2009 Recruits to SANFL Clubs

[topsywaldron]

make it bigger Grima might be able to hit it

Grima will only hit the paper bag if it's backing back into the pack with its eyes on the ball, then he's a real tough guy. Just ask Josh Donohue.

[stillnotout]

This from the NAFC official site:

Rooster Player Movement
Members are advised of the following in terms of player movement.

Departures

Daniel Ward

Rory O'Brien

Brett White

Ryan McGahey

We express our appreciation to both the above players and those who have retired or moved on previously.

Recruits

Damon White - previously announced

Cain Ackland - ruckman ex Power, Carlton & St Kilda

Ben Schwartz - utility ex Eagles, North Melbourne List

Djaran Whyman - small forward ex North Melbourne List

Will be interesting to see how Schwartz goes in his new surroundings. I know the Doggies rated him and were trying to get him on board. Cain Ackland is an interesting one. His skills are shocking but is a good tap ruckman so kind of temporarily replacing O'Hara with a like for like player. I saw Ackland tear a few VFL games apart and he can go up forward and kick goals as well, one game booting 8 from full forward.

I'm stating the obvious in saying North really underperformed last year but it seems like they are heading on track to be one of the bigger improvers in 2009. I've seen Whyman on TV in a couple of VFL games in the past and if it's the same guy I'm thinking of, he will be very handy for the Roosters. Very very quick crumbing forward, much like Matt Campbell before going to the Kangaroos, funnily enough, where Whyman's come from. I think he is capable of kicking 40 to 50 goals as a small forward.

Interesting in the "departures" list from North Adelaide's web site there is no Luke Ivens. I thought I read on here or on he Roost that he was off overseas for a year. Has that been confirmed but not announced or was it just one of those pre season "rumours" that we all hear ? With North getting Whyman, I wonder if there will still be any whispers about McConnell coming from Glenelg to the Prospect ? Considering they are both crumbing small forwards, maybe the rumour is regarding another Glenelg forward who missed out on the GF ?

who is the other forward that missed out for the bays????

[stillnotout]

make it bigger Grima might be able to hit it

Grima will only hit the paper bag if it's backing back into the pack with its eyes on the ball, then he's a real tough guy. Just ask Josh Donohue.

he couldnt hit a cows arse with a handful of wheat very ordinary kick

[Aerie]

I think it was better Schwarze moved on to another club. I would to if my club spelt my name wrongly the whole time I was there, or is it North that have got it wrong?

He came to us as a half back and turned into solely a Full Forward. This is not necessarily a bad thing - good proven Full Forwards aren't easy to come across.

His downfall at the Eagles IMO was his inability to play different positions, his poor 2nd efforts (it's either all or nothing when he flies for a mark), his body language when things weren't going well for him and his average disposal when being used around the ground.

His positives are his courage - he'll fly for anything regardless of what's coming at him, his speed and his ability to kick bags of goals. He has turned into a pretty good set shot at goal.

Schwarze was not the type of player the Eagles could win a premiership with IMO. Doesn't have the ticker.

[spell_check]

Not that I'm agreeing with any of stillnotout's comments but does it matter which team he goes for?

Sure. The way I look at it a forum is pretty anonymous and the only clues you get to see how people tick is what clubs they support.

Pretty easy to make jibes about a team/players anonymously especially when you don't reveal what team you support yourself...

Couldn't really gives a rats tossbag (Thanks Blighty) on who he supports, just interested to see where he's coming from.....

If he's an Eagles fan, I don't want to know thanks.

[the joker]

i have heard that former centrals player David Kellett has been talking to Heals about giving the Sanfl another shot, he is a personal trainer so fitness will not be a problem, and we all know he has tallent. he had that wonderful Anzac day game a few years a go, and by the start of next year he will only be 24

[spell_check]

I think it was better Schwarze moved on to another club. I would to if my club spelt my name wrongly the whole time I was there, or is it North that have got it wrong?

He came to us as a half back and turned into solely a Full Forward. This is not necessarily a bad thing - good proven Full Forwards aren't easy to come across.

His downfall at the Eagles IMO was his inability to play different positions, his poor 2nd efforts (it's either all or nothing when he flies for a mark), his body language when things weren't going well for him and his average disposal when being used around the ground.

His positives are his courage - he'll fly for anything regardless of what's coming at him, his speed and his ability to kick bags of goals. He has turned into a pretty good set shot at goal.

Schwarze was not the type of player the Eagles could win a premiership with IMO. Doesn't have the ticker.

There are two other players he was fighting for a place in the side, that had qualities that Schwarze seems to lack - Passador for his 2nd efforts, which was in the past seemed to be criticized for, and Grocke who always puts in for the team.

[whufc]

i have heard that former centrals player David Kellett has been talking to Heals about giving the Sanfl another shot, he is a personal trainer so fitness will not be a problem, and we all know he has tallent. he had that wonderful Anzac day game a few years a go, and by the start of next year he will only be 24

Fitness won't be an issue but commitment was always a major issue at the dogs. Playing in grand final after grand final wasn't enough incentive for Kellet.
Good luck to him though, has plenty of talent but what he does with it is another issue.

[the joker]

i have heard that former centrals player David Kellett has been talking to Heals about giving the Sanfl another shot, he is a personal trainer so fitness will not be a problem, and we all know he has tallent. he had that wonderful Anzac day game a few years a go, and by the start of next year he will only be 24

Fitness won't be an issue but commitment was always a major issue at the dogs. Playing in grand final after grand final wasn't enough incentive for Kellet.
Good luck to him though, has plenty of talent but what he does with it is another issue.

he never had the chance to play in a League GF but was an integeral part of their ressies Premiership a few years ago. it was really hard to get a spot in the doggies midfield back then. i personally think if the roosters get him it will be a massive recruit, Daniel Healy was his High School teacher so they know each other from school and not just from footy

[Big Phil]

Kellet certainly a talent and unlucky to not have played more league footy with the Dogs...

I saw him about 6 months at the Mawson Lakes Hotel having a few quiet ones with former Dogs reserve lad Jake Levi.

David, a young Rick Macgowan clone in the way he plays and looks in a Dogs jumper, looked a bit "podgy" but that was 6 months ago and if he is now a personal trainer, no doubt he would have trimmed up.

May take a while to get back into league footy, I think he hasn't played SANFL for close to 3 years now and I think with a year off in there somewhere, I thought he was only playing Div 5 or 6 with North Pines (but I could be wrong). The guy has age on his side and he definately has the talent, might just take a month or so in the 2's and could be a very handy pick up ? (and continue the unbeleivable number of Centrals players who end up at North !!??)

[Jackal]

Big Phil, I am surprised with your comment that the Doggies rated Schwarze, I cannot recall a good game he had against you. In fact over two seasons he only had about 8 good games for the Eagles.
Trust me he is not the type of player that your club tolerates, the Centrals hard core leadership group would turn on him pretty quickly.

[whufc]

i have heard that former centrals player David Kellett has been talking to Heals about giving the Sanfl another shot, he is a personal trainer so fitness will not be a problem, and we all know he has tallent. he had that wonderful Anzac day game a few years a go, and by the start of next year he will only be 24

Fitness won't be an issue but commitment was always a major issue at the dogs. Playing in grand final after grand final wasn't enough incentive for Kellet.
Good luck to him though, has plenty of talent but what he does with it is another issue.

he never had the chance to play in a League GF but was an integeral part of their ressies Premiership a few years ago. it was really hard to get a spot in the doggies midfield back then. i personally think if the roosters get him it will be a massive recruit, Daniel Healy was his High School teacher so they know each other from school and not just from footy

He played in an ANZAC Day match and starred, he was always a chance to play in a GF and when committed was in the best 21 BUT his time at Central was littered with disciplinary problems and disputes, injuries paid there part but he didn't help himself with the amount of effort he put into training.

[Macca19]

Ackland is an interesting pick up for North. I predict he'll be BOG by a mile in Round 1, take 15 marks and kick 6 goals, then wont take another mark till Round 8.

They're certainly throwing their money around and have picked up a couple of good recruits for their structure.

[G]

So if he takes 16 marks by the end of round 8, he will be 13 ahead of our combined Rukmen's previous seasons total and I didnt think Ruckmen were allowed to kick goals
-No one told O'Hara and Wakelin those secrets.

[bayman]

they are chasing a brother of a player at north who is deciding between box hill & north adelaide if he doesn't get (re)drafted

[rod_rooster]

As for TB's crack re the Salary Cap - we have plenty to spend (wit til you see our overall profit when it is announced) and we have off loaded quite a few high paid players since the start of this season so we would be well inside the acceptable limits!

The size of your profit is irrelevant to the salary cap. You have the same amount to spend as the rest of the competition. The fact that you made a huge profit would surely only make you more likely rather than less likely to breach the cap, yet you raise it in an attempt to hose down suggestions of a salary cap breach.

If you actually read the entirety of drebin's post you will notice he makes the point that North have offloaded some highly paid players which will have freed up plenty of room in the salary cap. Everytime a club signs a couple of players people on here are always jumping on the salary cap issue without looking at all the details. Ward, Motlop and Ladhams alone would free up a lot of room then add to that O'Brien, B. White, Wintle, Coulter, Krieg etc. there would be plenty of room to sign a few new players.

[johntheclaret]

As for TB's crack re the Salary Cap - we have plenty to spend (wit til you see our overall profit when it is announced) and we have off loaded quite a few high paid players since the start of this season so we would be well inside the acceptable limits!

The size of your profit is irrelevant to the salary cap. You have the same amount to spend as the rest of the competition. The fact that you made a huge profit would surely only make you more likely rather than less likely to breach the cap, yet you raise it in an attempt to hose down suggestions of a salary cap breach.

If you actually read the entirety of drebin's post you will notice he makes the point that North have offloaded some highly paid players which will have freed up plenty of room in the salary cap. Everytime a club signs a couple of players people on here are always jumping on the salary cap issue without looking at all the details. Ward, Motlop and Ladhams alone would free up a lot of room then add to that O'Brien, B. White, Wintle, Coulter, Krieg etc. there would be plenty of room to sign a few new players.

All 3 of North's "big" recruits from last year have gone. Clarke, O'Brien, and Ward.

Agree Rod, large chunks of the salary cap will have been freed up for this year. All thanks to Jars btw

[Big Phil]

they are chasing a brother of a player at north who is deciding between box hill & north adelaide if he doesn't get (re)drafted

Ex Hawk Tim Clarke ???

[holden78]

Interesting to see B Campbell down at oval ave the other day

[drebin]

All 3 of North's "big" recruits from last year have gone. Clarke, O'Brien, and Ward.

Agree Rod, large chunks of the salary cap will have been freed up for this year. All thanks to Jars btw

Clarke hasn't gone - he is playing on. If you include Motlop and Ladhams in the "outs" there is a fair bit of $$$ available as those two plus Ward were on big $$$ if you believe the stories floating about.