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Postby BPBRB » Tue Dec 12, 2006 12:37 pm

I never mentioned getting excited about who you had actually recruited on your forum but rather you are getting excited about who you might pick up in the SANFL mini-draft which is what I actually mentioned in my previous post or did you not read it correctly?

The mini-draft is nothing to get too excited about as it is more hassle at times with player management and North have known lot's about that over the years and your club should be one who would also be wary given Bonnadio from this season for starters!
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Postby Aerie » Tue Dec 12, 2006 12:45 pm

BPBRB wrote:I never mentioned getting excited about who you had actually recruited on your forum but rather you are getting excited about who you might pick up in the SANFL mini-draft which is what I actually mentioned in my previous post or did you not read it correctly?

The mini-draft is nothing to get too excited about as it is more hassle at times with player management and North have known lot's about that over the years and your club should be one who would also be wary given Bonnadio from this season for starters!


Depends. The Eagles picked up Knights in the last pick of the December 2004 rookie draft (how did he last that long????) and he ended up doing alright for us in 2005. Watts was another who did ok in 2005. I guess those players were nothing to get excited about if you were a North supporter. They can be excellent value short term or you can get lucky and end up securing a long term player like Mark McKenzie. Of course for every Knights or McKenzie you'll get a Luke Peel or David Gallagher.
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Postby SimonH » Tue Dec 12, 2006 12:50 pm

The AFL wheel-of-chance probably took a little more from Norwood this year, than it put back.

Add as a full-time Norwood player
Chad Gibson

Damn well better be an add or someone will have some answering to do
Nick Batchelor

Delisted but seemingly not coming back
Nick Smith (the big one, not the one taken by Sydney in the rookie draft)

Gone part-time
Bryce Campbell
Adam Cockshell

Gone full-time
Gavin Hughes.

Add one pick in the PSD to that. I'm guessing that we'll have a pick of the balance after Boak and Tippett-- maybe David McKay if we want a speedster to replace Hughes, or Nafan Batsanis (although I'd generally take a drafted player over a rookie: the so-called Bonaddio rule). After that, should be more or less even.
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Re: Norths Losses

Postby dash61 » Tue Dec 12, 2006 3:22 pm

BPBRB wrote:
dash61 wrote:Gone
1 Shane Edwards
2 Nick Gill 50/50 may be a crows star :twisted: we hope and plays all year
3 Davis4 Campbell
Plus hargraves, koops and co

Gains
1 Motlop
2 Allan
3 Stribling
4 Sporn

BPBRB, at the moment the books are looking more left than strength gained


Compared to last year this years draft was kind to North.

We never had Davis back so he can hardly be a loss. Koops was a waste of money so hardly a loss, Hargraves was on his last legs and we still don't know about Ben Hart who would be a big plus if he commits? If Gill makes it great which should mean we would have Perrie back at Prospect to boost the fwd line so that could work in our favour?

I see you Westies fans on your forum are getting excited about who you might get in the SANFL mini-draft because despite all your in's (none of which anyone has heard of) you still lack substantial depth and strength in some key positions. If I were you Dash, I would worry about your club getting of the bottom rather than whether another club has an even balance re in's an outs or are you going to critique the other SANFL clubs in's and out's as well?

Who's list would you rather have - our's or yours?


From all accounts
NA had pencilled in
Davis
Livingstone
Jesse Smith

With the cheque books your bosses wheel around in a trailer, good to see money doesnt fix all problems, sorry i forgot most of these fall in love with prossie park and end up playing at norfs for luv.

At westies , our expectations are to get of the bottom and finish 7th would be fantastic, norfs are under more pressure to actually take that next step & norfs are the hunted and not the hunter. Should norfs not make the GF, papa bear and his harem of misfits would have to look a little shakey
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Postby Wedgie » Tue Dec 12, 2006 4:15 pm

Christ, Im absolutely stoked with the drafts. (I was devestated last year)
Originally I thought we could lose Gill, McIntyre, Millar, Edwards, Campbell and possibly not get any/many of the ex AFL players back or have James Allan who I think will be an absolute gun all be taken, to only lose 2 of those (and not get Matt Davis back)is a god send for North especially after last year.
Always a risk with North in drafts with the way they bring up and promote their juniors in recent times.

Only sad part of it was telling my son that his favourite player in Matty Campbell had gone, already had to tell him about his 2nd best player a couple of months ago and last year Roey was his favourite before he left to Brisbane. Poor lad's confused, wants to follow Brisbane, Kangaroos and Geelong now!

Ironic that Skipworth gets canned out of the AFL system when linked with the Kanagaroos while Matty Campbell progresses up the career ladder with the Kangaroos!
Karma Skippy, Karma! :twisted:

PS North get a transfer fee for Campbell and Gill for those unaware, I think its a reduced fee though. Not that it matters to North, we'd much rather have the players with money coming out of our backside. Be interesting to see if we re-enter the recruiting race to get a key defender or rely on Schubert, McIntyre (thank you) and Cox being key men up back?
The thing we need to recruit the most is a great medico to stop the injuries and word is that we now have the best. Could be out best recruit.
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Postby BPBRB » Tue Dec 12, 2006 4:19 pm

Aerie wrote:
BPBRB wrote:I never mentioned getting excited about who you had actually recruited on your forum but rather you are getting excited about who you might pick up in the SANFL mini-draft which is what I actually mentioned in my previous post or did you not read it correctly?

The mini-draft is nothing to get too excited about as it is more hassle at times with player management and North have known lot's about that over the years and your club should be one who would also be wary given Bonnadio from this season for starters!


Depends. The Eagles picked up Knights in the last pick of the December 2004 rookie draft (how did he last that long????) and he ended up doing alright for us in 2005. Watts was another who did ok in 2005. I guess those players were nothing to get excited about if you were a North supporter. They can be excellent value short term or you can get lucky and end up securing a long term player like Mark McKenzie. Of course for every Knights or McKenzie you'll get a Luke Peel or David Gallagher.


Fair point Aerie and a few good ones come through for all clubs but apart from Hudson and White we have had some duds too - Peel and Gilligan spring to mind.
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Re: Norths Losses

Postby - » Tue Dec 12, 2006 4:21 pm

dash61 wrote:
BPBRB wrote:
dash61 wrote:Gone
1 Shane Edwards
2 Nick Gill 50/50 may be a crows star :twisted: we hope and plays all year
3 Davis4 Campbell
Plus hargraves, koops and co

Gains
1 Motlop
2 Allan
3 Stribling
4 Sporn

BPBRB, at the moment the books are looking more left than strength gained


Compared to last year this years draft was kind to North.

We never had Davis back so he can hardly be a loss. Koops was a waste of money so hardly a loss, Hargraves was on his last legs and we still don't know about Ben Hart who would be a big plus if he commits? If Gill makes it great which should mean we would have Perrie back at Prospect to boost the fwd line so that could work in our favour?

I see you Westies fans on your forum are getting excited about who you might get in the SANFL mini-draft because despite all your in's (none of which anyone has heard of) you still lack substantial depth and strength in some key positions. If I were you Dash, I would worry about your club getting of the bottom rather than whether another club has an even balance re in's an outs or are you going to critique the other SANFL clubs in's and out's as well?

Who's list would you rather have - our's or yours?


From all accounts
NA had pencilled in
Davis
Livingstone
Jesse Smith

With the cheque books your bosses wheel around in a trailer, good to see money doesnt fix all problems, sorry i forgot most of these fall in love with prossie park and end up playing at norfs for luv.

At westies , our expectations are to get of the bottom and finish 7th would be fantastic, norfs are under more pressure to actually take that next step & norfs are the hunted and not the hunter. Should norfs not make the GF, papa bear and his harem of misfits would have to look a little shakey


not make the grand final?

Anything short of a premiership is unacceptable next season. Similar pressure to 87.
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Re: Norths Losses

Postby Wedgie » Tue Dec 12, 2006 4:22 pm

- wrote:not make the grand final?

Anything short of a premiership is unacceptable next season. Similar pressure to 87.


I agree, no use in making it if we don't win it, no difference between 2nd and 2nd to bottom in my book.
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Re: Norths Losses

Postby BPBRB » Tue Dec 12, 2006 4:30 pm

Wedgie wrote:
- wrote:not make the grand final?

Anything short of a premiership is unacceptable next season. Similar pressure to 87.


I agree, no use in making it if we don't win it, no difference between 2nd and 2nd to bottom in my book.


I'd rather be in the GF and lose than finish 2nd to bottom. It means your not that far away in all reality.
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Re: Norths Losses

Postby Wedgie » Tue Dec 12, 2006 4:35 pm

BPBRB wrote:I'd rather be in the GF and lose than finish 2nd to bottom. It means your not that far away in all reality.


I wouldn't in the wash up. Only benefit of playing in a GF or finals is you and your supporters have a bit more fun along the line.
Means nothing in the end, just my opinion though, Im well aware some/most people are happy to get 2nd, 3rd or 4th.
Bottom is a different kettle of fish though, an embarassment I want to avoid in all cases.
But ask yourself this, who gets the most jokes pointed at them about 1989, North who came 2nd or the bottom team?
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Postby am Bays » Tue Dec 12, 2006 4:38 pm

I dunno jokes pointed at you ain't bad compared to being a joke of a team (Sturt).... :wink:
Let that be a lesson to you Port, no one beats the Bays five times in a row in a GF and gets away with it!!!
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Re: Norths Losses

Postby BPBRB » Tue Dec 12, 2006 4:46 pm

Wedgie wrote:
BPBRB wrote:I'd rather be in the GF and lose than finish 2nd to bottom. It means your not that far away in all reality.


I wouldn't in the wash up. Only benefit of playing in a GF or finals is you and your supporters have a bit more fun along the line.
Means nothing in the end, just my opinion though, Im well aware some/most people are happy to get 2nd, 3rd or 4th.
Bottom is a different kettle of fish though, an embarassment I want to avoid in all cases.
But ask yourself this, who gets the most jokes pointed at them about 1989, North who came 2nd or the bottom team?


There's a difference between losing a GF and showing some fight as opposed to a complete debacle like us in 1989 and the Eagles in 2004.
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Postby Wedgie » Tue Dec 12, 2006 4:48 pm

BPBRB wrote:There's a difference between losing a GF and showing some fight as opposed to a complete debacle like us in 1989 and the Eagles in 2004.

Yeah, but doesn't make any difference to me, I'd rather lose a GF by 100 pts (something I don't think North's ever done) than lose one by 1pt.
Just me, yeah I know, Im weird.
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Re: Norths Losses

Postby BPBRB » Tue Dec 12, 2006 4:54 pm

Wedgie wrote:
BPBRB wrote:There's a difference between losing a GF and showing some fight as opposed to a complete debacle like us in 1989 and the Eagles in 2004.

Yeah, but doesn't make any difference to me, I'd rather lose a GF by 100 pts (something I don't think North's ever done) than lose one by 1pt.
Just me, yeah I know, Im weird.


Okay, seeing as we agree to disagree let's settle for the Prelim then! :lol:
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Postby Blue Boy » Tue Dec 12, 2006 5:09 pm

1980 Tassie Medalist wrote:I dunno jokes pointed at you ain't bad compared to being a joke of a team (Sturt).... :wink:



Tassie all I shall say to you is 13-4 !!! =;

I will take any bad team jokes from Norwood and Port Supporters only as they are the only teams that have won more premierships than us !!!

And as North are equal with us I shall take any joke on a game by game base !!!

By the way how did you celebrate the 20 year anniversary this year !!!
It is what it is !!!
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Postby am Bays » Tue Dec 12, 2006 5:18 pm

Blue Boy wrote:
1980 Tassie Medalist wrote:I dunno jokes pointed at you ain't bad compared to being a joke of a team (Sturt).... :wink:



Tassie all I shall say to you is 13-4 !!! =;

I will take any bad team jokes from Norwood and Port Supporters only as they are the only teams that have won more premierships than us !!!

And as North are equal with us I shall take any joke on a game by game base !!!

By the way how did you celebrate the 20 year anniversary this year !!!


Mate talking about 1989 only and if you want to, extend it to 1995, and hey I'll freely admit we were a joke 2000-2003.

Teams that come last are a joke, by and large as it reflects many poor things about the club, its playing and coaching group.

Not making insinuations outside those years as I agree 100% 13-4 speaks for itself.
Let that be a lesson to you Port, no one beats the Bays five times in a row in a GF and gets away with it!!!
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Postby Blue Boy » Tue Dec 12, 2006 5:27 pm

1980 Tassie Medalist wrote:
Blue Boy wrote:
1980 Tassie Medalist wrote:I dunno jokes pointed at you ain't bad compared to being a joke of a team (Sturt).... :wink:



Tassie all I shall say to you is 13-4 !!! =;

I will take any bad team jokes from Norwood and Port Supporters only as they are the only teams that have won more premierships than us !!!

And as North are equal with us I shall take any joke on a game by game base !!!

By the way how did you celebrate the 20 year anniversary this year !!!


Mate talking about 1989 only and if you want to, extend it to 1995, and hey I'll freely admit we were a joke 2000-2003.

Teams that come last are a joke, by and large as it reflects many poor things about the club, its playing and coaching group.

Not making insinuations outside those years as I agree 100% 13-4 speaks for itself.


Good response Tassie !!!

Now I feel bad about the 20 year quote !!! :oops:
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Postby Wedgie » Tue Dec 12, 2006 5:30 pm

Blue Boy wrote:
1980 Tassie Medalist wrote:
Blue Boy wrote:
1980 Tassie Medalist wrote:I dunno jokes pointed at you ain't bad compared to being a joke of a team (Sturt).... :wink:



Tassie all I shall say to you is 13-4 !!! =;

I will take any bad team jokes from Norwood and Port Supporters only as they are the only teams that have won more premierships than us !!!

And as North are equal with us I shall take any joke on a game by game base !!!

By the way how did you celebrate the 20 year anniversary this year !!!


Mate talking about 1989 only and if you want to, extend it to 1995, and hey I'll freely admit we were a joke 2000-2003.

Teams that come last are a joke, by and large as it reflects many poor things about the club, its playing and coaching group.

Not making insinuations outside those years as I agree 100% 13-4 speaks for itself.


Good response Tassie !!!

Now I feel bad about the 20 year quote !!! :oops:


They did have a 20 year reunion and a good night it was, I was there, Tassie wasn't though. :evil:
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Postby Mickyj » Tue Dec 12, 2006 5:50 pm

Dogwatcher wrote:Good results for SANFL clubs there - very little impact, except for the Pioneers' Matthew Campbell, and Gavin Hughes from Norwood.

I'm aware of Jacobs and McIntyre - but my impression is they didn't have much of an influence at league level this season, with their best well before them.

Would be disappointing for Heir and Hurley - both handy players. They'll get their shots next season after another year in SANFL company.


Dogwatcher I think you may find that Jacobs best game was against Centrals at Woodville oval when Lindsey was failing against taller jumping ruckman !
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Re: Norths Losses

Postby Punk Rooster » Tue Dec 12, 2006 5:56 pm

dash61 wrote:From all accounts
NA had pencilled in
Davis
Livingstone
Jesse Smith

With the cheque books your bosses wheel around in a trailer, good to see money doesnt fix all problems, sorry i forgot most of these fall in love with prossie park and end up playing at norfs for luv.

At westies , our expectations are to get of the bottom and finish 7th would be fantastic, norfs are under more pressure to actually take that next step & norfs are the hunted and not the hunter. Should norfs not make the GF, papa bear and his harem of misfits would have to look a little shakey

West would be speaking from experience in the 80's, eh?

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