port...has the mental edge dissapeared ?

[therisingblues]

Agree with that MickyJ. Interesting that on the AFL website this week they ran a story about John Cahill because of the heritage round. (Great that, I thought, a pre-AFL, SANFL icon getting a mention within the same idea as "heritage". Maybe they are waking up east of the border to us having a league before they waved their magic wand.) In the story Cahill says something to the affect that at Collingwood they had a group recruited from all over Australia, and part of his job was to unite the group as well as make them successful. The way I read it was that he meant that he never had to do this at Port, and he says a bit about the Port team having an understanding of what Port is and means, and that everyone was more or less already united basically because they were all in awe of the Magpie tradition. You could say that Cahill was a great coach but could only communicate his ideas within the frame work of where he learnt them all, ie. Alberton.

[Aerie]

Agree with that MickyJ. Interesting that on the AFL website this week they ran a story about John Cahill because of the heritage round. (Great that, I thought, a pre-AFL, SANFL icon getting a mention within the same idea as "heritage". Maybe they are waking up east of the border to us having a league before they waved their magic wand.) In the story Cahill says something to the affect that at Collingwood they had a group recruited from all over Australia, and part of his job was to unite the group as well as make them successful. The way I read it was that he meant that he never had to do this at Port, and he says a bit about the Port team having an understanding of what Port is and means, and that everyone was more or less already united basically because they were all in awe of the Magpie tradition. You could say that Cahill was a great coach but could only communicate his ideas within the frame work of where he learnt them all, ie. Alberton.

This is a very interesting point. I would suggest that this is the case now at all levels. Especially at AFL, but even at SANFL. The old play for the jumper is a thing of the past at all clubs. Players play for the moment and the best coach and club at the time reap the rewards.

[Magpiespower]

Have any of the Port adelaide flag winning coaches won flags at any other SANFL clubs?

No.

Shine Hosking coached Torrens to the 1933 premiership.

And can we get footage of the Josh Carr bump from the 1998 Grand Final?

[LBT]

Josh Carr??? he was playing in WA in 98.

[sydney-dog]

mental edge has long been gone

the only club that believe the mental edge is still their, is Port

[spell_check]

Have any of the Port adelaide flag winning coaches won flags at any other SANFL clubs?

No.

Shine Hosking coached Torrens to the 1933 premiership.

And can we get footage of the Josh Carr bump from the 1998 Grand Final?

Stumped again!

[Hondo]

I think Centrals have broken the seal for the other clubs and they all feel confident now that they can match Port. I see it as the other clubs stepping up to match and now better them, rather than Port slipping.

We have to remember that through the 90s Port were able to attract funds and quality recruits as they built up to their AFL entry and so they arguably had an advantage over the other teams. An advantage that disappeared once the Power started. They won 9 flags in 12 seasons 1988-1999 but have barely troubled the scorers in finals since then.

The wheel will turn though as it always does. Soon some team will take Centrals' place as the power team of the comp.

[Mickyj]

Have any of the Port adelaide flag winning coaches won flags at any other SANFL clubs?

No.

Shine Hosking coached Torrens to the 1933 premiership.

And can we get footage of the Josh Carr bump from the 1998 Grand Final?

So he would pre date the fos williams era.

[Rik E Boy]

There intimidating style worked in previous decades but wont work in this generation

The style still works Dutchy, it's just now it is another team is doing it.

regards,

REB

[eddie-eagle]

Edge......dissapeared. However, Greedy Smith thinks he should be receiving royalties, from a group he has heard is playing around adelaide called mental as ethelton

[Wedgie]

Isn't it interesting how the "power" of the SANFL has gone from being a power at one level to being a laughing stock at 2 levels.

The AFL must regret so much not taking the cartel's bid into the AFL, they'd get crowds in the high 30ks and probably would have surpassed the Crows in flags by now.

What a shocking decision.

It's only pure luck and the effort of some supporters/clubs in the SANFL in recent years that has got the clubs by, if they'd relied on the AFL and SANFL's recomendation of putting Port into the AFL for their income they would have all been dead in the water, fools.

Still, can't complain as its always a good laugh when the "power" get beaten by teams like Footscary, the cartel would have had more pride in this state than to let that happen, ah well.

[Jimmy]

thats a pretty funny post wedge

any 'aura' port had has gone.

when you break a soul in 2, you lose anything it ever had.

port are nothing now, nothing to be feared, no identity, just pitied!

if i was a magpies fan, and thank god im not, i would be disgusted with what has happened.

how can you go from yelling 'magpies' all day to ******* 'power' in an artificial league. i dont actually feel sorry for em either.

[johntheclaret]

Sorry for who Jimmy. Port Adelaide the club(s) or the PA fans.?

I have some sympathy for the fans of PA who probably didn't much say in the matter or whose heads were turned by the lure of the bright lights, in the same way I have some sympathy for the Torrens and Woodville fans who have had to go from bagging one club one day, to getting into bed with it the next.

Want to say, that I have no sympathy for PAM / Power / Port Adelaide / Magpies or whatever else they want to call themselves. I think they shat on their fans as much as they did on the SANFL. Unqualified personal opinion only.

[Mickyj]

Sorry for who Jimmy. Port Adelaide the club(s) or the PA fans.?

I have some sympathy for the fans of PA who probably didn't much say in the matter or whose heads were turned by the lure of the bright lights, in the same way I have some sympathy for the Torrens and Woodville fans who have had to go from bagging one club one day, to getting into bed with it the next.

Want to say, that I have no sympathy for PAM / Power / Port Adelaide / Magpies or whatever else they want to call themselves. I think they shat on their fans as much as they did on the SANFL. Unqualified personal opinion only.

John the claret an interesting read .It could be said that Torrens and woodville fans getting into bed with one and other is more like the family rejoining itself .As has been pointed out woodville was carved out of torrens area to curb Port.Joining both together has done more to hurt port than two seperate teams ever could.
And with the "two groups" of eagles supporters we get along like a house on fire.Unlike the two Port teams fans last year at alberton they were fighting over who owned the oval!!

Mental edge has been passed to the doggies who will earn it after them no one knows.
Just do not write off my EAGLES if they make it into the finals this year and heaven help the rest(other than the doggies) if the eagles make top3.

[Hondo]

Isn't it interesting how the "power" of the SANFL has gone from being a power at one level to being a laughing stock at 2 levels.

The AFL must regret so much not taking the cartel's bid into the AFL, they'd get crowds in the high 30ks and probably would have surpassed the Crows in flags by now.

What a shocking decision.

PAP won the premiership in 2004 and missed the finals only twice since 1998. Laughing stock?

And the Cartel? How would a second composite side representing clubs who had most of their supporters disappear to the Crows possibly have got any support? You must be joking. No matter what we think of Port, they had to be the second team I have never heard anyone, ever suggest the Cartel is being missed by anyone that's ludicrous. Sorry Wedgie, that's just my opinion.

[Mickyj]

Isn't it interesting how the "power" of the SANFL has gone from being a power at one level to being a laughing stock at 2 levels.

The AFL must regret so much not taking the cartel's bid into the AFL, they'd get crowds in the high 30ks and probably would have surpassed the Crows in flags by now.

What a shocking decision.

PAP won the premiership in 2004 and missed the finals only twice since 1998. Laughing stock?

And the Cartel? How would a second composite side representing clubs who had most of their supporters disappear to the Crows possibly have got any support? You must be joking. No matter what we think of Port, they had to be the second team I have never heard anyone, ever suggest the Cartel is being missed by anyone that's ludicrous. Sorry Wedgie, that's just my opinion.

So why did they still need a Port in the SANFL ? They should've have taken all their history in the AFL and be gone from the SANFL.

[Hondo]

So why did they still need a Port in the SANFL ? They should've have taken all their history in the AFL and be gone from the SANFL.

Dunno ... I was commenting mainly on the Cartel thing. If SANFL supporters didn't embrace the Crows and stuck with their VFL team why would they have suddenly switched to support a second composite SANFL team? Port were the only option for a second AFL licence IMO.

Whether the SANFL is better or worse off for the PAM's presence, I haven't really thought about TBH. Someone else can pick up the ball from here if they want ....

[Jimmy]

Sorry for who Jimmy. Port Adelaide the club(s) or the PA fans.?

I have some sympathy for the fans of PA who probably didn't much say in the matter or whose heads were turned by the lure of the bright lights, in the same way I have some sympathy for the Torrens and Woodville fans who have had to go from bagging one club one day, to getting into bed with it the next.

Want to say, that I have no sympathy for PAM / Power / Port Adelaide / Magpies or whatever else they want to call themselves. I think they shat on their fans as much as they did on the SANFL. Unqualified personal opinion only.

cant really i say i feel sorry for em, hell, if the roles were reversed, would any port person feel sorry for us..i dont ******* think so

[smac]

No, they are still mental.

[johntheclaret]

Sorry for who Jimmy. Port Adelaide the club(s) or the PA fans.?

I have some sympathy for the fans of PA who probably didn't much say in the matter or whose heads were turned by the lure of the bright lights, in the same way I have some sympathy for the Torrens and Woodville fans who have had to go from bagging one club one day, to getting into bed with it the next.

Want to say, that I have no sympathy for PAM / Power / Port Adelaide / Magpies or whatever else they want to call themselves. I think they shat on their fans as much as they did on the SANFL. Unqualified personal opinion only.

John the claret an interesting read .It could be said that Torrens and woodville fans getting into bed with one and other is more like the family rejoining itself .As has been pointed out woodville was carved out of torrens area to curb Port.Joining both together has done more to hurt port than two seperate teams ever could.
And with the "two groups" of eagles supporters we get along like a house on fire.Unlike the two Port teams fans last year at alberton they were fighting over who owned the oval!!

Mental edge has been passed to the doggies who will earn it after them no one knows.
Just do not write off my EAGLES if they make it into the finals this year and heaven help the rest(other than the doggies) if the eagles make top3.

I wasn't having a go at the Eagles or their fans Mickyj. My point was that I doubted fans had much say in what happened at Port or the Eagles for that matter. In the time between the birth of Woodville and it's unification with Torrens, a period of 25 odd years, I guess there would have been a whole era of fans that had only ever known Woodville and West Torrens as two separate teams and their close proximity surely would have added a derby edge to their games. In the same way as there is an era of fans who have only known one WWT team. My reference was to that set of fans..