WEED NOT APPOINTED FOR 2008

[MST]

How did he get the job in the first place!Most ridiculous appointment since McIntosh to a league coaching role.

What a crock of shit

People seem to forget 'Macca' took Norwood to a preliminary final in his first season at the helm (2002) before losing to eventual Premier, Sturt.

His minor round record that year was 15-5 (from memory) and included two victories over Central District, including one at Elizabeth.

Plenty of experts on here of course CP.

I think the record might have even been better than that? (Spelly?)

In the years to follow he lost somewhere between 10-20 senior regulars to retirement and the $$ lure of amateur leagues ... He was never afforded the $$ to purchase top flight players from interstate and thus threw all his energies into the kids, many of which are still at the club and look to have a future.

Anyway good luck to the Weed, he is a champion bloke and I hope he finishes the season out well with Westies and gets another opportunity to coach at league level again somewhere down the track.

Pretty sure it was 15-5. I know Sturt went 16-4 (3 losses to Central and an upset loss on a wet Friday night at AO to Norwood )

I think the 'Dogs went 18-2, with their only losses both to Norwood.

No team outside the top three tasted victory over Central, Sturt or Norwood, although WWT went within a solitary point of knocking off Norwood in the major round.

History now I guess.

[*]Does this qualify as a thread hijacking?

[Footy Chick]

I wouldn't be surprised if Macca is approached to coach Westies next year (and NO, this isn't an official statement)

I would be surprised if he would be interested inthe job. Stop pushing up his case.

i didnt say he'd be interested (well I hope not), but with his recent successes he Westies may see him as a contender..

[Bluedemon]

I wouldn't be surprised if Macca is approached to coach Westies next year (and NO, this isn't an official statement)

I would be surprised if he would be interested inthe job. Stop pushing up his case.

i didnt say he'd be interested (well I hope not), but with his recent successes he Westies may see him as a contender..

[dash61]

So the early nominations are

1 Luke Norman
2 Broadie Atkinson
3 Garry McIntosh

Lets say it will be advertised nationally in the next 7-10 days, as a Westies supporter, "Who would i like?????, someone from outside the state with no pre concieved idea's and given authority to remove any players etc who he considers not part of his plan.

My wish, Maybe a Barry Mitchell, but i dont think we could afford someone who is probably on a $100k contract at present.

[MST]

So the early nominations are

1 Luke Norman
2 Broadie Atkinson
3 Garry McIntosh

Lets say it will be advertised nationally in the next 7-10 days, as a Westies supporter, "Who would i like?????, someone from outside the state with no pre concieved idea's and given authority to remove any players etc who he considers not part of his plan.

My wish, Maybe a Barry Mitchell, but i dont think we could afford someone who is probably on a $100k contract at present.

From an opposition supporters point of view, I would be very surprised if they appointed from within as they did with Wayne, so for me that would rule Brodie and Aishy out.

Luke Norman would be certain to apply and would have to be a show.

[spell_check]

Central were 18-2 in the Minor Round in 2002, Norwood was 17-3 and Sturt 16-4. Centrals only losses was to Norwood; Norwood lost to Sturt twice, and West once. That was the only loss to a team outside the top three that year by either team. And Sturt lost three times to Central and once to Norwood.

[Wedgie]

If Brodie Atkinson gets the job then then bloodntars.com will be coming down!

[Dan The Man]

At the end of the day there just isn't enough quality players at Westies. If Roy Laird was coaching Westies would they have done much better ? I doubt it !
If the Weed was coaching Central would they still be on top ? More than likely !

[am Bays]

*phwoooo* as Coorong aka the Duke blows the smoke from his .45....

First Doug, now the Weed, whose next Coorong on your single minded quest to Purge all on your hit list...???

Easier to write who's not on his hit list

Where the hell is He (Coorong) ????

Still getting the blood off his hands.....

Or sharpening the knives for the next victim on his list....

[Coorong]

*phwoooo* as Coorong aka the Duke blows the smoke from his .45....

First Doug, now the Weed, whose next Coorong on your single minded quest to Purge all on your hit list...???

Easier to write who's not on his hit list

Where the hell is He (Coorong) ????

Still getting the blood off his hands.....

Or sharpening the knives for the next victim on his list....

I am here, watching and reading. I make five observations

1. if at the start of the season we had swapped weed with Laird, Dogs would probably be about 3rd or 4th on the list and West would be around 5th or 6th

2. We dont actually have a "bad" list. Quite a few are quality players, but for "some" reason dont relate to the coach. I did hear once that his message to the playing group was confusing to anyone listening

3. Personally I dont think any of the assistants are up to it (as our ladder position indicates) and would be surprised if they nominated or were interviewed. We will go national and if it comes down to a Barry Mtchell type wanting $100k then such a candidate (if he has ability) will be appointed.

4. My statement on the Westies site last Saturday that weed had coached his last game and that the CEO Damian Phillips would coach for the balance of 2007 may still be the play. We have the bye this week and lots of discussions are "probably" going on behind closed doors

5. The "list" of players, coaches, officials and onfield support will be much different for 2008 (and rightly so) we are old and stale at the moment. But this will change (and has to) I was told last year that we were aiming at 2008 for our "re-birth" and I chastised my informant. However in hindsight he was right and the business plan developed was the right one.
I hate the phrase to enjoy the glory, first you must suffer the pain, and this year is much worse than predicted, but we will recover, surprise and once again be a feared competitor in the years ahead.

[am Bays]

4. My statement on the Westies site last Saturday that weed had coached his last game and that the CEO Damian Phillips would coach for the balance of 2007 may still be the play. We have the bye this week and lots of discussions are "probably" going on behind closed doors

This is a genuine question not a troll...

The question that has been in my mind since Phillips was appointed is how long is he going to stay????

The professional sport industry is very transient and opportunities are always arising particualrly where sports are based (in this case Melbourne) I honestly can't see him staying longer than 3-5 years (most likely 3 before an opportunity arises at an AFL club or at Football Victoria) and he is back home...

I could be wrong but the experience SANFL clubs have had inopicking young ambitious Victorian coaches (Clarkson Noble) could well be repeaed by clubs picking young ambitious administrators...

And like coaching chopping and changing coaches chopping and changing adminsitration is problematic for the ongoing succes of sporting organisations...

[bosvit]

4. My statement on the Westies site last Saturday that weed had coached his last game and that the CEO Damian Phillips would coach for the balance of 2007 may still be the play. We have the bye this week and lots of discussions are "probably" going on behind closed doors

This is a genuine question not a troll...

The question that has been in my mind since Phillips was appointed is how long is he going to stay????

The professional sport industry is very transient and opportunities are always arising particualrly where sports are based (in this case Melbourne) I honestly can't see him staying longer than 3-5 years (most likely 3 before an opportunity arises at an AFL club or at Football Victoria) and he is back home...

I could be wrong but the experience SANFL clubs have had inopicking young ambitious Victorian coaches (Clarkson Noble) could well be repeaed by clubs picking young ambitious administrators...

And like coaching chopping and changing coaches chopping and changing adminsitration is problematic for the ongoing succes of sporting organisations...

Yeah but we have only had 2 CEO's in about 200 years......

[Thiele]

Looks like my job is a for grabs

[Dutchy]

Looks like my job is a for grabs

what role do you take down there Thiele?

[Thiele]

Drinks steward for league and reserves

[bosvit]

But seriously I think WAFC need someone who is that ambitious that they want to go to AFL as an administrator.

If Damien was not good enough to go to that level he is probably not good enough to turn the runaway ship that WAFC is around.

If he stays for 3 years and heads us in the right direction before he moves on (if he moves on) he has been worth every penny. IMO that would allow a life long club man etc to take over and keep it all on track.

Same with the coach. It is going to take some one with more than just a good football coaching brain, we need an AFL coaching mind set at WAFC. By that I mean some one who regards the psyche and attitude of the players as his responsibility and just as if not more important to the future of the club than the style of play he is bringing with him.

There is an inherent problem at WAFC when it comes to the mental approach of the player, I dont mean this in a derogatory way at all and I am sure that the players are less aware of it than the spectators.

It is going to be a monumental job for someone to come in and change this culture and IMO this is the number one enemy of the Bloods and we need to find a coach that can smash it out of us, and that includes the spectators IMO. So we may just have to keep changing coaches every 2-3 years until we find the right one.

I realise this has not worked all that well at the bay since the early 90s but what else can you do?

The other thing we lack as much as anything else is on field leadership, wheres Luke Norman when you need him

[Coorong]

You may have heard the phrase planned succession at other companies and clubs. Was a phrase outlawed at WAFC, but is now very much part of our persona

[redandblack]

Coorong, your 'informant' has had the worst track record of anyone on here, so i would suggest you give him or her the flick

The thought that Damien Phillips will coach us this season is totally bizarre. You've predicted Weed's immediate demise at least three times, including last year and it eventually happened at about the time most people at Westies thought it would. Your further prediction that the assistants would all go last week was also never going to happen.

A moment's serious analysis of the Centrals list and the West list would also show your statement about Weed and Laird to be nonsense. Which West players would make Centrals team and who would they replace? I'd invite Centrals fans to answer that too. It won't take long.

How about giving a moment's thought to some serious analysis instead of just regurgitating silly rumours fed to you from someone at Westies who thinks they know what's going on, but doesn't.

I would be interested in your serious thoughts about our playing list and future prospects.

[Hondo]

1. if at the start of the season we had swapped weed with Laird, Dogs would probably be about 3rd or 4th on the list and West would be around 5th or 6th

There'd possibly be some improvement in Westies and a drop off in Centrals but 3 places change either is way TOO big a call IMHO

[MST]

Central were 18-2 in the Minor Round in 2002, Norwood was 17-3 and Sturt 16-4. Centrals only losses was to Norwood; Norwood lost to Sturt twice, and West once. That was the only loss to a team outside the top three that year by either team. And Sturt lost three times to Central and once to Norwood.

Cheers Spelly.