Some friendly advice for Jars

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Postby sydney-dog » Sun Oct 01, 2006 11:21 pm

im not convinced that Jars involvement in the media had an impact on north's finals performance

i would like to think Jars need to re-think his footy game plan, finals footy is not about free flowing attacking footy, on one hand I admire him for wanting to promote the sanfl and entertaining footy but he has a higher obligation to his members and his club and that is to develop a stronger finals style of footy

for one instance I am not saying don't attack, but he needs to develop a stronger defensive action at the club, he needs to attract recruits who are strong players over the ball and work etremely hard both ways, if he can get the balance right North are not that far away
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Postby Wedgie » Mon Oct 02, 2006 12:15 am

sydney-dog wrote:im not convinced that Jars involvement in the media had an impact on north's finals performance

i would like to think Jars need to re-think his footy game plan, finals footy is not about free flowing attacking footy, on one hand I admire him for wanting to promote the sanfl and entertaining footy but he has a higher obligation to his members and his club and that is to develop a stronger finals style of footy

for one instance I am not saying don't attack, but he needs to develop a stronger defensive action at the club, he needs to attract recruits who are strong players over the ball and work etremely hard both ways, if he can get the balance right North are not that far away


As I said before, Im not a huge Jars fan, but his involvement in the media has had nothing to do with the wash up of things.
He may be a clown, but he's a professional clown and he's a huge plus for the SANFL.
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Postby Blacky » Mon Oct 02, 2006 12:29 am

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Postby Magpies96 » Mon Oct 02, 2006 12:47 am

Wedgie wrote:He may be a clown, but he's a professional clown and he's a huge plus for the SANFL.


I agree with that.
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Postby locky801 » Mon Oct 02, 2006 9:56 am

I have been a Jars knocker to a certain extent, however I was lucky enough to hear his half time address to the team yesterday, this guy is all passion for the NAFC and it's players. Over the years I have been fortunate enough to hear a number of coaches from the NAFC address their players from the likes of Mike Patterson all the way through to Mick Nunan, none, not one even got close to the passionate address Jars gave to the players yesterday. a number of people that had the pleasure of hearing with me were truly inspired. well done Jars
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Postby goraw » Mon Oct 02, 2006 10:12 am

sydney-dog wrote:im not convinced that Jars involvement in the media had an impact on north's finals performance

i would like to think Jars need to re-think his footy game plan, finals footy is not about free flowing attacking footy, on one hand I admire him for wanting to promote the sanfl and entertaining footy but he has a higher obligation to his members and his club and that is to develop a stronger finals style of footy

for one instance I am not saying don't attack, but he needs to develop a stronger defensive action at the club, he needs to attract recruits who are strong players over the ball and work etremely hard both ways, if he can get the balance right North are not that far away


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Postby Rushby Hinds » Mon Oct 02, 2006 10:50 am

locky801 wrote:I have been a Jars knocker to a certain extent, however I was lucky enough to hear his half time address to the team yesterday, this guy is all passion for the NAFC and it's players. Over the years I have been fortunate enough to hear a number of coaches from the NAFC address their players from the likes of Mike Patterson all the way through to Mick Nunan, none, not one even got close to the passionate address Jars gave to the players yesterday. a number of people that had the pleasure of hearing with me were truly inspired. well done Jars



Interesting post.

Something that I personally can not make up my mind is "passion" overrated in coaching?


Yes, there's definitely a time and a place, but in this "modern era" methinks passion is not the number one priority of a coach? Roos, Worsfold, Laird and Fuller don't come across as the fire and brimstone types.
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Postby locky801 » Mon Oct 02, 2006 10:52 am

perhaps passion was not the right word to use but more so inspiring Borat, guess really you had to be there to get my point
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Postby Mickyj » Mon Oct 02, 2006 1:26 pm

Yes, there's definitely a time and a place, but in this "modern era" methinks passion is not the number one priority of a coach? Roos, Worsfold, Laird and Fuller don't come across as the fire and brimstone types.[/quote]

Well said Borat!!
Was said to me yesterday as my son and I entered the oval we will win today, because Fuller can out coach Jarman !!
Jarman's style of footy looks great and yes more often than not, they will win games coming from WAY behind BUT in some point of time (like in the finals) you must have a plan B that works !!
Mr Fuller on the other hand needs to develop a style of football that will beat the dog's in a finals game,perhaps some of what we saw yesterday is what is needed .
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Postby BPBRB » Mon Oct 02, 2006 5:53 pm

Well the Eagles played well and won but they didn't play anywhere near a full strength North side with the 4 key players out and 2 others in with obvious injuries (whether they should have played or not is subjective now as you roll the dice on selection night and take your luck?). I would like to see how North would have gone with a full strength side before commenting on whether Fuller out coached Jarman or not on yesteeday's performance. The previous 2 occasions he clearly did.
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Postby eddie eagle » Mon Oct 02, 2006 7:26 pm

Clearly outcoached, how cold you argue? Do you realise that the coach would normally put his balls on the line with selection. Eagles could have played an injured gun recruit in Luke Jarrad (second highest possession winner for the eagles this year) but the smarter coach said play reserves to prove your fitness.
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Postby Mickyj » Mon Oct 02, 2006 7:43 pm

eddie eagle wrote:Clearly outcoached, how cold you argue? Do you realise that the coach would normally put his balls on the line with selection. Eagles could have played an injured gun recruit in Luke Jarrad (second highest possession winner for the eagles this year) but the smarter coach said play reserves to prove your fitness.


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Postby Aerie » Tue Oct 03, 2006 10:22 am

BPBRB wrote:Well the Eagles played well and won but they didn't play anywhere near a full strength North side with the 4 key players out and 2 others in with obvious injuries (whether they should have played or not is subjective now as you roll the dice on selection night and take your luck?). I would like to see how North would have gone with a full strength side before commenting on whether Fuller out coached Jarman or not on yesteeday's performance. The previous 2 occasions he clearly did.


Weren't you full strength the other two times earlier in the season when we walloped you? Fact is Eagles are regularly good enough to be in front of North at full time no matter when, where or who is playing.
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Postby locky801 » Tue Oct 03, 2006 10:35 am

in one word No
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Postby Jimmy » Tue Oct 03, 2006 12:52 pm

now this thread is getting interesting...

coulda, shoulda, woulda, but DIDNT!!!

LMAO!!! :lol:
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Postby BPBRB » Tue Oct 03, 2006 12:56 pm

Aerie wrote:
BPBRB wrote:Well the Eagles played well and won but they didn't play anywhere near a full strength North side with the 4 key players out and 2 others in with obvious injuries (whether they should have played or not is subjective now as you roll the dice on selection night and take your luck?). I would like to see how North would have gone with a full strength side before commenting on whether Fuller out coached Jarman or not on yesteeday's performance. The previous 2 occasions he clearly did.


Weren't you full strength the other two times earlier in the season when we walloped you? Fact is Eagles are regularly good enough to be in front of North at full time no matter when, where or who is playing.


Fair call aerie but only the second time at Woodville did we have a very near full strength team, mind you our heads were not in that game and got spanked as a result. At least on Sunday we had a dip despite who was in or out. If you take the same quality players and the positions they play out of the Eagles side as we had missing I wonder what difference that would have made? You can also include having your best forward playing with one arm as well, which was a gamble at best and didn't really work in the end. At the end of the day the eagles were better and more poised on the day so they won and injuries, umpiring etc are no excuse. In reality the game should have been over when the Eagles had kicked 4-8 - should have been 8-4 IMO and end of story. As I said at least this one we didn't roll over and die like some of our previous games this year against the Eagles and Dogs.
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Postby dash61 » Tue Oct 03, 2006 1:47 pm

From an outsider looking in

The eagles looked throughout the game 4-8 goals better than the roosters, in the end a 7 point loss for the roosters, had Rysickkkkk and Wintle kicked straight like they can and the jokes on here now re the roosters would be on the other foot. Umpiring tilted slightly towards the eagles which again helped you get over the line as did Koops when he went back on as he cost two goals. Brad Dabrowski played his best 15 mins of football for 3 years.

Eagles had players who stood up for a change, got lots of possessions and some actually tackled feriously all day, skipworth, Collville and powell (Kicking isnt his best attribute) Chicorella was good all day for the ones who want to joke about him. The eagles midfield kicked ass all day. Im nuetral in my thoughts on both sides.

The eagle gun forwards Passador, Grocke and Inkster better play well against the dogs or its a case of ??? Dejevue ??? again. They are the ones who go missing
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Postby Adelaide Hawk » Tue Oct 03, 2006 2:26 pm

Dejevue?
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Postby dash61 » Tue Oct 03, 2006 2:30 pm

Yes you are right

??? Dejevue ???

Should have said "Another repeat of history", how do you spell that french word dejarview????
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Postby RoosterMarty » Tue Oct 03, 2006 2:40 pm

deja vu?
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