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Re: the most likely team(s) to improve or go backwards

Postby oldblueeyes » Thu Jan 10, 2008 10:17 pm

stampy wrote:
saintal wrote:improve- south, norwood
backward- glenelg, north, port


obviously you dont read the ins and outs mate


When was the last time ins and outs actually won a game
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Re: the most likely team(s) to improve or go backwards

Postby bayman » Thu Jan 10, 2008 10:24 pm

oldblueeyes wrote:
stampy wrote:
saintal wrote:improve- south, norwood
backward- glenelg, north, port


obviously you dont read the ins and outs mate


When was the last time ins and outs actually won a game



happens more often than you think, although it didn't work for sturt in the elimination final
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Re: the most likely team(s) to improve or go backwards

Postby saintal » Fri Jan 11, 2008 8:24 am

stampy wrote:
saintal wrote:improve- south, norwood
backward- glenelg, north, port


obviously you dont read the ins and outs mate


Yeah I read them. You cant make your predictions based purely on that list though.
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Re: the most likely team(s) to improve or go backwards

Postby eaglehaslanded » Fri Jan 11, 2008 11:09 am

Wedgie wrote:
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Wedgie wrote:I reckon the Eagles will go backwards and it wouldn't surprise me if North do too especially if injury hits the wrong sort of player where we have no depth.
For eg if O'Hara goes down we'll be trusting 1 or 2 ruckmen who haven't played league footy regularly if at all.


You only hope the Eagles go backwards wedgie. I'm predicting we play another prelim at least.


Don't hope that at all mate, I'd be quite happy beating them twice in the finals every year.

Assessment made purely from their ins and outs.


I think you will find in all reality once the season kicks off our ins are a lot better than your expecting. We will lack depth in the ruck without Lindsay as he has dominated the comp for years now but I expect Dabrowski and co to do more than an admirable job. I still think we have the overall depth to get the job done and believe we can have an impact in september.
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Re: the most likely team(s) to improve or go backwards

Postby Whitelinefever » Fri Jan 11, 2008 5:58 pm

I actually feel , that Sturt could be the sleeping giant this season.
They have a lot of good players, a dangerous forward line, and well coached.
If it all clicks , they could really do some damage.
They seem to be quietly going about their business with no fanfair, Rick Magowan has what it takes to gel a formidable unit together.
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Re: the most likely team(s) to improve or go backwards

Postby Mr66 » Fri Jan 11, 2008 7:46 pm

The answer to both sides of this question is Sturt.
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Re: the most likely team(s) to improve or go backwards

Postby stampy » Fri Jan 11, 2008 8:48 pm

saintal wrote:
stampy wrote:
saintal wrote:improve- south, norwood
backward- glenelg, north, port


obviously you dont read the ins and outs mate


Yeah I read them. You cant make your predictions based purely on that list though.


what are you basing your predictions on then? i am curious
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Re: the most likely team(s) to improve or go backwards

Postby LBT » Fri Jan 11, 2008 10:48 pm

stampy wrote:
saintal wrote:
stampy wrote:
saintal wrote:improve- south, norwood
backward- glenelg, north, port


obviously you dont read the ins and outs mate


Yeah I read them. You cant make your predictions based purely on that list though.


what are you basing your predictions on then? i am curious

I think that's what he's hoping for. :roll:
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Re: the most likely team(s) to improve or go backwards

Postby Mr Irate » Sat Jan 12, 2008 11:48 am

oldblueeyes wrote:
stampy wrote:
saintal wrote:improve- south, norwood
backward- glenelg, north, port


obviously you dont read the ins and outs mate


When was the last time ins and outs actually won a game


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INS: C Gowans, J Gowans

Think you'll find the club has won most of their games since then.
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Re: the most likely team(s) to improve or go backwards

Postby SDK » Sat Jan 12, 2008 6:28 pm

Centrals can not improve so they wont.
North I think the window of opportunity has gone and retirements suggest
they will slide.
Eagles look to have lost much more than they have gained so they too will slide Lindsay is irreplaceable.
Glenelg I think will be somewhere near the same if not better
Sturt played above themselves all year and will slide out of the finals
Port on paper are in for a bad year and I predict will just finish just off the bottom.
Norwood are the big improvers they will threaten the flag this year with the recruits they have gained and minimal losses.
West will certainly improve and will make the finals.
South sorry boys you get the spoon.

Prediction at end of minor round....

Centrals
Glenelg
Norwood
North
West
Eagles
Sturt
Port
South
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Re: the most likely team(s) to improve or go backwards

Postby whufc » Sun Jan 13, 2008 1:23 pm

SDK wrote:Centrals can not improve so they wont.
North I think the window of opportunity has gone and retirements suggest
they will slide.
Eagles look to have lost much more than they have gained so they too will slide Lindsay is irreplaceable.
Glenelg I think will be somewhere near the same if not better
Sturt played above themselves all year and will slide out of the finals
Port on paper are in for a bad year and I predict will just finish just off the bottom.
Norwood are the big improvers they will threaten the flag this year with the recruits they have gained and minimal losses.
West will certainly improve and will make the finals.
South sorry boys you get the spoon.

Prediction at end of minor round....

Centrals
Glenelg
Norwood
North
West
Eagles
Sturt
Port
South


What recruits have Norwood really picked up which are going to make an immediate impact.
Doyle- injury prone all his career will just be trying to play more than ten games for the season.
Davis- hasn't proved anything at senior level couldn't break into the swans side and hasn't even played league SANFL yet.

I would expect Gieschen and Trotter to have an impact this year but losing McGuiness will probably be the biggest loss any SANFL team has this off season, he kept them in nearly every game he played with out him i truly believe they would have finished bottom 2.

I think you will find that the two other Sydney boys Phillips and Rowe will take a year or two to have an impact at league level. I know the Central managment have taken a huge interest in recruiting Sydney based players and have found that they genreally take a couple of years to fulfill ambition. the belief is something along the line of that the Sydney league isn't very strong at all probably about div1 ammos apart from the Sydney AFL reserves team. Therefore they may play the one or two brilliant games but struggle to develope into consistent league footballers. At Central take a look at Hopwood, Scoullar, Hayes and even Goodrem last season.

Losing Bailey is a huge loss as well, he may not be the most highly skilled player in the team but he was one of very very very few in the Norwood side who could win the ball 30 times a game.
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Re: the most likely team(s) to improve or go backwards

Postby bulldogproud » Sun Jan 13, 2008 3:04 pm

I hate to say it but I believe we will slide a bit this year. James and Chris are getting older (I know, obvious comment but a fact) and we did miss the boat in recruiting this year - yes, Wedgie, you were right! I see a bit of a weakness in ruck and also in overall depth. How much we will fall I am not certain of.
The big improvers I expect to be West. Some very strong recruiting and a good appointment of coach. I also think that both Sturt and Glenelg will continue on their upward climb.
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Re: the most likely team(s) to improve or go backwards

Postby Pseudo » Sun Jan 13, 2008 4:41 pm

whufc wrote:[...]Losing Bailey is a huge loss as well, he may not be the most highly skilled player in the team but he was one of very very very few in the Norwood side who could win the ball 30 times a game.


With this I agree. He would have been by far the player which gave the Bays most grief, IMO.
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Re: the most likely team(s) to improve or go backwards

Postby topsywaldron » Sun Jan 13, 2008 5:12 pm

whufc wrote:What recruits have Norwood really picked up which are going to make an immediate impact?


We've picked up three who I'd expect to make a big difference immediately, Doyle, Phillips and Trotter. That's based on the simple fact that they've been considered good enough to play AFL within the last two years. Apart from that there's another five or six players new to Norwood who you could reasonably hope that we'd get quality games out of half of them. Most importantly we've recruited to fix deficiencies, in the on ball department. We were killed in the rotations last year and the adition of four or five pacey on ballers, with a decent ruckman to deliver it to them, can only help.

whufc wrote:Losing Bailey is a huge loss as well, he may not be the most highly skilled player in the team but he was one of very very very few in the Norwood side who could win the ball 30 times a game.


He might have got it thirty times but his opponent usually got it thirty five times and they'd generally use it better as well.
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Re: the most likely team(s) to improve or go backwards

Postby whufc » Sun Jan 13, 2008 6:17 pm

topsywaldron wrote:
whufc wrote:What recruits have Norwood really picked up which are going to make an immediate impact?


We've picked up three who I'd expect to make a big difference immediately, Doyle, Phillips and Trotter. That's based on the simple fact that they've been considered good enough to play AFL within the last two years. Apart from that there's another five or six players new to Norwood who you could reasonably hope that we'd get quality games out of half of them. Most importantly we've recruited to fix deficiencies, in the on ball department. We were killed in the rotations last year and the adition of four or five pacey on ballers, with a decent ruckman to deliver it to them, can only help.

whufc wrote:Losing Bailey is a huge loss as well, he may not be the most highly skilled player in the team but he was one of very very very few in the Norwood side who could win the ball 30 times a game.


He might have got it thirty times but his opponent usually got it thirty five times and they'd generally use it better as well.


Being on an AFL list hasn't automatically meant the player would succedd at SANFL level just ask South Adelaide quite the opposite actually.
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Re: the most likely team(s) to improve or go backwards

Postby Wedgie » Sun Jan 13, 2008 6:19 pm

whufc wrote:Being on an AFL list hasn't automatically meant the player would succedd at SANFL level just ask South Adelaide quite the opposite actually.

Agreed, crikey Craig Burrows was a State of Origin player and couldn't get a kick for North unless we were playing Norwood.
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Re: the most likely team(s) to improve or go backwards

Postby nickname » Sun Jan 13, 2008 7:08 pm

I think Phillips will have more of an impact than Gieschen or Trotter. Gieschen was only just a VFL player and Trotter's not done anything at VFL level to suggest he'll be influential. Handy probably. I think Norwood's outs outweigh their ins but that doesn't necessarily translate into a side slipping down the ladder.
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Re: the most likely team(s) to improve or go backwards

Postby topsywaldron » Sun Jan 13, 2008 7:27 pm

whufc wrote:Being on an AFL list hasn't automatically meant the player would succedd at SANFL level ... quite the opposite actually.


How many of the 21 who took the the field in last years GF for CDFC have spent time on an AFL list?
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Re: the most likely team(s) to improve or go backwards

Postby topsywaldron » Sun Jan 13, 2008 7:29 pm

nickname wrote: I think Norwood's outs outweigh their ins


And I think most people who watch Norwood week and week out would know that McGuiness is the only significant loss.
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Re: the most likely team(s) to improve or go backwards

Postby fester69 » Sun Jan 13, 2008 8:08 pm

Totally agree, McGuiness is the only real loss. Our ins are far more promising than the players on the out list.
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