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Re: Eagles signings for 2010

Postby Mickyj » Thu Nov 26, 2009 11:55 am

Reds08 wrote:
Micky, You obviously expect Godden to be an instant success! Things don't happen overnight mate. Mick Godden is unproven at the level. A few bigname recruits and an 'AFL' style gameplan won't turn the Eagles into Premiership contenders straight away. Hope he proves me wrong, but i have seen first hand how hard it is.

I am very worried about our recruits to be honest. Parry is a loose cannon! Fantastic player on his day, but not what the place needs when building a new culture. Welsh will have one good year left in him at best. We only got one year out of Kenny, and the record for returning AFL players who have had relatively long careers has not been that good. Day, Guilhaus, Robson etc, are handy depth players but nothing else at this stage. Who is going to play the key defensive spots?

As For Edwards, he was not up to it. Even at Reserves level he was exposed! If Holden and the like think he will be a bigger loss than fairclough then they are kidding themselves. Good decision letting him go.



Agree with u over Edwards .
Agree with u over AFL players coming back
I was worried over Welsh's pace .But can u think of Welsh up forward with say a Redden (or an ex basketballer even)around the goal square.A forwardline we dont just kick to Passador or Salter!!

But being an Eagles fan you have a very short memory.
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Eagles have lacked something the last two years I am starting to see something positive coming.
I'm not brain DEAD as some may think we wont win every game but we will improve on 09 and 08.
Have u seen Powell and Treeby I have ;)
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Re: Eagles signings for 2010

Postby Mickyj » Thu Nov 26, 2009 11:56 am

redandblack wrote:You'll be in trouble with the other Eagles fans on here, Reds, if you make sensible posts like that.

To make matters worse, you haven't bagged your Premiership coach and blamed him for all the (supposed) troubles.

Lift your game, mate ;)


I haven't bagged Winter for a very long time R&B ;)
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Re: Eagles signings for 2010

Postby Reds08 » Thu Nov 26, 2009 12:21 pm

Mickyj wrote:
Reds08 wrote:
Micky, You obviously expect Godden to be an instant success! Things don't happen overnight mate. Mick Godden is unproven at the level. A few bigname recruits and an 'AFL' style gameplan won't turn the Eagles into Premiership contenders straight away. Hope he proves me wrong, but i have seen first hand how hard it is.

I am very worried about our recruits to be honest. Parry is a loose cannon! Fantastic player on his day, but not what the place needs when building a new culture. Welsh will have one good year left in him at best. We only got one year out of Kenny, and the record for returning AFL players who have had relatively long careers has not been that good. Day, Guilhaus, Robson etc, are handy depth players but nothing else at this stage. Who is going to play the key defensive spots?

As For Edwards, he was not up to it. Even at Reserves level he was exposed! If Holden and the like think he will be a bigger loss than fairclough then they are kidding themselves. Good decision letting him go.



Agree with u over Edwards .
Agree with u over AFL players coming back
I was worried over Welsh's pace .But can u think of Welsh up forward with say a Redden (or an ex basketballer even)around the goal square.A forwardline we dont just kick to Passador or Salter!!

But being an Eagles fan you have a very short memory.
Coaches with first year success
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Hamilton got eagles in to the GF Dogs first win
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Hell even Mikan did a good job.

Eagles have lacked something the last two years I am starting to see something positive coming.
I'm not brain DEAD as some may think we wont win every game but we will improve on 09 and 08.
Have u seen Powell and Treeby I have ;)


I understand where you are coming from, and from what i have gathered on here you are very passionate about the club.

I Just think the way the club has gone about it for the coming year has been a little risky. They might feel their Premiership window is open, and have recruited accordingly, but for a young coach to come in with pretty big shoes to fill IMO, it could put the club's progress back a lot further, should we not be successful this year. I think it puts alot more unneeded pressure on Mick early in his career, thats all.

Say what you like about Ron Fuller, but he always put high importance on development, and always put the club first. He wasn't liked by every player, but he was the most successful coach in Woodville, West Torrens or Eagles history. His time was definately up however, and i am hopeful Mick Godden is the right man to take us forward. Just might not be this year.

As for your point regarding first year coaches, i guess i overlooked that, but in all fairness that was basically 10 years ago, and the club's circumstances are a little different. but good point.
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Re: Eagles signings for 2010

Postby Mickyj » Thu Nov 26, 2009 12:33 pm

Reds08 wrote:
Mickyj wrote:
Reds08 wrote:
Micky, You obviously expect Godden to be an instant success! Things don't happen overnight mate. Mick Godden is unproven at the level. A few bigname recruits and an 'AFL' style gameplan won't turn the Eagles into Premiership contenders straight away. Hope he proves me wrong, but i have seen first hand how hard it is.

I am very worried about our recruits to be honest. Parry is a loose cannon! Fantastic player on his day, but not what the place needs when building a new culture. Welsh will have one good year left in him at best. We only got one year out of Kenny, and the record for returning AFL players who have had relatively long careers has not been that good. Day, Guilhaus, Robson etc, are handy depth players but nothing else at this stage. Who is going to play the key defensive spots?

As For Edwards, he was not up to it. Even at Reserves level he was exposed! If Holden and the like think he will be a bigger loss than fairclough then they are kidding themselves. Good decision letting him go.



Agree with u over Edwards .
Agree with u over AFL players coming back
I was worried over Welsh's pace .But can u think of Welsh up forward with say a Redden (or an ex basketballer even)around the goal square.A forwardline we dont just kick to Passador or Salter!!

But being an Eagles fan you have a very short memory.
Coaches with first year success
Winter 93 flag
Hamilton got eagles in to the GF Dogs first win
Fuller got them into the GF first year
Hell even Mikan did a good job.

Eagles have lacked something the last two years I am starting to see something positive coming.
I'm not brain DEAD as some may think we wont win every game but we will improve on 09 and 08.
Have u seen Powell and Treeby I have ;)


I understand where you are coming from, and from what i have gathered on here you are very passionate about the club.

I Just think the way the club has gone about it for the coming year has been a little risky. They might feel their Premiership window is open, and have recruited accordingly, but for a young coach to come in with pretty big shoes to fill IMO, it could put the club's progress back a lot further, should we not be successful this year. I think it puts alot more unneeded pressure on Mick early in his career, thats all.

Say what you like about Ron Fuller, but he always put high importance on development, and always put the club first. He wasn't liked by every player, but he was the most successful coach in Woodville, West Torrens or Eagles history. His time was definately up however, and i am hopeful Mick Godden is the right man to take us forward. Just might not be this year.

As for your point regarding first year coaches, i guess i overlooked that, but in all fairness that was basically 10 years ago, and the club's circumstances are a little different. but good point.


Always nice to chat with a fellow Eagles Fan and lets face it if we all agreed on everything life and footy would be rather boring ;) .

Couple of things from last nights training 12 guys were sick with Gastro.
Allmonds older brother wont be playing in the league pitty he looked pretty good.
And was in a conversation with long term injured Pat Guffreda (spelling sorry).Down side he's about to have his groin operated on and should be back in march.
Was nice to watch SA footy and Glenelg legend Kim Hodgeman on the park.Would have made a nice picture Godden Hodgeman Smith and Biglands .very funny watching Biglands and Godden walking side by side.
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Re: Eagles signings for 2010

Postby holden78 » Thu Nov 26, 2009 4:21 pm

To use a Fullerism , this year the Eagles are being proactive in their recruiting for a change . Ron along with Chairman Stevens and to a lesser degree Kantalaftis were slow and tight when it came to recruits in the last few years ; thats changed much to everyones delight , and its not over yet by some way ! We were up to our ears in with a chance for Boyd , but as everyone knows the Dogs are tough on and off the field . Plus $38,000 is money that will now be possibly used on someone similar who drops through the draft net .
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Re: Eagles signings for 2010

Postby Bunton » Thu Nov 26, 2009 4:27 pm

or being saved to try to lessen the $260k loss the club had last year :shock:
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Re: Eagles signings for 2010

Postby Mickyj » Thu Nov 26, 2009 4:28 pm

Bunton wrote:or being saved to try to lessen the $260k loss the club had last year :shock:

I think u may find the eagles made a very large profit in 09 ;)
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Re: Eagles signings for 2010

Postby Mickyj » Thu Nov 26, 2009 4:29 pm

holden78 wrote:To use a Fullerism , this year the Eagles are being proactive in their recruiting for a change . Ron along with Chairman Stevens and to a lesser degree Kantalaftis were slow and tight when it came to recruits in the last few years ; thats changed much to everyones delight , and its not over yet by some way ! We were up to our ears in with a chance for Boyd , but as everyone knows the Dogs are tough on and off the field . Plus $38,000 is money that will now be possibly used on someone similar who drops through the draft net .


I can't believe I am about to type this but I agree.
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Re: Eagles signings for 2010

Postby Bunton » Thu Nov 26, 2009 4:46 pm

Mickyj wrote:
Bunton wrote:or being saved to try to lessen the $260k loss the club had last year :shock:

I think u may find the eagles made a very large profit in 09 ;)


Did a players or assistants coaches parent tell you that?
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Re: Eagles signings for 2010

Postby Mickyj » Thu Nov 26, 2009 4:51 pm

Bunton wrote:
Mickyj wrote:
Bunton wrote:or being saved to try to lessen the $260k loss the club had last year :shock:

I think u may find the eagles made a very large profit in 09 ;)


Did a players or assistants coaches parent tell you that?


Nope
And i know your trying to take the micky out of micky ;)
Rather than do that why not talk to your players .I work with a south player that was shocked that your club has no ruckman .
But hey bet you dont make fun of south now would u ?
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Re: Eagles signings for 2010

Postby Mr Fuller » Thu Nov 26, 2009 6:58 pm

"I am very worried about our recruits to be honest. Parry is a loose cannon! Fantastic player on his day, but not what the place needs when building a new culture. Welsh will have one good year left in him at best. We only got one year out of Kenny, and the record for returning AFL players who have had relatively long careers has not been that good. Day, Guilhaus, Robson etc, are handy depth players but nothing else at this stage. Who is going to play the key defensive spots?"

I agree with these comments. We've recruited a loose cannon with potential to upset the club's culture, a 1-2 year ex-AFL prospect and a bunch of no names. Hopefully we'll announce some better prospects now that the draft is over
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Re: Eagles signings for 2010

Postby Mickyj » Thu Nov 26, 2009 7:18 pm

Mr Fuller wrote:"I am very worried about our recruits to be honest. Parry is a loose cannon! Fantastic player on his day, but not what the place needs when building a new culture. Welsh will have one good year left in him at best. We only got one year out of Kenny, and the record for returning AFL players who have had relatively long careers has not been that good. Day, Guilhaus, Robson etc, are handy depth players but nothing else at this stage. Who is going to play the key defensive spots?"

I agree with these comments. We've recruited a loose cannon with potential to upset the club's culture, a 1-2 year ex-AFL prospect and a bunch of no names. Hopefully we'll announce some better prospects now that the draft is over


I didnt post this above but the club needed to find a number 1 ruckman as dobber was uncertain about his playing future.So being proactive they went out and found a number 1 ruckman.Instead of waiting until the trial games to find out we have no rucks.

But I will say we need to get a top line midfielder .

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Re: Eagles signings for 2010

Postby Bunton » Thu Nov 26, 2009 7:35 pm

Mr Fuller wrote:"I am very worried about our recruits to be honest. Parry is a loose cannon! Fantastic player on his day, but not what the place needs when building a new culture. Welsh will have one good year left in him at best. We only got one year out of Kenny, and the record for returning AFL players who have had relatively long careers has not been that good. Day, Guilhaus, Robson etc, are handy depth players but nothing else at this stage. Who is going to play the key defensive spots?"

I agree with these comments. We've recruited a loose cannon with potential to upset the club's culture, a 1-2 year ex-AFL prospect and a bunch of no names. Hopefully we'll announce some better prospects now that the draft is over


Ah well - at least you only paid about 55k for Parry and Welsh and 30k odd for the fringies - thank god Mickyj heard first hand from the lady of the road who knows someone that works in the pie stand that the club made a big profit this year
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Re: Eagles signings for 2010

Postby Mickyj » Thu Nov 26, 2009 7:40 pm

Bunton wrote:
Mr Fuller wrote:"I am very worried about our recruits to be honest. Parry is a loose cannon! Fantastic player on his day, but not what the place needs when building a new culture. Welsh will have one good year left in him at best. We only got one year out of Kenny, and the record for returning AFL players who have had relatively long careers has not been that good. Day, Guilhaus, Robson etc, are handy depth players but nothing else at this stage. Who is going to play the key defensive spots?"

I agree with these comments. We've recruited a loose cannon with potential to upset the club's culture, a 1-2 year ex-AFL prospect and a bunch of no names. Hopefully we'll announce some better prospects now that the draft is over


Ah well - at least you only paid about 55k for Parry and Welsh and 30k odd for the fringies - thank god Mickyj heard first hand from the lady of the road who knows someone that works in the pie stand that the club made a big profit this year


funny south person
The figure I heard from South Adelaide re parry was no where 55k mate you better go ask ron .
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Re: Eagles signings for 2010

Postby wedgetail » Thu Nov 26, 2009 8:01 pm

Bunton wrote:
Mr Fuller wrote:"I am very worried about our recruits to be honest. Parry is a loose cannon! Fantastic player on his day, but not what the place needs when building a new culture. Welsh will have one good year left in him at best. We only got one year out of Kenny, and the record for returning AFL players who have had relatively long careers has not been that good. Day, Guilhaus, Robson etc, are handy depth players but nothing else at this stage. Who is going to play the key defensive spots?"

I agree with these comments. We've recruited a loose cannon with potential to upset the club's culture, a 1-2 year ex-AFL prospect and a bunch of no names. Hopefully we'll announce some better prospects now that the draft is over


Ah well - at least you only paid about 55k for Parry and Welsh and 30k odd for the fringies - thank god Mickyj heard first hand from the lady of the road who knows someone that works in the pie stand that the club made a big profit this year


For a relative novice Bunton, you seem to be a lot of words and no substance. Eagles will post a significant turn around from 2008 season.
Very reliable source that WILL be proven correct when balance sheets are announced soon.
Why don't you try and help get your own club's shambolic back yard in order before sledging other clubs and their supporters or are you all hot air there too!
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Re: Eagles signings for 2010

Postby Bunton » Thu Nov 26, 2009 8:55 pm

wedgetail wrote:
Bunton wrote:
Mr Fuller wrote:"I am very worried about our recruits to be honest. Parry is a loose cannon! Fantastic player on his day, but not what the place needs when building a new culture. Welsh will have one good year left in him at best. We only got one year out of Kenny, and the record for returning AFL players who have had relatively long careers has not been that good. Day, Guilhaus, Robson etc, are handy depth players but nothing else at this stage. Who is going to play the key defensive spots?"

I agree with these comments. We've recruited a loose cannon with potential to upset the club's culture, a 1-2 year ex-AFL prospect and a bunch of no names. Hopefully we'll announce some better prospects now that the draft is over


Ah well - at least you only paid about 55k for Parry and Welsh and 30k odd for the fringies - thank god Mickyj heard first hand from the lady of the road who knows someone that works in the pie stand that the club made a big profit this year


For a relative novice Bunton, you seem to be a lot of words and no substance. Eagles will post a significant turn around from 2008 season.
Very reliable source that WILL be proven correct when balance sheets are announced soon.
Why don't you try and help get your own club's shambolic back yard in order before sledging other clubs and their supporters or are you all hot air there too!


Must confess, I have no idea, and no real interest in the eagles finances other than to say thanks for the $31k you gave our club for the "loose cannon" as one of your supporters termed him. I understand that league rules state that it costs $25k to transfer a player coming off an AFL list (ie Welsh from Westies) between SANFL clubs. I can promise you some substance in those numbers.

Must also admit that I can't pretend that my mob's backyard has been overly scenic in the last few years, but with some capable on-ball recruits already secured, hopefully some tall timber to come (must be sh1tloads left in the cap now with the two rock-stars gone), and the attraction of the first coach of any substance to ever commit to an SANFL club south of cement hill; I'll bet you any money you like, our club will climb more ranks on the ladders than your merged, internally split conglomerate will?
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Re: Eagles signings for 2010

Postby Mickyj » Thu Nov 26, 2009 9:15 pm

Bunton wrote:
Must confess, I have no idea, and no real interest in the eagles finances other than to say thanks for the $31k you gave our club for the "loose cannon" as one of your supporters termed him. I understand that league rules state that it costs $25k to transfer a player coming off an AFL list (ie Welsh from Westies) between SANFL clubs. I can promise you some substance in those numbers.

Must also admit that I can't pretend that my mob's backyard has been overly scenic in the last few years, but with some capable on-ball recruits already secured, hopefully some tall timber to come (must be sh1tloads left in the cap now with the two rock-stars gone), and the attraction of the first coach of any substance to ever commit to an SANFL club south of cement hill; I'll bet you any money you like, our club will climb more ranks on the ladders than your merged, internally split conglomerate will?


No interest in the Eagles
Why keep posting in an Eagles topic ?
And do u really think players will flock to noarlunga whatever your smoking must be good.

I think Wedgie said it best in another topic and I'll paraphrase him .
Your offered 30 k to play for the panthers
or 20k to play for the bulldogs
I'd travel up main north rd .
I hope thats ok Wedgie ;)


And my information from a south player says your almost close at 31k but still way to high .

Perhaps you should start a panthers topic keep you interested over the off season.And just one more thing you lower clubs that cant beat us always brings up the old merged club thing .

Looking forward to our first clash with south in 2010 .
I'll be there will u
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Re: Eagles signings for 2010

Postby Bunton » Thu Nov 26, 2009 9:23 pm

Mickyj wrote:
Bunton wrote:
Must confess, I have no idea, and no real interest in the eagles finances other than to say thanks for the $31k you gave our club for the "loose cannon" as one of your supporters termed him. I understand that league rules state that it costs $25k to transfer a player coming off an AFL list (ie Welsh from Westies) between SANFL clubs. I can promise you some substance in those numbers.

Must also admit that I can't pretend that my mob's backyard has been overly scenic in the last few years, but with some capable on-ball recruits already secured, hopefully some tall timber to come (must be sh1tloads left in the cap now with the two rock-stars gone), and the attraction of the first coach of any substance to ever commit to an SANFL club south of cement hill; I'll bet you any money you like, our club will climb more ranks on the ladders than your merged, internally split conglomerate will?


No interest in the Eagles
Why keep posting in an Eagles topic ?
And do u really think players will flock to noarlunga whatever your smoking must be good.

I think Wedgie said it best in another topic and I'll paraphrase him .
Your offered 30 k to play for the panthers
or 20k to play for the bulldogs
I'd travel up main north rd .
I hope thats ok Wedgie ;)


And my information from a south player says your almost close at 31k but still way to high .

Perhaps you should start a panthers topic keep you interested over the off season.And just one more thing you lower clubs that cant beat us always brings up the old merged club thing .

Looking forward to our first clash with south in 2010 .
I'll be there will u


"almost close ... but still way to high" :shock:

I assume this "south player" you talk of working with is former south player Jarrod Wright, seeing you have already noted you are not currently at work due to an operation, but are a regular at training. :o

being the fringee he is, he's obviously also played a big role in your midset at Fuller was a dud?
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Re: Eagles signings for 2010

Postby Aerie » Thu Nov 26, 2009 9:28 pm

Will Parry even miss a game given we have a bye in the first round? Maybe that is why we got him! ;)
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Re: Eagles signings for 2010

Postby Bunton » Thu Nov 26, 2009 9:35 pm

pretty sure I read he's going over easter - that's round 2! ;)

And considering he gets back the Friday before Rd 3, you'd think he'd miss that as well. BUT, I assume with the "new culture" GOD is creating, he'll be rewarded for this trip by being rushed straight back into the one's in Rd 4, so he's primed for the Rd 5 Fuller - Parry Cup at Noarlunga Oval on easter Monday ... assuming he has not done his shoulder by then.
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