Extreme disappointment with The Advertiser

[mal]

Doug Robertson is a very good footy journo.
I love reading his articles

[bulldogproud]

I will continue to buy The Advertiser as they generally give very good coverage to the SANFL. The criticism is about this weekend. To state that there is NO meaningful football on in Adelaide this weekend when we had a great round of the SANFL set up was very poor. Michelangelo stated that the AFL was lucky that no other code took advantage of the AFL's poor scheduling of not having matches in Adelaide this weekend. As a FOOTBALL writer, he could have taken the positive slant and promoted the great SANFL weekend. I have no gripe with Doug, Zac or Warren. They have pure passion for the SANFL, are super guys and each of them I am sure would have loved to have seen more coverage in this morning's paper. I really enjoyed working with them last year and know each of them as a wonderful friend.
Cheers.

[bulldogproud]

Graham, why stop buying the one paper that does cover the SANFL and switch to one that totally iignores it?? Is that not just telling The Advertiser to completely get rid of SANFL coverage???

[csbowes]

Unfortunately Rucci is representative of the football public in this state. When the Crows entered the competition, this state became exactly what it had criticised the Victorians for being for years, that being an inward looking, self-obsessed state that believes its own sh** doesn't stink and that its own AFL teams are the be all and end all of world sport.

I don't buy the Advertiser anymore and haven't for years. You'd be hard pressed to find a worse, more sensationalist joke of a paper in the country today. The sad thing is the paper reflects Adelaide society, its become a hick town with no interest in anything that is outside the borders of the Adelaide metro area.

In sport, people aren't interested in anything outside AAMI or Alberton.

I've never understood Crows fans that dropped their VFL and SANFL sides. Just because a new side is created closer to home, how do you suddenly switch allegience and drop what you supposedly always loved. Those fans were obviously only half-hearted supporters, as once a team is in your blood, you can't change for anything.

[SnappyTom]

Unfortunately Rucci is representative of the football public in this state. When the Crows entered the competition, this state became exactly what it had criticised the Victorians for being for years, that being an inward looking, self-obsessed state that believes its own sh** doesn't stink and that its own AFL teams are the be all and end all of world sport.

I don't buy the Advertiser anymore and haven't for years. You'd be hard pressed to find a worse, more sensationalist joke of a paper in the country today. The sad thing is the paper reflects Adelaide society, its become a hick town with no interest in anything that is outside the borders of the Adelaide metro area.

In sport, people aren't interested in anything outside AAMI or Alberton.

I've never understood Crows fans that dropped their VFL and SANFL sides. Just because a new side is created closer to home, how do you suddenly switch allegience and drop what you supposedly always loved. Those fans were obviously only half-hearted supporters, as once a team is in your blood, you can't change for anything.

I'm with you, Zip. Haven't bought the paper for years, it's the only vote we get (our pocket) to protest at the diatribe they churn out every day. Probably 90% of the articles are rumors, gossip, innuendo, or sk1t stirring - the makes some journo's demi gods. Same goes for some of the interstate journo's.

[Hondo]

I will continue to buy The Advertiser as they generally give very good coverage to the SANFL. The criticism is about this weekend. To state that there is NO meaningful football on in Adelaide this weekend when we had a great round of the SANFL set up was very poor. Michelangelo stated that the AFL was lucky that no other code took advantage of the AFL's poor scheduling of not having matches in Adelaide this weekend. As a FOOTBALL writer, he could have taken the positive slant and promoted the great SANFL weekend. I have no gripe with Doug, Zac or Warren. They have pure passion for the SANFL, are super guys and each of them I am sure would have loved to have seen more coverage in this morning's paper. I really enjoyed working with them last year and know each of them as a wonderful friend.
Cheers.

Good call Bulldogproud

No point cutting off your nose to spite your face. Anyone who follows the SANFL closely knows they have many different outlets to keep up with the news, such as this site. They don't rely on the Advertiser.

Rucci is on the 5AA Sunday Roast right now ..... call up!

[CK]

Wedgie, do you know if there would be any way of getting copies of the Sportsbeat posted to Mildura? Cheers

No I don't but I'd be prepared to follow it up, it'd be good if sportsbeat could perhaps get an online presence if they couldn't send copies I/S. Hopefully Chris Kendall is reading this and we'll see what we can do, worse comes to worse, if I find out the day they come out and there's a place close to work I could scan them. Sportsbeat was always good in the past but it really has gone up a couple of notches at least in the last couple of years. An awesome publication.

Thanks for everyone's support of Sportsbeat, very much appreciated. Bulldogproud - if you could ask your local publican to get in touch with our distribution department on 8224 1600, they should be able to organise copies to be sent each week. For any pubs or clubs interested in this, please do the same - they are happy to send them out to interested parties.

Wedgie - I will follow this up with the editorial area during the week and get back to you. It comes out Friday mornings, and I know in the CBD, the Strathmore, for one, has it available as soon as doors open. There are a number of pubs that have it available throughout the city and suburbs and as Phil mentioned, many SANFL clubs now also supply it. Must thank them for their support of our coverage of Rivalry Round also this week, it is enabling us to lift our coverage even further for the fans.

I sympathise entirely with Phil on the AA and Sunday Roast issue. For those not aware, I had been asked to appear on there recently for an SANFL spot, representing Sportsbeat, on Sunday mornings at 10.45. Twice, I rang the station at the appointed time; twice, I was given varying reasons as to why it couldn't happen that week. Having stayed home and then run late for commitments at Noarlunga, for one, I was reluctant to do so a third time until we had something formalised by the station. I am still waiting for that formalised process to occur. They have my contact details anytime they wish to place this process in motion.

The Advertiser SANFL football team, in my opinion, do an outstanding job in their coverage, given that AFL, with a larger audience, may attract more readers. While this is ultimately beneficial to publications such as Sportsbeat, I will always speak very strongly in defence of Doug, Zac and Warren and their personal commitment to the SANFL. I am extremely fortunate in being involved with ABC-TV's SANFL coverage, as we have the opportunity to bring rural fans the coverage of SANFL where otherwise they may not get a chance for it.

[PhilH]

I'll be on the Sunday Roast approx 11.10am

Any backup would be appeciated.

[CK]

Best of luck with it Phil - if I can't get on air (!), I will certainly listen with great interest.

[zipzap]

Fire up Phil!

[zipzap]

Storm in a tea cup? It all went very amicably - thought Rucci was stirring a bit with the North v South rivalry thing but you covered it beautifully and from then on he was actually quite balanced. Well done Phil on all the work you do for the SANFL as well as the Panthers of course

[FlyingHigh]

While the Advertiser's main concern is to look after its sales, and not to promote the SANFL as a priority, part of the article did say that the Power missed out on "vital exposure" it could have received in a week it was the only SA AFL team playing. To me, that is blatant "chairty" and promotion. Surely the Power are big enough to stand against the exposure the Crows get - so if he is allowed to write stuff like that, then surely we are entitled to want more SANFL coverage on a weekend like this.

While the AFL will always get greater coverage, what was the point of this article - it was just taking up space that could have been used for the SANFL or any other sport. So many of the articles in both papers are just AFL-filler, and I hate that.

[Hondo]

Storm in a tea cup? It all went very amicably - thought Rucci was stirring a bit with the North v South rivalry thing but you covered it beautifully and from then on he was actually quite balanced. Well done Phil on all the work you do for the SANFL as well as the Panthers of course

I thought it went very well and Phil handled it perfectly. We got 5-10 minutes of positive exposure for the SANFL on 5AA and Phil didn't sound like some idiot abusing Rucci which is how it usually goes down (even if Rucci deserves it sometimes).

If we go to war with the AFL who do you think will come off second best? The more we bag out Rucci, the Advertiser & 5AA the less likely they are to give the SANFL the coverage that we want. If someone calls you a d**khead do you invite them over for dinner?

On another note, it's disappointing to hear CK's story as a weekly SANFL update is exactly what that show needs. I think I'll send 5AA an email to support him. Others could do the same - just leave out the expletives

If you can't beat them join them ... or at least just take the gloves off.

[Strawb]

the SANFL does have more coverage in the advertiser than the VFL in the herald sun over here. But the local newspapers here give you more information than the herald. But the VFA used to get the same coverage as the VFL does now so not much has changed. On Rucci the guy is an idiot i cannot stand reading his crap and when it is in the herald i just avoid it. Adelaide needs a second paper and a decent one at that but the problem is adelaide is afraid of change. Remember when Max Basheer said that the South Australian Public isn't ready for a VFL club.

[zipzap]

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On another note, it's disappointing to hear CK's story as a weekly SANFL update is exactly what that show needs. I think I'll send 5AA an email to support him. Others could do the same - just leave out the expletives

Good idea Hondo - maybe make a poll on this site in support of a weekly 5AA SANFL segment hopefully fronted by CK? It would have to be worded well, otherwise we could end up with 1 X 5 min tokenistic slot per week (it needs to be in addition to, not in place of, their existing SANFL coverage). I reckon it would get lots of support from people on this site, and let's face it, media organisations like that respond to numbers.

How about: Should 5AA expand its existing coverage of the SANFL to include a regular segment (similar to Neil Kerley's, Wayne Carey's and Robert Walls' weekly AFL spots) by CK about results, club news, and upcoming games in the SANFL?

I dunno, just an idea