FIRST TEAM TO BEAT THE DOGS - WHO WILL IT BE?

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WHICH TEAM, IF ANY WILL DEFEAT THE DOGS FIRST?

NO-ONE - GO SEASON UNDEFEATED
15
14%
EAGLES
23
21%
PORT
6
5%
NORTH
7
6%
SOUTH
9
8%
STURT
22
20%
NORWOOD
13
12%
WEST
10
9%
GLENELG
6
5%
 
Total votes : 111

Postby doggies4eva » Sun May 27, 2007 1:10 pm

Aerie wrote:A few Central fans setting themselves up for a big fall later in the year...

From the small part I watched on tv yesterday, North were easily as good in every aspect except delivering into the forward line. Dogs flood back and North bombed it in.

How to beat Central?

For one, teams need to treat Callinan as they have come to treat Jeremy Clayton. Tag him with a very good player. Callinan does the simple things very well, being front and centre and his finishing is first class. Need a disciplined player to step on his toes every step of the way. I'd be using Colville if the Eagles were playing them.

Two, delivery into forward line needs to either be quick, or settle and wait for the right option. Schell and Grima mop up back there and they flood back as AFL teams do. Need to pick on there lesser back line players if possible and capitalise on opportunities.

Three, and probably the most important, is to match it with them for longer and for every minute. This requires concentration, fitness and hard work. 9 times out of 10 Central will crack open the opposition because they are the best at doing this. Teams need to be ready and willing for that 1 time they have the chance. Generally you need 7 or 8 quality midfielders you can run through there all game, because that is what Central have.

I still don't think the foot skills of Central are any where near as good as they were in 2005 and before. Under pressure there are a number of their players who make mistakes. Yes, Central are a very good side, but there are a number of teams who can and will beat them this year. It is still only May...


You make some good points Aerie. No doubt this will be the basis of opposition coaches plans, but note that Callinan was tagged yesterday and still kicked 4 goals. Roy has said all year that we have a fair bit of improving to do. Hopefully this improvement will click in about Septamber.

I couldn't vote for the team most likely to beat them because it wasn;t listed - the umpires. Their ability to frustrate some of our seasoned players is a concern.
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Postby Hazydog » Sun May 27, 2007 1:43 pm

Lets look at the next 4 matches.

West at Berri- West will fancy their chances of catching the Dogs napping on the basis that they have been "up" for 2 big games in the last fortnight. Also, Centrals humiliated them in the last trial match & it appears they are a much improved team since then. Could hinge on Cupido & Tippet being available.

Sturt at Unley- Again the Blues are playing above expectations & the Dogs havent lost at Unley since Sturt resumed playing there. Law of averages coming very much into play.

South at Noarlunga. Say no more. Not been a happy hunting ground for Centrals over the last couple of yesrs.

Eagles at Elizabeth. Seems to generally be the best chance of an Eagles win against the Dogs (statistically speaking)

Talk of going undefeated is fanciful & unrealistic. It wont happen.
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Postby BPBRB » Sun May 27, 2007 4:59 pm

doggies4eva wrote:
Aerie wrote:You make some good points Aerie. No doubt this will be the basis of opposition coaches plans, but note that Callinan was tagged yesterday and still kicked 4 goals. Roy has said all year that we have a fair bit of improving to do. Hopefully this improvement will click in about Septamber.

I couldn't vote for the team most likely to beat them because it wasn;t listed - the umpires. Their ability to frustrate some of our seasoned players is a concern.


He had one possession to halftime and only broke away when Krieg went off injured. He still is a quality players when you get 7 kicks and kick 4 good goals.
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Postby bosvit » Sun May 27, 2007 5:56 pm

Dog_ger wrote:Sturt is a good bet..!

The game after West at Berri.

Unley.

The Ghost of Jack walks there.

The Travel just may get to the un-defeated...

Not undefeated before Unley yet..... :roll: :lol: 8)
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Postby bulldogproud » Sun May 27, 2007 7:50 pm

What will undo Central and lead to a loss may be our training schedule and our two and a half game gap in top place. At various times of the season, sides train harder than at other times and carry those legs into games. I believe we will lose at least one game somewhere between here and round 16. We will then concentrate on gearing ourselves up for an assault on the finals.
Another thing that could undo us is injuries, although I pray they don't.
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Postby SDK » Sun May 27, 2007 8:53 pm

Well it wont be North !
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Postby johntheclaret » Sun May 27, 2007 10:19 pm

SDK wrote:Well it wont be North !


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Postby therisingblues » Sun May 27, 2007 10:49 pm

Jimmy wrote:
therisingblues wrote:Damn good question. I voted Eagles, but at this stage it looks as though they could go through undefeated. I got a feeling that the team that makes their plans come unstuck will be a rank outsider causing an upset. A team like West, or South, for example, go in hard all day and the Dogs don't prepare as they should for it.


see above post mate ;)

im putting it out there but what the hell :)


I know in theory there shouldn't be any harm in suggesting it, but I don't want to make a prediction like that in case we piss them off and they give us a double thumping just to shut us up. :( Although there will be plenty of interest in the game, with our coach facing up to his old team for the first time. It will also be interesting to see just how far off their pace we are. But the upcoming encounter at Unley would have to be marked down as a win to the Dogs at this stage. Our losses to Norwood, Eagles and North have placed a limit on the scope of miracles I dare contemplate this year. Beating Centrals isn't one of them.
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Postby Thiele » Sun May 27, 2007 10:57 pm

Hazydog wrote:Lets look at the next 4 matches.

West at Berri- West will fancy their chances of catching the Dogs napping on the basis that they have been "up" for 2 big games in the last fortnight. Also, Centrals humiliated them in the last trial match & it appears they are a much improved team since then. Could hinge on Cupido & Tippet being available.


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Re: FIRST TEAM TO BEAT THE DOGS - WHO WILL IT BE?

Postby MightyEagles » Mon May 28, 2007 11:39 am

Eagles to beat Centrals, dosen't matter when as long as we beat them in the GF again.
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Re: FIRST TEAM TO BEAT THE DOGS - WHO WILL IT BE?

Postby Grahaml » Mon May 28, 2007 5:39 pm

You've won your final. We get the next 8 again.
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Re: FIRST TEAM TO BEAT THE DOGS - WHO WILL IT BE?

Postby giffo » Mon May 28, 2007 8:44 pm

Anywhere between rnd 12-15 will be the danger period to me, as the legs start getting tired. Who worked out the fixture? 13 rounds between byes in rnd 3 & 16? I would've thought that the bye would've come around every 9 rounds.
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Re: FIRST TEAM TO BEAT THE DOGS - WHO WILL IT BE?

Postby Aerie » Mon May 28, 2007 8:59 pm

giffo wrote:Anywhere between rnd 12-15 will be the danger period to me, as the legs start getting tired. Who worked out the fixture? 13 rounds between byes in rnd 3 & 16? I would've thought that the bye would've come around every 9 rounds.


That would require 27 rounds...
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Re: FIRST TEAM TO BEAT THE DOGS - WHO WILL IT BE?

Postby Grahaml » Mon May 28, 2007 9:02 pm

I'm going to go out on a limb and say it's mathematically impossible to have the bye every 9 rounds, to not have some teams playing twice before some teams have met at all and have all teams play 20 games without extending the season by a month.
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Re: FIRST TEAM TO BEAT THE DOGS - WHO WILL IT BE?

Postby giffo » Mon May 28, 2007 9:13 pm

What I'm trying to get at is that some teams have their byes spread nicely (Port: 10,16,22; Norwood: 2, 11, 19), whilst others seem to be a long way between drinks (Central 3,16,23; Glenelg: 1,8,20).
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Re: FIRST TEAM TO BEAT THE DOGS - WHO WILL IT BE?

Postby therisingblues » Mon May 28, 2007 9:27 pm

It should be possible for every team to have a bye once every 6 to 7 weeks I think, and not meet any team twice befoer having played all other teams. Perhaps what confuses the order of the draw is the "wish list" that the clubs give the SANFL before the draw is decided, to fit everything in and safisfy as many requests as possible the SANFL has juggled things around a bit.
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Re: FIRST TEAM TO BEAT THE DOGS - WHO WILL IT BE?

Postby Jar Man Out » Mon May 28, 2007 9:42 pm

the bye in the last round could make it interesting for the dogs.
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Re: FIRST TEAM TO BEAT THE DOGS - WHO WILL IT BE?

Postby giffo » Mon May 28, 2007 10:11 pm

We've overcome it before.
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Postby Grahaml » Mon May 28, 2007 10:20 pm

I think there should be another option: Central's reserves when they play an internal trial in september to make up for lack of matches.
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Re: FIRST TEAM TO BEAT THE DOGS - WHO WILL IT BE?

Postby Bluedemon » Tue May 29, 2007 3:55 pm

GO YOU DOUBLE BLUES
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