm

- wrote:In the paper today the maggies ceo said he wanted Port Norwood back. He said its the best way to maximise crowds. He is correct. I don't think its fair though. My idea is to have a double header of last years grand finalists amd Port Norwood. If Port or Norwood make the gf the year before throw another team in. I think 5000 people is a waste of the opportunity of Anzac Day and somthing could be tried without getting rid of the tradition of the previous years grand finalists. With my modelI think 10000 is very realistic.


What is it about b@#*^y Port Adelaide. Because they haven't played a GF for a while they think there has to be some other way to muscle in on ANZAC tradition. Piss of Port and go back to shoving your head up your ass. Earn your way there or stop your pathetic whinging.
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Re: Anzac Day football

Postby doggies4eva » Thu May 24, 2007 6:49 pm

eaglehaslanded wrote:
- wrote:In the paper today the maggies ceo said he wanted Port Norwood back. He said its the best way to maximise crowds. He is correct. I don't think its fair though. My idea is to have a double header of last years grand finalists amd Port Norwood. If Port or Norwood make the gf the year before throw another team in. I think 5000 people is a waste of the opportunity of Anzac Day and somthing could be tried without getting rid of the tradition of the previous years grand finalists. With my modelI think 10000 is very realistic.


What is it about b@#*^y Port Adelaide. Because they haven't played a GF for a while they think there has to be some other way to muscle in on ANZAC tradition. Piss of Port and go back to shoving your head up your ass. Earn your way there or stop your pathetic whinging.


Does that mean that you are against the idea? :lol:
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Postby giffo » Thu May 24, 2007 8:33 pm

doggies4eva wrote:
- wrote:If you more experienced blokes say Central have a bigger following than North well fair enough. I doesnt make sense to me that a club that started in 1964 would have more than an established power. Anyway im obviously wrong.

If you surveyed households I reckon you would find Port, norwood, Sturt, North, Glenelg, Central.


Yes but we are talking about numbers through the turnstiles. Armchair supporters add very little to the survival of their clubs.
Spot on d4e. A random survey at work turned up 4 Sturt, 2 South, 3 Glenelg, 2 Port and a heap who only followed Adelaide or Power. Of all these people only myself and 1 Glenelg supporter actually go to their teams games! Most of the "established powers" supporters have faded into the sunset. Why else have Norwood moved their licensed facilities from the Parade to Gilles Plains? No supporters left at the Parade maybe?
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Postby cd » Thu May 24, 2007 10:17 pm

Personal Thoughts Only

Anzac Day is not about attendence it is about respect. Respect earnt by the Diggers.
You need to earn the right to play on Anzac day and have a chance to be awarded the Bob Quinn Medal.
You earn the right by being a grand finalist NOT because you train at Alberton or the Parade.

Why should 7 clubs players no longer have the opportunity to become a Bob Quinn medalist?
Why should 7 clubs who may have battled through adversity to get to the grand final be excluded from a Day of great earnt respect?

No clubs own Anzac Day and it isnt always about attendences and $

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