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Re: Power players leaving SANFL clubs to Magpies

Postby on the rails » Tue Apr 09, 2013 9:44 pm

hereselmo1 wrote:
on the rails wrote:
hereselmo1 wrote:Good on Port for doing what is best for the development of their players.

Playing young in the SANFL reserves when he is fit and in form is a joke.


Well why did Port stand him out of the finals for North last year with a hamstring injury but allow him to risk it further by not playing but taking part in the GF Sprint Relays. I have yet to hear comment or any reasonable explanation as to the double standard Port employed there!


You can't hear it but if you read back through the posts you will see I already answered this.

Have you ever heard of a player cleared to do straight line running at training but not ready for side to side movement or contact yet?


He had a hamstring injury not a knee injury - sprinting if not 100 percent would likely do more damage than playing football. No matter what it still shows double standards. Let's see if by some miracle the Magpies make finals who the Power will leave out of their team?
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Re: Power players leaving SANFL clubs to Magpies

Postby rod_rooster » Tue Apr 09, 2013 9:45 pm

hereselmo1 wrote:
on the rails wrote:
hereselmo1 wrote:Good on Port for doing what is best for the development of their players.

Playing young in the SANFL reserves when he is fit and in form is a joke.


Well why did Port stand him out of the finals for North last year with a hamstring injury but allow him to risk it further by not playing but taking part in the GF Sprint Relays. I have yet to hear comment or any reasonable explanation as to the double standard Port employed there!


You can't hear it but if you read back through the posts you will see I already answered this.

Have you ever heard of a player cleared to do straight line running at training but not ready for side to side movement or contact yet?


Not with a hamstring. If he had any hamstring complaint at all i find it unlikely that he would be allowed to run a sprint where he is most likely to re-injure it. I mean FFS you cannot seriously believe that he had a hamstring injury that would mean he isn't ready for side to side movement but would mean he was fine to compete in a competitive sprint event? Surely no-one is that stupid that they could either believe that or expect other people to buy it? Maybe you are.....
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Re: Power players leaving SANFL clubs to Magpies

Postby hereselmo1 » Tue Apr 09, 2013 9:46 pm

on the rails wrote:
hereselmo1 wrote:
on the rails wrote:
hereselmo1 wrote:Good on Port for doing what is best for the development of their players.

Playing young in the SANFL reserves when he is fit and in form is a joke.


Well why did Port stand him out of the finals for North last year with a hamstring injury but allow him to risk it further by not playing but taking part in the GF Sprint Relays. I have yet to hear comment or any reasonable explanation as to the double standard Port employed there!


You can't hear it but if you read back through the posts you will see I already answered this.

Have you ever heard of a player cleared to do straight line running at training but not ready for side to side movement or contact yet?


He had a hamstring injury not a knee injury - sprinting if not 100 percent would likely do more damage than playing football. No matter what it still shows double standards. Let's see if by some miracle the Magpies make finals who the Power will leave out of their team?


You're getting so hysterical you aren't even typing proper sentences. Take a deep breath.

Apparently he's not in your best 22 anyway.
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Re: Power players leaving SANFL clubs to Magpies

Postby Brodlach » Tue Apr 09, 2013 9:51 pm

Only play 21 on the SANFL FFS
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Re: Power players leaving SANFL clubs to Magpies

Postby RB » Tue Apr 09, 2013 9:58 pm

kickinit wrote:
RB wrote:If Young really were in North's best 21, why would Francou not pick him? Does Francou, as coach of NAFC, want to win football matches, or does he want to spite Port Adelaide? Seems to me that the fact he was not picked is in and of itself clear evidence that he was not in the best 21.


so going by that you are saying north adelaide is at afl level?

Um, no. Read my post.

Selecting a football team is in some ways quite simple. Josh Francou had a pool of players, from which he had to choose 21 to play against Central. He chose his 21 players. Aaron Young was not one of those players. This does not reflect necessarily on whether or not Young (or NAFC for that matter) is at AFL level. It simply means that he was not considered by Francou (or the other selectors) to be in the 21 players who were most likely to defeat Central.

I believe that the league coach (and/or other team selectors) have the right to pick their best 21. Whether a potential player is an AFL players is irrelevant. Indeed the idea that an SANFL coach has no choice but to play an AFL listed player in his league team is IMO absurd.
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Re: Power players leaving SANFL clubs to Magpies

Postby whufc » Tue Apr 09, 2013 9:59 pm

RB wrote:
kickinit wrote:
RB wrote:If Young really were in North's best 21, why would Francou not pick him? Does Francou, as coach of NAFC, want to win football matches, or does he want to spite Port Adelaide? Seems to me that the fact he was not picked is in and of itself clear evidence that he was not in the best 21.


so going by that you are saying north adelaide is at afl level?

Um, no. Read my post.

Selecting a football team is in some ways quite simple. Josh Francou had a pool of players, from which he had to choose 21 to play against Central. He chose his 21 players. Aaron Young was not one of those players. This does not reflect necessarily on whether or not Young (or NAFC for that matter) is at AFL level. It simply means that he was not considered by Francou (or the other selectors) to be in the 21 players who were most likely to defeat Central.

I believe that the league coach (and/or other team selectors) have the right to pick their best 21. Whether a potential player is an AFL players is irrelevant. Indeed the idea that an SANFL coach has no choice but to play an AFL listed player in his league team is IMO absurd.


X2 great post! Sums it up perfectly
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Re: Power players leaving SANFL clubs to Magpies

Postby on the rails » Tue Apr 09, 2013 10:00 pm

hereselmo1 wrote: You're getting so hysterical you aren't even typing proper sentences. Take a deep breath.

Apparently he's not in your best 22 anyway.


He was in our Best 22 come selection for Saturday nights game but the trouble is only 21 play at SANFL level so he was the unlucky one - Oh Dear! So who needs to take a deep breath?
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Re: Power players leaving SANFL clubs to Magpies

Postby rod_rooster » Tue Apr 09, 2013 10:04 pm

whufc wrote:
RB wrote:
kickinit wrote:
RB wrote:If Young really were in North's best 21, why would Francou not pick him? Does Francou, as coach of NAFC, want to win football matches, or does he want to spite Port Adelaide? Seems to me that the fact he was not picked is in and of itself clear evidence that he was not in the best 21.


so going by that you are saying north adelaide is at afl level?

Um, no. Read my post.

Selecting a football team is in some ways quite simple. Josh Francou had a pool of players, from which he had to choose 21 to play against Central. He chose his 21 players. Aaron Young was not one of those players. This does not reflect necessarily on whether or not Young (or NAFC for that matter) is at AFL level. It simply means that he was not considered by Francou (or the other selectors) to be in the 21 players who were most likely to defeat Central.

I believe that the league coach (and/or other team selectors) have the right to pick their best 21. Whether a potential player is an AFL players is irrelevant. Indeed the idea that an SANFL coach has no choice but to play an AFL listed player in his league team is IMO absurd.


X2 great post! Sums it up perfectly


Exactly right but unfortunately there is an agreement that any AFL listed player that has played AFL and is dropped has to play at least 2 (might be 3) weeks in the SANFL league side. This has hurt North in the past with players such as Marlon Motlop and Wade Thompson being selected by the Power straight off the back of a worst on ground effort on North's twos.
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Re: Power players leaving SANFL clubs to Magpies

Postby Mark_Beswick » Tue Apr 09, 2013 10:32 pm

And Newton from West was meant to play midfield for Port and didn't on the weekend.

What happens when the magpies have to drop payers for 2 consecutive games in their reserves - Will the league insist they transfer this player away from the magpies OR do the magpies now HAVE to play this player at the expense of a deserving player from their junior zones - I would hate to be an U18 or PAFC reserves player right now - Your chance of playing league is being eroded by a sneaky AFL club moving players from a system that wasn't broken. I'm sure their will be fall-out over this at the league directors meeting in the months ahead.
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Re: Power players leaving SANFL clubs to Magpies

Postby therisingblues » Tue Apr 09, 2013 10:43 pm

hereselmo1 wrote:
on the rails wrote:
He had a hamstring injury not a knee injury - sprinting if not 100 percent would likely do more damage than playing football. No matter what it still shows double standards. Let's see if by some miracle the Magpies make finals who the Power will leave out of their team?


You're getting so hysterical you aren't even typing proper sentences. Take a deep breath.

Apparently he's not in your best 22 anyway.

Can't see much wrong with his sentences Elmo. Maybe a comma here or there would be debatable additions but the post reads just fine as it is.
P.S. One game in the twos and Port spits the dummy- shows real trust in the SANFL clubs caretaking of their players. How about a bit of gratitude instead of continually throwing hissy fits each time something doesn't go right? I heard when Port and Port were two clubs they were at each other's throats! :lol:
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Re: Power players leaving SANFL clubs to Magpies

Postby topsywaldron » Tue Apr 09, 2013 10:48 pm

All this palaver just makes the fact that the Magpies are rubbish even funnier. I will however be genuinely sad when they go.

One SANFL CEO once told me the best thing they ever did was agree to the OnePort merger as it meant 'when they died, it won't be by our hand'.
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Re: Power players leaving SANFL clubs to Magpies

Postby kickinit » Tue Apr 09, 2013 10:54 pm

RB wrote:
kickinit wrote:
RB wrote:If Young really were in North's best 21, why would Francou not pick him? Does Francou, as coach of NAFC, want to win football matches, or does he want to spite Port Adelaide? Seems to me that the fact he was not picked is in and of itself clear evidence that he was not in the best 21.


so going by that you are saying north adelaide is at afl level?

Um, no. Read my post.

Selecting a football team is in some ways quite simple. Josh Francou had a pool of players, from which he had to choose 21 to play against Central. He chose his 21 players. Aaron Young was not one of those players. This does not reflect necessarily on whether or not Young (or NAFC for that matter) is at AFL level. It simply means that he was not considered by Francou (or the other selectors) to be in the 21 players who were most likely to defeat Central.

I believe that the league coach (and/or other team selectors) have the right to pick their best 21. Whether a potential player is an AFL players is irrelevant. Indeed the idea that an SANFL coach has no choice but to play an AFL listed player in his league team is IMO absurd.


but if he is in the powers best 25 for the week and doesn't get selected that means the 22 that did are btter players, so if he is in norths best 22 ( north said he would of played this week due to a injury so i'm guessing he's the next option) but doesn't get selected that means the 21 players that did are better then him. which means north best 21 must be close to the standard of the powers 22.

The funny thing about this is all you north supporters are having a cry, what for though he's not in your best 21 so it's no lost to you.
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Re: Power players leaving SANFL clubs to Magpies

Postby Rolls Royce » Tue Apr 09, 2013 11:01 pm

LOL North Adelaide. Pissant club.

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Re: Power players leaving SANFL clubs to Magpies

Postby TimmiesChin » Tue Apr 09, 2013 11:04 pm

topsywaldron wrote:One SANFL CEO once told me the best thing they ever did was agree to the OnePort merger as it meant 'when they died, it won't be by our hand'.


That's a disgraceful comment from a club official. But not surprising, its been that way for decades. Jealousy is a bitch I guess.
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Re: Power players leaving SANFL clubs to Magpies

Postby on the rails » Tue Apr 09, 2013 11:10 pm

TimmiesChin wrote:
topsywaldron wrote:One SANFL CEO once told me the best thing they ever did was agree to the OnePort merger as it meant 'when they died, it won't be by our hand'.


That's a disgraceful comment from a club official. But not surprising, its been that way for decades. Jealousy is a bitch I guess.


As opposed to the following post and supposed comment from PAFC CEO that is on TPFP Forum:

"Think you all may find that the reason the Maggies were fairly quiet on the recruit scene is because the club have had this plan to get the majority if not all of the Power listed guys that are not in the top 25/26 across to the Magpies.

In fact, I was told by both KT and Parker on separate occasions over the pre season that they would be actively working on getting our boys across!!!"
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Re: Power players leaving SANFL clubs to Magpies

Postby TimmiesChin » Tue Apr 09, 2013 11:13 pm

on the rails wrote:
TimmiesChin wrote:
topsywaldron wrote:One SANFL CEO once told me the best thing they ever did was agree to the OnePort merger as it meant 'when they died, it won't be by our hand'.


That's a disgraceful comment from a club official. But not surprising, its been that way for decades. Jealousy is a bitch I guess.


As opposed to the follwing post that is on TPFP Forum:

"Think you all may find that the reason the Maggies were fairly quiet on the recruit scene is because the club have had this plan to get the majority if not all of the Power listed guys that are not in the top 25/26 across to the Magpies.

In fact, I was told by both KT and Parker on separate occasions over the pre season that they would be actively working on getting our boys across!!!"


Yes, as opposed to your post, chalk and cheese. I don't see them wishing for clubs to fold.

And regardless, aren't both the crows and port looking at having reserves sides, to best serve their assets.
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Re: Power players leaving SANFL clubs to Magpies

Postby Rolls Royce » Tue Apr 09, 2013 11:16 pm

As long as the SANFL is the second best league in the universe....thats all that matters.

North dont play a bloke they believe isn't good enough, then receive a transfer fee for a guy they aren't even paying the salary for, and they're complaining.

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Re: Power players leaving SANFL clubs to Magpies

Postby Dutchy » Tue Apr 09, 2013 11:24 pm

dedja wrote:Not that I care anymore, but when will Hitchcock move to the Magpies ... is it his turn to move this week?


I almost guarantee he will be the next one, he plays his last of the mandatory 3 games after coming back from injury this week, ironically against the Magpies.

To a degree it is sad that the Magpies are no longer relevant to football in this state, on the field and off, and thats coming from someone that hates them.
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Re: Power players leaving SANFL clubs to Magpies

Postby best for comp » Tue Apr 09, 2013 11:26 pm

if you can be bothered have a look at ports website for a laugh
under their headline news story


Aaron Young was awarded player of the week in the sanfl by port who must set a high benchmark when it goes to a player in a reserve side . Their development officer stated he did not even get out a jog and was doing it easy . Well knock me over with a rooster feather he was an on baller in a side that won by 88. imagine if he gve his all . Not acceptable no wonder he was traded.

pity about the trade as Aaron has always given his all when allowed to play for the Roosters and good luck to him on his afl journey

By the way a quick look at that summary of their sanfl players showed that approx 20 of them played sanfl or clubs last week other than magpies. Maybe the 8 clubs should call their bluff and play them in the ressies this week knowing that they couldn't raise 200k to let them all be cleared next week and if they fluked it they would have to the drop all their non afl players
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Re: Power players leaving SANFL clubs to Magpies

Postby on the rails » Tue Apr 09, 2013 11:27 pm

TimmiesChin wrote: Yes, as opposed to your post, chalk and cheese. I don't see them wishing for clubs to fold.

And regardless, aren't both the crows and port looking at having reserves sides, to best serve their assets.


They couldn't careless about the SANFL based on totally selfish needs which if it is to serve their intrests re Reserves then so be it but they still expect them to play in our Comp! As that appears the only option and that will be in the SANFL Reserves Comp, then that should tick the development criteria preparing your players every week against fringe SANFL players and promising juniors that is providing you can field 21 players each week?

After all all we keep hearing in this AFL debate from both Port and Adelaide is "in one team for development"!
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