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Re: Port Adelaide Reserves

Postby TimmiesChin » Fri Aug 16, 2013 10:23 pm

Aerie wrote:
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LEH wrote:Olson stated on 'Radio AFL' last Wednesday Night, that was the figure.

Even if it is 1/2 of that, pay your debt back first before 'forking out' more $$$ to play in the VFL!!!


Olsen doesn't know what hes talking about. Port may have been given $12m as a grand total but the majority has come from the AFL, not the SANFL.


That was a loan to the SANFL from the AFL that the SANFL have to pay back. So effectively, the SANFL is left with your debt.


Correct. But note it was a grant to port.... not a loan.

If the sanfl didn't own out license the AFL would have made the grant to port under it's equalisation policy, but weren't prepared to do this with sanfl as license holder. (Clubs such as bulldogs and kangaroos have Been getting 3-4 million more than port in grants for years.)
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Re: Port Adelaide Reserves

Postby TimmiesChin » Fri Aug 16, 2013 10:25 pm

By the way I suspect the vfl thing won't happen, so really just speaking on t he hypothetical scenario.

Something will give somewhere.
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Re: Port Adelaide Reserves

Postby whufc » Fri Aug 16, 2013 10:26 pm

TimmiesChin wrote:By the way I suspect the vfl thing won't happen, so really just speaking on t he hypothetical scenario.

Something will give somewhere.


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Re: Port Adelaide Reserves

Postby CedeNullis » Fri Aug 16, 2013 10:31 pm

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Magpiespower wrote:Some of the more militant fans on other forums are calling for the Magpies to breakaway from One Club and join the ammos!

Why not just break away from One Club and stay in the SANFL?

Port Adelaide's ambit claim of wanting 'everything' is part of their strategic plan. They cannot pull the trigger on the Port Magpies, so much easier for the SANFL to do it for them. They are an AFL club. The Crows gaining entry into the SANFL has now put more pressure on Port to cut the Magpies loose. Port will eventually say in one form or another, 'there was nothing we could do about it'...the Magpies are gone...Hello Port Adelaide Reserves in the SANFL.
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Re: Port Adelaide Reserves

Postby Aerie » Fri Aug 16, 2013 10:36 pm

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LEH wrote:Olson stated on 'Radio AFL' last Wednesday Night, that was the figure.

Even if it is 1/2 of that, pay your debt back first before 'forking out' more $$$ to play in the VFL!!!


Olsen doesn't know what hes talking about. Port may have been given $12m as a grand total but the majority has come from the AFL, not the SANFL.


That was a loan to the SANFL from the AFL that the SANFL have to pay back. So effectively, the SANFL is left with your debt.


$3m. Not $12.5m


http://www.sanfl.com.au/files/_system/F ... ANFLAR.pdf

"The SANFL has now committed to provide the Port Adelaide Football Club with a total of $14.75 million in grants since 2007 which has had a significant negative impact on both earnings and the net asset position of the SANFL."
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Re: Port Adelaide Reserves

Postby on the rails » Fri Aug 16, 2013 10:39 pm

F**k the PAFC - why can't they play by and or accept the same rules as everyone else? This whole AFL Reserves issue is historically their fault as they "back doored" the SANFL and tried to cut a deal with the then VFL with no concern for the rest of the SANFL which forced a hastily organised AFC.

Surely even the diehard Magpie fans have to know the Magpies are dead! If they want to go play in the VFL then good luck if they think it will cost them between $400K and $700K per year! Who is going to fund the VFL teams playing away in SA every second week or are Port going to play away every week?

Let me know who is in charge of that "fiasco" of a plan so I can send them the contact details of my works Charter Air Arm - I am sure we could do them a good deal on a 100 seat jet for weekly travel! :shock:
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Re: Port Adelaide Reserves

Postby eddie eagle » Tue Aug 20, 2013 12:23 am

on the rails wrote:F**k the PAFC - why can't they play by and or accept the same rules as everyone else? This whole AFL Reserves issue is historically their fault as they "back doored" the SANFL and tried to cut a deal with the then VFL with no concern for the rest of the SANFL which forced a hastily organised AFC.

Surely even the diehard Magpie fans have to know the Magpies are dead! If they want to go play in the VFL then good luck if they think it will cost them between $400K and $700K per year! Who is going to fund the VFL teams playing away in SA every second week or are Port going to play away every week?

Let me know who is in charge of that "fiasco" of a plan so I can send them the contact details of my works Charter Air Arm - I am sure we could do them a good deal on a 100 seat jet for weekly travel! :shock:


I can just see the marketing for the Jet - "Con Air".

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Re: Port Adelaide Reserves

Postby Booney » Tue Aug 20, 2013 9:32 am

Pseudo wrote:
Macca19 wrote:I am so completely over this its not funny. Wake me up in March next year.

Aren't you going to come and present me with a spoon in round 23?


Do you prefer a standard kitchen model or the 70's style giant wall hanging version?
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Re: Port Adelaide Reserves

Postby Jim05 » Tue Aug 20, 2013 10:03 am

Booney wrote:
Pseudo wrote:
Macca19 wrote:I am so completely over this its not funny. Wake me up in March next year.

Aren't you going to come and present me with a spoon in round 23?


Do you prefer a standard kitchen model or the 70's style giant wall hanging version?

Just keep hold of it, your ressies may be requiring one ;)
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Re: Port Adelaide Reserves

Postby areaman » Tue Aug 20, 2013 10:20 am

Need to talk with the bank shortly about funds to buy a house.

Wonder if I can ask for a grant rather than a loan?

Might give Chris Davies a call if the bank make me take it as a loan.
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Re: Port Adelaide Reserves

Postby Booney » Tue Aug 20, 2013 10:37 am

Jim05 wrote:
Booney wrote:
Pseudo wrote:
Macca19 wrote:I am so completely over this its not funny. Wake me up in March next year.

Aren't you going to come and present me with a spoon in round 23?


Do you prefer a standard kitchen model or the 70's style giant wall hanging version?

Just keep hold of it, your ressies may be requiring one ;)

Reserves are just for development mate, not there to actually win anything. ;)
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Re: Port Adelaide Reserves

Postby Jim05 » Tue Aug 20, 2013 11:00 am

Booney wrote:Reserves are just for development mate, not there to actually win anything. ;)

Come on Boon, Trigg has denied this
Why wouldnt I take his word as gospel :lol:
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Re: Port Adelaide Reserves

Postby beenreal » Tue Aug 20, 2013 12:52 pm

on the rails wrote:F**k the PAFC - why can't they play by and or accept the same rules as everyone else? This whole AFL Reserves issue is historically their fault as they "back doored" the SANFL and tried to cut a deal with the then VFL with no concern for the rest of the SANFL which forced a hastily organised AFC.

Surely even the diehard Magpie fans have to know the Magpies are dead! If they want to go play in the VFL then good luck if they think it will cost them between $400K and $700K per year! Who is going to fund the VFL teams playing away in SA every second week or are Port going to play away every week?

Let me know who is in charge of that "fiasco" of a plan so I can send them the contact details of my works Charter Air Arm - I am sure we could do them a good deal on a 100 seat jet for weekly travel! :shock:


Awwww, look at you getting your feathers all ruffled about 1990, all over again OTR.

Yep, if only those mean old Port boys hadn't rattled the cage, that nasty AFL thing would never have come to South Australia. Life would have remained all Happy Days and Safari Suits.

Your team didn't lose again on the weekend did it?
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Re: Port Adelaide Reserves

Postby on the rails » Tue Aug 20, 2013 2:31 pm

beenreal wrote: Yep, if only those mean old Port boys hadn't rattled the cage, that nasty AFL thing would never have come to South Australia. Life would have remained all Happy Days and Safari Suits.

Your team didn't lose again on the weekend did it?


Is that your best comeback? lol :D

Will you be around for another year or will Thomas and Koch finally bite the bullet and kill the Magpies off once and for all and meet the SANFL deadline for 2014?

Re the reference to the past - wasn't that when your club dominated the comp? lol :roll: Good to see you looking back and getting into practice because that will be all you will have soon as far as the Magpies go!!! Oh how sad....NOT!
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Re: Port Adelaide Reserves

Postby therisingblues » Tue Aug 20, 2013 5:00 pm

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Power From Port wrote:Went to a Dinner in the Port last tuesday and there were some Magpie/Power officials as guest speakers.

Apparently for 2015 they have two backup options if they dont get their prefered option. One was become the powers reserves and potentialy align with a ammos club i.e Port Districts and have an independant academy

Plan B Was to play in the VFL

Thoughts


An alignment with an Amateur Club in the Port area won't cut it. The SANFL zones will get re-aligned and Port's zone would be dead for whichever SANFL club had to take it as all the kids in the area would play for Port District. That's not going to be good for the SANFL.

Good luck affording the VFL if the Crows can't.

I think in the end the biggest losers out of all this Reserves debate will be the Port Magpies supporters. The only ones they can blame are the Power.

You've brought this up before about what'd happen with Port's zone if another club took it over, and I think you're bang on the money, ie. It'd be unfair for the Eagles to have to surrender some of its true heartland in exchange for a larger slice of Port's zone which would be filled with people who still love Port and don't give a damn about the Eagles. In fact the end result would potentially mean less available willing young players for the Eagles.
Perhaps a way around this, is to give a slice of Port's zone to each of the 8 clubs, regardless of how far away they are.
P.S the Power's original proposal was much netter than the Crows. It's a shame that it's come to this.
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Re: Port Adelaide Reserves

Postby Pseudo » Tue Aug 20, 2013 8:06 pm

Booney wrote:
Pseudo wrote:
Macca19 wrote:I am so completely over this its not funny. Wake me up in March next year.

Aren't you going to come and present me with a spoon in round 23?


Do you prefer a standard kitchen model or the 70's style giant wall hanging version?

Better be the '70s style one since apparently as a SANFL fan I'm living in the past.
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Re: Port Adelaide Reserves

Postby Pseudo » Tue Aug 20, 2013 8:08 pm

therisingblues wrote:You've brought this up before about what'd happen with Port's zone if another club took it over, and I think you're bang on the money, ie. It'd be unfair for the Eagles to have to surrender some of its true heartland in exchange for a larger slice of Port's zone which would be filled with people who still love Port and don't give a damn about the Eagles. In fact the end result would potentially mean less available willing young players for the Eagles.
Perhaps a way around this, is to give a slice of Port's zone to each of the 8 clubs, regardless of how far away they are.

Simple fix: merge PAM with the Eagles. :twisted:
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Re: Port Adelaide Reserves

Postby cracka » Tue Aug 20, 2013 8:13 pm

Pseudo wrote:
therisingblues wrote:You've brought this up before about what'd happen with Port's zone if another club took it over, and I think you're bang on the money, ie. It'd be unfair for the Eagles to have to surrender some of its true heartland in exchange for a larger slice of Port's zone which would be filled with people who still love Port and don't give a damn about the Eagles. In fact the end result would potentially mean less available willing young players for the Eagles.
Perhaps a way around this, is to give a slice of Port's zone to each of the 8 clubs, regardless of how far away they are.

Simple fix: merge PAM with the Eagles. :twisted:

Would that make them the WWTPA Magpies then.
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Re: Port Adelaide Reserves

Postby Dogwatcher » Wed Aug 21, 2013 10:46 am

That'd have them up there with Ganmain-Grong Grong Matong for lengthy names.
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Re: Port Adelaide Reserves

Postby Dogwatcher » Wed Aug 21, 2013 10:50 am

Looks like the Magpies will have Brett Ebert next season.
Will Johncock return or play for the Crows?
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