Norwood Pokies Application APPROVED

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Postby Wedgie » Wed Nov 08, 2006 10:49 am

Jimmy wrote:back on topic...someone said that the results of this application wont take effect for a while. Thats tough reality that sturt are now currently going through but have faith and it will work out.

all the best.

Applications that are approved can usually be implemented immediately. I think there's a month when the decision can be appealed so perhaps they'll wait for that time to elapse before working on progress.
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Postby manny » Mon Dec 04, 2006 6:09 pm

According to the Norwood forum, the Highlander has appealed. Apparently there are still people who are unaware who has been behind the legal stonewalling so just letting everyone know in case they want to spread the word and choose to drink at a SANFL friendly establishment rather than one actively screwing a club into the ground.
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Postby Wedgie » Mon Dec 04, 2006 6:56 pm

manny wrote:According to the Norwood forum, the Highlander has appealed. Apparently there are still people who are unaware who has been behind the legal stonewalling so just letting everyone know in case they want to spread the word and choose to drink at a SANFL friendly establishment rather than one actively screwing a club into the ground.

That's a shame, if Norwood get put through what North got put through it could send them broke, I was hoping the Highlander would do the right thing like the Halfway Hotel did in regard to the Eagles pokies as opposed to what happened with North.
Only thing in North's favour is we were up and running for the entire time of the appeal but I don't know if Norwood will be able to do that.
First step, everyone ring the Highlander up and book the place out for dinner and lunch for the next week and don't rock up!
It might not make much overall difference but made North fans a bit better when the Northern was fighting us. :twisted:
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Postby BPBRB » Mon Dec 04, 2006 11:01 pm

Wedgie wrote:
manny wrote:According to the Norwood forum, the Highlander has appealed. Apparently there are still people who are unaware who has been behind the legal stonewalling so just letting everyone know in case they want to spread the word and choose to drink at a SANFL friendly establishment rather than one actively screwing a club into the ground.

That's a shame, if Norwood get put through what North got put through it could send them broke, I was hoping the Highlander would do the right thing like the Halfway Hotel did in regard to the Eagles pokies as opposed to what happened with North.
Only thing in North's favour is we were up and running for the entire time of the appeal but I don't know if Norwood will be able to do that.
First step, everyone ring the Highlander up and book the place out for dinner and lunch for the next week and don't rock up!
It might not make much overall difference but made North fans a bit better when the Northern was fighting us. :twisted:


My mail from a good Norwood source is that the continuing delays mean that their all ready "mothballed" 40 gaming machines are considerably out of date and that is going to be an expensive update excercise in repalcing or updating machines in addition to the considerable borrowings needed for the building set up.

40 new machines at best would cost them $1.6m if they were to buy outright and even more over the term of a "rent to buy lease arrangement" which may be the preferred option than having to find a huge chunk of money to outright purchase. This option will mean the machines will have to work harder for longer to pay themselves off plus other borrowings incurred in setting up the pokie venture. Along with their other accumulated operating debts it could be a longtime before Norwood starts to see any real returns from pokies?

Hopefully for their sake the latest delay is won and they can get on with getting back on the long road to financial recovery for their sake and that of the SANFL in general.

P.S. Wedgie - don't forget one of our loyal club men is the Head Chef at the Highlander, I don't think "Gibbsy" will be too pleased to order food for no shows! :lol:
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Postby NFC » Tue Dec 05, 2006 12:19 am

Will anything go right for the mighty Norwood Football Club? :cry:
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Postby Jimmy » Tue Dec 05, 2006 1:54 am

calling Mr Blass, Mr Blass, are you there???
Serisouly, good luck to the NFC. :D
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Postby topsywaldron » Tue Dec 05, 2006 8:41 am

For what it's worth Drebin, the pokies aren't the only iron Norwood currently have in the fire to address our liquidity difficulties.

But then, you'd know that already wouldn't you? :D
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Postby BPBRB » Tue Dec 05, 2006 9:00 am

topsywaldron wrote:For what it's worth Drebin, the pokies aren't the only iron Norwood currently have in the fire to address our liquidity difficulties.

But then, you'd know that already wouldn't you? :D


I didn't suggest otherwise - just relaying what I was told by a prominent Norwood person. Naturally it would be expected that Norwood would have other contigency plans in place re it's current situation!:roll:
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Postby Adelaide Hawk » Tue Dec 05, 2006 12:38 pm

NFC wrote:Will anything go right for the mighty Norwood Football Club? :cry:


I attended a meeting last night to adopt changes to the constitution and there was a very positive feeling amongst the members. The pokies are a hiccup at this stage, could draw out to maybe February, but the feeling was Norwood are well and truly on our way back.
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Postby fester69 » Tue Dec 05, 2006 4:45 pm

Don't know what NFC meeting you were at Adelaide Hawk but the NFC one I attended had a lot of disgruntled members in attendance!
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Postby Wedgie » Tue Dec 05, 2006 4:58 pm

fester69 wrote:Don't know what NFC meeting you were at Adelaide Hawk but the NFC one I attended had a lot of disgruntled members in attendance!


That's what I heard too, weird thing they did with no reelections for board members next AGM.
I honestly can't believe a club has board members appointed by other board members too.
Great way to set up a boys club.
EVERY board position at North is elected by members and every position is up for re-election every 2 years.
I believe that's the way it should be at all clubs.
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Postby JK » Tue Dec 05, 2006 5:02 pm

Wedgie wrote:
fester69 wrote:Don't know what NFC meeting you were at Adelaide Hawk but the NFC one I attended had a lot of disgruntled members in attendance!


That's what I heard too, weird thing they did with no reelections for board members next AGM.
I honestly can't believe a club has board members appointed by other board members too.
Great way to set up a boys club.
EVERY board position at North is elected by members and every position is up for re-election every 2 years.
I believe that's the way it should be at all clubs.


The new setup will be much better in that regard (eventually), but ermm yeah, I would personally have liked to see it a little different to commence with...

No problem with members being co-opted to the board, I don't think they have the terms of those nominated and elected.
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Postby ca » Tue Dec 05, 2006 5:02 pm

Wedgie wrote:
fester69 wrote:Don't know what NFC meeting you were at Adelaide Hawk but the NFC one I attended had a lot of disgruntled members in attendance!


That's what I heard too, weird thing they did with no reelections for board members next AGM.
I honestly can't believe a club has board members appointed by other board members too.
Great way to set up a boys club.
EVERY board position at North is elected by members and every position is up for re-election every 2 years.
I believe that's the way it should be at all clubs.


Yep agreed, a good end result with the approval of the new constitution but I just wasn't happy how it was done. I don't think I was alone in thinking that.
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Postby Adelaide Hawk » Tue Dec 05, 2006 8:20 pm

fester69 wrote:Don't know what NFC meeting you were at Adelaide Hawk but the NFC one I attended had a lot of disgruntled members in attendance!


Disgruntled? The only bit they went on about was having 8 board members, not 6. Most didn't understand that had John Menz or Ian Stasinowsky allowed the alteration to their original motion, then they wiould have had to go away and review the constitutional changes once more which would have been costly to the club.

I would say mopre "confused" than disgruntled. In the end the changes were voted for in an overwhelming majority. I thought the meeting was held in very good spirits and the people I spoke with afterwards were very positive about the outcome.
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Postby Adelaide Hawk » Tue Dec 05, 2006 8:22 pm

Wedgie wrote:
fester69 wrote:EVERY board position at North is elected by members and every position is up for re-election every 2 years.
I believe that's the way it should be at all clubs.


This may come as a great surprise to you Wedgie, but not everyone sets up their club on the North Adelaide model. Nor should they.
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Postby dash61 » Tue Dec 05, 2006 8:29 pm

Adelaide Hawk wrote:
Wedgie wrote:
fester69 wrote:EVERY board position at North is elected by members and every position is up for re-election every 2 years.
I believe that's the way it should be at all clubs.


This may come as a great surprise to you Wedgie, but not everyone sets up their club on the North Adelaide model. Nor should they.


"Harrods Sale"

40 mint conditition poker machines have been made available by the norwood football club in australia, most of these are collectors items & urgently need new homes.

To be honest, Tiger Woods could hit a golf ball from the Highlander to the proposed old Pizza Hut site and being so close is a joke, ask yourself if you owned the Highlander would you appeal the decision????
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Postby Wedgie » Tue Dec 05, 2006 8:33 pm

Adelaide Hawk wrote:
fester69 wrote:EVERY board position at North is elected by members and every position is up for re-election every 2 years.
I believe that's the way it should be at all clubs.


This may come as a great surprise to you Wedgie, but not everyone sets up their club on the North Adelaide model. Nor should they.


Pretty ordinary attempt at deflecting the point, Im sure a lot of clubs have board members all elected by members (well every club Ive ever had anything to do with does), obviously I referred to North as Im more aware of how they work. Having a quick scan of the Norwood forum and talking to a few Norwood people today it seems that a lot of Norwood fans think this too. Get a grip dude, North has nothing to do with it, it was just an eg and your reaction was childish. Im assuming I hit a sore patch inadvertently and apologise for that because I too hope the Norwood FC get on track one day.

PS You need to quote me and not Fester I think?
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Postby topsywaldron » Tue Dec 05, 2006 9:56 pm

Adelaide Hawk wrote: then they would have had to go away and review the constitutional changes once more which would have been costly to the club.


How so? John Menz, Staz and Bill Moody are all on the board so where would we need to spend money by them reviewing it?

Maybe you were speaking metaphorically and refering to a 'cost to the club' in some other way? If so, I'd love to know what you think it is.

I really think Adelaide Hawk was at a different meeting to the rest of us. :)
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Postby topsywaldron » Tue Dec 05, 2006 10:08 pm

Wedgie wrote: Im sure a lot of clubs have board members all elected by members. Having a quick scan of the Norwood forum and talking to a few Norwood people today it seems that a lot of Norwood fans think this too.


Not the case at all. Norwood as a forward thinking club recognise the need for outside help to be co-opted onto the board from time to time. If you only had ex-footballers on the board, obviously the most appealing cadidate on a ballot form, there would certainly be times where they simply would not have the expertise to handle the more technical legal, legislative or financial aspects of running a commercial entity. No one I know disagrees with this and I can't see anyhting on our club's forum that indicates they do.

No elections being held for a while? That's a slightly different story.
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Postby BPBRB » Wed Dec 06, 2006 8:09 am

Wedgie wrote:
Adelaide Hawk wrote:
fester69 wrote:EVERY board position at North is elected by members and every position is up for re-election every 2 years.
I believe that's the way it should be at all clubs.


This may come as a great surprise to you Wedgie, but not everyone sets up their club on the North Adelaide model. Nor should they.


Pretty ordinary attempt at deflecting the point, Im sure a lot of clubs have board members all elected by members (well every club Ive ever had anything to do with does), obviously I referred to North as Im more aware of how they work. Having a quick scan of the Norwood forum and talking to a few Norwood people today it seems that a lot of Norwood fans think this too. Get a grip dude, North has nothing to do with it, it was just an eg and your reaction was childish. Im assuming I hit a sore patch inadvertently and apologise for that because I too hope the Norwood FC get on track one day.

PS You need to quote me and not Fester I think?


Adelaide Hawk - yep the Norwood model is working isn't it? :roll: It might help Norwood a little if they looked at the current North model (or one of the other successful SANFL operations) given the overall position of the two clubs presently? It took North a very short time to turn it's whole on and off field situation around in comparison to Norwood who since selling it's Wood St set-up several years ago has lurched from one financial disaster to another. Still you can keep throwing the barbs at North if it makes you feel better about your club.
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