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Re: The never ending No AFL in the SANFL whinge thread

Postby Apachebulldog » Sun Aug 16, 2015 8:14 pm

daysofourlives wrote:Can anyone post the link to the story yesterday in the paper where that Parkinson dick said how good the reserves sides are for the comp

Edit found it
http://www.heraldsun.com.au/sport/afl/s ... 7484988551



Come on guys keep up the fight and post your comment on this article i have go for it .
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Re: The never ending No AFL in the SANFL whinge thread

Postby Dogwatcher » Mon Aug 17, 2015 7:46 am

Interesting the AFL is now looking at a women's competition by 2017, but money is a prohibitive factor in setting up an AFL reserves competition.
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Re: The never ending No AFL in the SANFL whinge thread

Postby johntheclaret » Mon Aug 17, 2015 10:02 am

Dogwatcher wrote:Interesting the AFL is now looking at a women's competition by 2017, but money is a prohibitive factor in setting up an AFL reserves competition.

Only if they swap shirts at the end
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Re: The never ending No AFL in the SANFL whinge thread

Postby Booney » Mon Aug 17, 2015 10:07 am

Dogwatcher wrote:Interesting the AFL is now looking at a women's competition by 2017, but money is a prohibitive factor in setting up an AFL reserves competition.


So a 6 or maybe 8 team competition played over maybe 6-8 weeks is equivalent to a full scale AFL reserves national competition?
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Re: The never ending No AFL in the SANFL whinge thread

Postby Wedgie » Mon Aug 17, 2015 10:15 am

Booney wrote:
Dogwatcher wrote:Interesting the AFL is now looking at a women's competition by 2017, but money is a prohibitive factor in setting up an AFL reserves competition.


So a 6 or maybe 8 team competition played over maybe 6-8 weeks is equivalent to a full scale AFL reserves national competition?

Where did anyone say it was?
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Re: The never ending No AFL in the SANFL whinge thread

Postby human_torpedo » Mon Aug 17, 2015 10:21 am

Dogwatcher wrote:Interesting the AFL is now looking at a women's competition by 2017, but money is a prohibitive factor in setting up an AFL reserves competition.


Its all about growth of the game. An AFL Reserves competition probably isn't seen as growing the game, its just the same players playing in a different competition that would be quite costly. A women's competition may lead to a big growth in women's participation and interest in the game, and may have far more growth potential than a Reserves comp..
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Re: The never ending No AFL in the SANFL whinge thread

Postby Booney » Mon Aug 17, 2015 10:27 am

Wedgie wrote:
Booney wrote:
Dogwatcher wrote:Interesting the AFL is now looking at a women's competition by 2017, but money is a prohibitive factor in setting up an AFL reserves competition.


So a 6 or maybe 8 team competition played over maybe 6-8 weeks is equivalent to a full scale AFL reserves national competition?

Where did anyone say it was?


DW notes its "interesting" the AFL is looking at a womens competition, but money is prohibitive in setting up an AFL reserves. No joke? The two would require vastly different funding and can't be compared at all.
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Re: The never ending No AFL in the SANFL whinge thread

Postby bennymacca » Mon Aug 17, 2015 10:32 am

johntheclaret wrote:
Dogwatcher wrote:Interesting the AFL is now looking at a women's competition by 2017, but money is a prohibitive factor in setting up an AFL reserves competition.

Only if they swap shirts at the end


And then you wonder why people view SANFL supporters as outdated...
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Re: The never ending No AFL in the SANFL whinge thread

Postby Wedgie » Mon Aug 17, 2015 10:37 am

Booney wrote:
Wedgie wrote:
Booney wrote:
Dogwatcher wrote:Interesting the AFL is now looking at a women's competition by 2017, but money is a prohibitive factor in setting up an AFL reserves competition.


So a 6 or maybe 8 team competition played over maybe 6-8 weeks is equivalent to a full scale AFL reserves national competition?

Where did anyone say it was?


DW notes its "interesting" the AFL is looking at a womens competition, but money is prohibitive in setting up an AFL reserves. No joke? The two would require vastly different funding and can't be compared at all.

I concur with him that its interesting, hardly means they're equivalent.
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Re: The never ending No AFL in the SANFL whinge thread

Postby bennymacca » Mon Aug 17, 2015 10:51 am

I wonder how much interest they think a women's game will generate?

Given something like netball still seems to struggle for mainstream coverage, I find it hard to think it will generate much interest, but kudos to the afl for trying, hopefully it does gather momentum.

Judging by the comments the other day I would think the only way a national reserves comp would come in is if Foxtel bankrolled it all. If there are women's games to broadcast too they might go for an extra fox footy channel, and therefore need content to fill it.

It is certainly possible bit probably doubtful.
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Re: The never ending No AFL in the SANFL whinge thread

Postby Dogwatcher » Mon Aug 17, 2015 11:15 am

Booney wrote:
Wedgie wrote:
Booney wrote:
Dogwatcher wrote:Interesting the AFL is now looking at a women's competition by 2017, but money is a prohibitive factor in setting up an AFL reserves competition.


So a 6 or maybe 8 team competition played over maybe 6-8 weeks is equivalent to a full scale AFL reserves national competition?

Where did anyone say it was?


DW notes its "interesting" the AFL is looking at a womens competition, but money is prohibitive in setting up an AFL reserves. No joke? The two would require vastly different funding and can't be compared at all.


Throwing money at something which isn't going to generate much interest/commercial attention means it's very interesting and, in my eyes, questionable. Why would you throw money at something like that, flying players around etc, at the cost of player development to your major product?
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Re: The never ending No AFL in the SANFL whinge thread

Postby Booney » Mon Aug 17, 2015 11:47 am

What sort of competition do you think it would be -

How many teams?
How many teams per state?
How many matches?

Clearly your first post alludes to you thinking the money spent on a national womens competition should be put into a national AFL reserves competition, other wise you would be "interested" in it. ie - Don't waste money on a womens competition when you could run an AFL reserves comp and get Port/Adelaide out of the SANFL.
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Re: The never ending No AFL in the SANFL whinge thread

Postby Pseudo » Mon Aug 17, 2015 11:56 am

Kill two birds with one stone: Get a womens league happening and include the smears and clowns reserves in it.
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Re: The never ending No AFL in the SANFL whinge thread

Postby Booney » Mon Aug 17, 2015 11:59 am

Pseudo wrote:Kill two birds with one stone: Get a womens league happening and include the smears and clowns reserves in it.


That's one point of view.
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Re: The never ending No AFL in the SANFL whinge thread

Postby human_torpedo » Mon Aug 17, 2015 12:00 pm

It may not generate interest amongst men and people already interest in the sport.. But when you look at growth, WE aren't the targets for that sort of business ideas.. We are already invested and interested, they need to look for ways to externally grow interest, and they may view women as a massive growth potential.. If having a small 6 team women's competition that gets girls playing the sport at a young age and getting them interested in it, it could flow on to generate more interest in the game.. An AFL Reserves comp wont generate new interest in the game, hence why they would be reluctant to pump money into it
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Re: The never ending No AFL in the SANFL whinge thread

Postby Dogwatcher » Mon Aug 17, 2015 12:00 pm

I would place an AFL reserves or, at the least, an AFL reserves comp featuring SA/Vic sides ahead of a women's league.
Heck, I'd even place having AFL umpires full time ahead of the reserves concept.
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Re: The never ending No AFL in the SANFL whinge thread

Postby saintal » Mon Aug 17, 2015 12:03 pm

What do the AFL have to gain by establishing a nation wide reserves comp? Would it only eventuate from pressure coming from clubs?

Foxtel may or may not be interested in it. Even still you'd imagine the expenses would outweigh any rise in revenue?

I would have thought the current arrangements (certainly in WA, SA and Vic) work rather nicely for the AFL. Cant comment on the NEAFL.

I haven't given it all much thought, just curious how others see it.
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Re: The never ending No AFL in the SANFL whinge thread

Postby Booney » Mon Aug 17, 2015 12:03 pm

Dogwatcher wrote:I would place an AFL reserves or, at the least, an AFL reserves comp featuring SA/Vic sides ahead of a women's league.
Heck, I'd even place having AFL umpires full time ahead of the reserves concept.


I don't doubt that for one moment. Needless to say the AFL doesn't appear to though.

By the look of it the reserves are in the SANFL for some time. I reakon this thread might crack 1000 pages.
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Re: The never ending No AFL in the SANFL whinge thread

Postby Wedgie » Mon Aug 17, 2015 12:03 pm

I watched a bit of the woman's game yesterday on TV, was bloody impressed with the style and skills.
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Re: The never ending No AFL in the SANFL whinge thread

Postby am Bays » Mon Aug 17, 2015 12:03 pm

An AFL womens competition helps the AFL secure/maintain/increase Fed Govt funding for participation programs through getting more people active in Sport.

A national womens competition supports that pathway to make it attractive to girls to take up Footy.

More female participation and interest in Australian Football means the AFL can attract more or demand of more from sponsors which = dollars.

A national reserves cometition is low on the list of the AFLs list of priorities. Why would they want to? They have their clubs' "reserves" teams playing in good local state leagues (except for the Northern States). They aren't going to start spending money flying up to an extra 270 people around he country each week and accommodating them if they can avoid it.

A national reserves competiton is no where near as finacially viable to the AFL as national womens competition is. And while the AFL likes footy, it loves money more!!!

It may be on the wish list of some of the clubs but that wish is secondary to more $$$ from the next AFL TV rights deal for their own corporate and 1st team spending priorities (dev coaches, resources, fact trips O/S, O/S training camps , crytherpay chambers etc).

A national reserves competition is a LOOOOOOOONNNGGG way off despite what some on here might wish for.
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