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Postby firstblood » Wed May 16, 2007 11:23 am

I pose a question...why did Jericho choose Norwood to go to? Why wasn't he sent to the
next team (Sturt) that finished second to bottom last year ? Willetts didn't have a choice
although i'm happy he's with West. Doe's this open a can of worms for Crows/Power listed
players to choose who they want to play with if their not happy with the club they are tied to?
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Postby BPBRB » Wed May 16, 2007 11:54 am

mal wrote: HARGY Heard some heckling in a preseason trial game, but dunno who the supporters were


You seriously make sh*t up don't you? Hargy was injured for the North vs. Port trial and the only heckling he got was when he joined his North mates (me included) for a beer (or two) during the game because he was wearing the slimming black PAMFC polo shirt.

As pointed in other posts, North supporters are angry with the fact he got sacked from North and would love to have him finish his career at Prospect. Now Weatherley is out for up to 8 Weeks Hargs would be invaluable at FF. Should still be at Prospect. :twisted:
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Postby finn » Wed May 16, 2007 1:11 pm

firstblood wrote:I pose a question...why did Jericho choose Norwood to go to? Why wasn't he sent to the
next team (Sturt) that finished second to bottom last year ? Willetts didn't have a choice
although i'm happy he's with West. Doe's this open a can of worms for Crows/Power listed
players to choose who they want to play with if their not happy with the club they are tied to?


This may be wrong but I think afl listed players have to go to the team that is bottom at that time that they wish to transfer. previously they could go to their team of 'choice'. Is this the case?
This case may be muddied by the fact that he was a west player prior to be being afl listed - can anybody enlighten me as to whether this changes things?
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Postby HeartBeatsTrue » Wed May 16, 2007 1:25 pm

finn wrote:
firstblood wrote:I pose a question...why did Jericho choose Norwood to go to? Why wasn't he sent to the
next team (Sturt) that finished second to bottom last year ? Willetts didn't have a choice
although i'm happy he's with West. Doe's this open a can of worms for Crows/Power listed
players to choose who they want to play with if their not happy with the club they are tied to?


This may be wrong but I think afl listed players have to go to the team that is bottom at that time that they wish to transfer. previously they could go to their team of 'choice'. Is this the case?
This case may be muddied by the fact that he was a west player prior to be being afl listed - can anybody enlighten me as to whether this changes things?


This is a long shot theory, but the decision for his move might have been made on Saturday. On Saturday Norwood were bottom before the Glenelg-Eagles clash.
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Postby doggies4eva » Wed May 16, 2007 1:28 pm

finn wrote:
firstblood wrote:I pose a question...why did Jericho choose Norwood to go to? Why wasn't he sent to the
next team (Sturt) that finished second to bottom last year ? Willetts didn't have a choice
although i'm happy he's with West. Doe's this open a can of worms for Crows/Power listed
players to choose who they want to play with if their not happy with the club they are tied to?


This may be wrong but I think afl listed players have to go to the team that is bottom at that time that they wish to transfer. previously they could go to their team of 'choice'. Is this the case?
This case may be muddied by the fact that he was a west player prior to be being afl listed - can anybody enlighten me as to whether this changes things?

I don't think this is correct - see the thread on AFL/SANFL relations. Port have been a major gainer and I don't remember them being bottom lately.
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Postby HeartBeatsTrue » Wed May 16, 2007 1:36 pm

doggies4eva wrote:
finn wrote:
firstblood wrote:I pose a question...why did Jericho choose Norwood to go to? Why wasn't he sent to the
next team (Sturt) that finished second to bottom last year ? Willetts didn't have a choice
although i'm happy he's with West. Doe's this open a can of worms for Crows/Power listed
players to choose who they want to play with if their not happy with the club they are tied to?


This may be wrong but I think afl listed players have to go to the team that is bottom at that time that they wish to transfer. previously they could go to their team of 'choice'. Is this the case?
This case may be muddied by the fact that he was a west player prior to be being afl listed - can anybody enlighten me as to whether this changes things?

I don't think this is correct - see the thread on AFL/SANFL relations. Port have been a major gainer and I don't remember them being bottom lately.


I did say my theory was a long shot. Perhaps players can choose in this situation.
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Postby dash61 » Wed May 16, 2007 2:25 pm

HeartBeatsTrue wrote:
finn wrote:
firstblood wrote:I pose a question...why did Jericho choose Norwood to go to? Why wasn't he sent to the
next team (Sturt) that finished second to bottom last year ? Willetts didn't have a choice
although i'm happy he's with West. Doe's this open a can of worms for Crows/Power listed
players to choose who they want to play with if their not happy with the club they are tied to?


This may be wrong but I think afl listed players have to go to the team that is bottom at that time that they wish to transfer. previously they could go to their team of 'choice'. Is this the case?
This case may be muddied by the fact that he was a west player prior to be being afl listed - can anybody enlighten me as to whether this changes things?


This is a long hort theory, but the decision for his move might have been made on Saturday. On Saturday Norwood were bottom before the Glenelg-Eagles clash.[/quote]

I dont think so

The clearance was not organised by the crows, west were happy for him to go + $28K fee, Nwd have opened the purse strings and taken a punt on him. Willitts was the work of power and the bays were not happy for him to go and the fee was 5K for westies to pay.

The clearance of jericho is a bit of a precedent and may open the gates for moves of this sort in the future

Lets hope the crows dont do a deal where he ends up in melbourne and nwd lose the 28K

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The guy has talent and never set the world on fire at westies, he has a dodgy shoulder , small heart, and a father sticking his nose in, but in a new enviroment could set the world on fire, ie slattery at centrals, then he may be a lewis at the bays "DUD" who knows, plays for nwd for the next 10 years and wins a magarey
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Postby MST » Wed May 16, 2007 3:33 pm

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Wedgie wrote:Pesonally Ive only been bitter about one North player lining up for another club and that was because no other club in the state would play him after what he did.
an ex-North Premiership player?


I think we all know who Wedgie speaks of Punk.
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Postby redandblack » Wed May 16, 2007 3:36 pm

HeartBeatsTrue wrote:
doggies4eva wrote:
finn wrote:
firstblood wrote:I pose a question...why did Jericho choose Norwood to go to? Why wasn't he sent to the
next team (Sturt) that finished second to bottom last year ? Willetts didn't have a choice
although i'm happy he's with West. Doe's this open a can of worms for Crows/Power listed
players to choose who they want to play with if their not happy with the club they are tied to?


This may be wrong but I think afl listed players have to go to the team that is bottom at that time that they wish to transfer. previously they could go to their team of 'choice'. Is this the case?
This case may be muddied by the fact that he was a west player prior to be being afl listed - can anybody enlighten me as to whether this changes things?

I don't think this is correct - see the thread on AFL/SANFL relations. Port have been a major gainer and I don't remember them being bottom lately.


I did say my theory was a long shot. Perhaps players can choose in this situation.


Jericho would have been offered to Sturt first, but I would say thay decided they didn't want to pay the transfer fee.

Norwood was next cab off the rank.
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Postby Coorong » Wed May 16, 2007 5:39 pm

Then If we were still bottom he would have........?

I think you are on the money R&B, the boy was not happy staying at Westies and it was mooted last year the Blues was his choice, But apparently happy to be a Leg. As I have said before, good luck to him, however there can be no place in OUR side for someone who doesnt want to play.

Heard the playing group are as happy about it as Luke!
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Postby dash61 » Wed May 16, 2007 6:11 pm

The crows were not a factor, jericho and norwood are the facts
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Postby Coorong » Wed May 16, 2007 6:15 pm

dash61 wrote:The crows were not a factor, jericho and norwood are the facts


Perhaps he will now be able to get the blonde tips at the same "salon" on the Parade where you are seen most Fridays 8) :oops:
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Postby Wedgie » Wed May 16, 2007 6:37 pm

Just on this issue I got a bit of clarification today.

Don't expect the Power or Crows to ever be in dispute with a SANFL club about their player but DO expect lots of players requesting to move (in most cases, obviously null and void in cases like Willits).

a) If its a dispute exists then the rules saying the player goes to the previous year's bottom club.
b) If a player just wants to move basically he can go where he wants to.

Both situations incur a transfer fee but the transfer fees for case a is minimal and goes up slightly if the bottom club turns him down, etc but a points system exists as per normal transfers which can mean a pretty hefty fee (someone did mention one somewhere for Jericho) exists for the 2nd case.

Glenelg actually played pretty hefty fees for both Clarke and Parker and ended up with about 7 games in total to show for it. :?
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Postby mal » Wed May 16, 2007 6:47 pm

BPBRB wrote:
mal wrote: HARGY Heard some heckling in a preseason trial game, but dunno who the supporters were


You seriously make sh*t up don't you? Hargy was injured for the North vs. Port trial and the only heckling he got was when he joined his North mates (me included) for a beer (or two) during the game because he was wearing the slimming black PAMFC polo shirt.

As pointed in other posts, North supporters are angry with the fact he got sacked from North and would love to have him finish his career at Prospect. Now Weatherley is out for up to 8 Weeks Hargs would be invaluable at FF. Should still be at Prospect. :twisted:


He was standing at the parade goals,
a couple of guys yelled something at him from around the forward pocket area
The 2 other guys I was with commented on what appeared to be heckling
But then again the 3 of us should get our ears checked out in case theres a problem
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Postby dash61 » Wed May 16, 2007 7:04 pm

Wedgie wrote:Just on this issue I got a bit of clarification today.

Don't expect the Power or Crows to ever be in dispute with a SANFL club about their player but DO expect lots of players requesting to move (in most cases, obviously null and void in cases like Willits).

a) If its a dispute exists then the rules saying the player goes to the previous year's bottom club.
b) If a player just wants to move basically he can go where he wants to.

Both situations incur a transfer fee but the transfer fees for case a is minimal and goes up slightly if the bottom club turns him down, etc but a points system exists as per normal transfers which can mean a pretty hefty fee (someone did mention one somewhere for Jericho) exists for the 2nd case.

Glenelg actually played pretty hefty fees for both Clarke and Parker and ended up with about 7 games in total to show for it. :?


Wedgie as i said 28K, with between 4-5 mil to play with , we have not seen the last of "Raiders Of No Club Rooms", strong word is watch player salaries, pressure from sturt & nowood will really hot things up with most coming from the latter. This has really opened the door to an area untouched.

Lets hope clubs dont return the favour by targeting the likes of Borlace etc. full on

Also watch that the AFL clubs dont close the loophole which could disrupt "their PLAYERS", just say a club goes and hassells a Perri or a Welsh and this upsets Kreigies and Riedies home there could be some changes to the rule
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Postby BPBRB » Wed May 16, 2007 7:52 pm

mal wrote:
BPBRB wrote:
mal wrote: HARGY Heard some heckling in a preseason trial game, but dunno who the supporters were


You seriously make sh*t up don't you? Hargy was injured for the North vs. Port trial and the only heckling he got was when he joined his North mates (me included) for a beer (or two) during the game because he was wearing the slimming black PAMFC polo shirt.

As pointed in other posts, North supporters are angry with the fact he got sacked from North and would love to have him finish his career at Prospect. Now Weatherley is out for up to 8 Weeks Hargs would be invaluable at FF. Should still be at Prospect. :twisted:


He was standing at the parade goals,
a couple of guys yelled something at him from around the forward pocket area
The 2 other guys I was with commented on what appeared to be heckling
But then again the 3 of us should get our ears checked out in case theres a problem


That was us you idiot :roll: - that's where we stood!
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Postby doggies4eva » Wed May 16, 2007 9:19 pm

Wedgie wrote:Just on this issue I got a bit of clarification today.

Don't expect the Power or Crows to ever be in dispute with a SANFL club about their player but DO expect lots of players requesting to move (in most cases, obviously null and void in cases like Willits).

a) If its a dispute exists then the rules saying the player goes to the previous year's bottom club.
b) If a player just wants to move basically he can go where he wants to.

Both situations incur a transfer fee but the transfer fees for case a is minimal and goes up slightly if the bottom club turns him down, etc but a points system exists as per normal transfers which can mean a pretty hefty fee (someone did mention one somewhere for Jericho) exists for the 2nd case.

Glenelg actually played pretty hefty fees for both Clarke and Parker and ended up with about 7 games in total to show for it. :?


Interesting. So theoretically if an AFL club was to whisper in a player's ear that he should request a transfer using rule b) above because it suited the agenda of that AFL club better then they could manipulate the system :shock:

Lucky that both of our AFL clubs are too ethical to do this :)
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Postby Wedgie » Wed May 16, 2007 9:22 pm

doggies4eva wrote:Interesting. So theoretically if an AFL club was to whisper in a player's ear that he should request a transfer using rule b) above because it suited the agenda of that AFL club better then they could manipulate the system :shock:

Lucky that both of our AFL clubs are too ethical to do this :)


Yeah kind of but as stated before the receiving club would be up for a largish tranfer fee which if I was a club these days I'd be reluctant to play as having more AFL players usually results in clubs going backwards not forwards. So there is a bit of a hindrance there, obviously not in this case or others like Clarke and Parker with clubs willing to pay very good money for someone who might not even play for their new club.
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Postby dash61 » Wed May 16, 2007 9:24 pm

Jericho and norwood, im telling ya those crowyers had nothin to do with this one and westies were keen for him to move on after 28K
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Postby sturt1 » Wed May 16, 2007 9:42 pm

firstblood wrote:I pose a question...why did Jericho choose Norwood to go to? Why wasn't he sent to the
next team (Sturt) that finished second to bottom last year ? Willetts didn't have a choice
although i'm happy he's with West. Doe's this open a can of worms for Crows/Power listed
players to choose who they want to play with if their not happy with the club they are tied to?


Maybe it only applies to blokes who are picked up in the sanfl mini draft.
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