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[JK]

You guys didn't want the Magpies to exist anyway did you?

Back to Booney's point, I can't say I'm personally familiar with any Magpies fans that hate the Power .. I'm sure they exist, but my Magpie loving mates are all the "One Port" supporters. Other than those that were already entrenched in supporting an AFL club, I can't see why Magpie supporters would have dislike/hatred toward the Power??

[Dutchy]

That was the point at which the Magpies were effectively neutered. No home, no money, divided loyalties, all thanks to an unfounded paranoia that ultimately handed a decade of dominance the the boys from the North.

Which Port accepted and agreed to.

[RustyCage]

That was the point at which the Magpies were effectively neutered. No home, no money, divided loyalties, all thanks to an unfounded paranoia that ultimately handed a decade of dominance the the boys from the North.

Which Port accepted and agreed to.

The alternative was?

[MightyEagles]

You guys didn't want the Magpies to exist anyway did you?

Back to Booney's point, I can't say I'm personally familiar with any Magpies fans that hate the Power .. I'm sure they exist, but my Magpie loving mates are all the "One Port" supporters. Other than those that were already entrenched in supporting an AFL club, I can't see why Magpie supporters would have dislike/hatred toward the Power??

I've heard that some of the Port Magpie CS, why, because according to some the Power stole the History of the Magpies.

[JK]

That was the point at which the Magpies were effectively neutered. No home, no money, divided loyalties, all thanks to an unfounded paranoia that ultimately handed a decade of dominance the the boys from the North.

Which Port accepted and agreed to.

The alternative was?

Don't play in the AFL I would have thought?

[RustyCage]

That was the point at which the Magpies were effectively neutered. No home, no money, divided loyalties, all thanks to an unfounded paranoia that ultimately handed a decade of dominance the the boys from the North.

Which Port accepted and agreed to.

The alternative was?

Don't play in the AFL I would have thought?

No, the alternative for the Magpies I meant

[Jim05]

Port should have just taken everything to the AFL, Magpies should of ceased to exist. Dont know why they wanted a team in the SANFL, if you decide to change comps you take everything surely

[JK]

Port should have just taken everything to the AFL, Magpies should of ceased to exist. Dont know why they wanted a team in the SANFL, if you decide to change comps you take everything surely

That was their plan IIRC but the Sanfl decreed the Magpies must remain?

[StrayDog]

Port should have just taken everything to the AFL, Magpies should of ceased to exist. Dont know why they wanted a team in the SANFL, if you decide to change comps you take everything surely

That was their plan IIRC but the Sanfl decreed the Magpies must remain?

With apologies to Macca19 and other posters for referencing old posts without notice, this from 18 months back:-

viewtopic.php?f=1&t=30425&p=1142483#p1142483

[on the rails]

Well you can never convince Port supporters that it wasn't the clubs that wanted the Magpies to remain - it was the SANFL Commission. All the 8 clubs were strongly opposed to the Magpies remaining however the way the League hierachy was structured back then the Commission could make the final decision and they over rode the wishes of the clubs out of panic instead of having confidence in the SANFL operating as an 8 team comp without the "crowds" Port would bring in.

That has proven to be a poor decsion on all counts especially the crowds - whilst Port draw good crowds when they are up and running they have been very average in terms of crowds for quite a few years as their club is no different than the rest of our clubs, success on field brings the crowds regardless of how big your supporter base is.

Things have altered slightly since the Port vote re the Commission. They can still in certain cases overide the wishes of the League Directors but they would do so at their own peril as the Directors have the Power to vote the Commissioners on and off including removal on a vote "no confidence" at anytime during their term.

[RustyCage]

Port should have just taken everything to the AFL, Magpies should of ceased to exist. Dont know why they wanted a team in the SANFL, if you decide to change comps you take everything surely

That was the intention. It was the SANFL who wanted a Magpies to still exist in the SANFL, and at the time it seemed like the best thing for everyone involved.

[Booney]

Port should have just taken everything to the AFL, Magpies should of ceased to exist. Dont know why they wanted a team in the SANFL, if you decide to change comps you take everything surely

That was the intention. It was the SANFL who wanted a Magpies to still exist in the SANFL, and at the time it seemed like the best thing for everyone involved.

At the time there was no doubt it was the best outcome ( keeping the Magpies), the SANFL also wanted the two bodies to have nothing to do with each other (at the time). History shows that one of the decisions was wrong. IMO, not letting the two work together was the error, but my view is clouded by my vested interest in seeing both succeed on and off field.

[Psyber]

I always thought the right decision would have been to let Port go, expunge all traces of them in the SANFL, and ignore the expanding VFL.
Then the territory could have been spread among the other western teams, perhaps moving one of them to Alberton to fill the vacuum. (Westport anyone?)

Then SANFL then could have hung out for a genuine national competition not controlled by the renamed VFL.
(And the "AFL" would be paying fully to prop up Port Adelaide - or have folded them up by now.)

Once we had weakened and created a team in this false "AFL", the second mistake was giving Port the second licence as a consolation prize.
Look where it has gotten us...

[Booney]

20/20 hindsight isn't something many of us posses.

[beenreal]

20/20 hindsight isn't something many of us possess.

I strongly disagree Booney. With the hindsight so clearly and constantly demonstrated by so many posters on this forum, I'm surprised they have time to bother, as they should be way too busy spending all their collective Lottery wins.

[CUTTERMAN]

Ok, question to both Booney and Beenreal, you're both passionate Port supporters and at a guess, have been for many decades. Of the four scenarios that I initially posted, which would you personally prefer and which do you think is best for the future of the PAFC?

[Psyber]

20/20 hindsight isn't something many of us possess.

I strongly disagree Booney. With the hindsight so clearly and constantly demonstrated by so many posters on this forum, I'm surprised they have time to bother, as they should be way too busy spending all their collective Lottery wins.

What I stated above were the positions I took at the time of the events.
No hindsight involved...

[whufc]

I have tried watching some of the replays on the ABC of the VFL.

Just cant do it it's like me going to watch South vs Sturts reserves, i have no interest!

[topsywaldron]

here's a passionate Magpies supporter's view of the merger.

Macca, the merger was the worst possible result for the Magpies. Trust me on that. The Power is a lame duck, and any financial affiliation with it would have sounded a definitive death-knell in the very near future.

As it stands we remain independent, and answerable to no-one, and will live or die based on the actions of our board, members and the latent supporter base over the next 6-10 months.

Had the merger been approved we would have been on our knees, and there are only two things you can do on you knees and neither of them are particulalrly gratifying.

Better to live on your feet than die on your knees.

Sorry to Pipers for dragging this out but the Stalinist everything is great attitude of posters like Beenreal sticks in my craw.

[RustyCage]

What makes pipers view more correct than anyone else's? Apart from you finding one that supports your view. FWIW I completely disagree with what he posted.