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Re: INS and OUTS for 2024

PostPosted: Tue Nov 14, 2023 8:18 pm
by Brodlach
It’s not the first time it has occurred

Re: INS and OUTS for 2024

PostPosted: Tue Nov 14, 2023 8:23 pm
by sib
Excellent for Welsh. Gets into the afl program a year early.

Re: INS and OUTS for 2024

PostPosted: Tue Nov 14, 2023 8:28 pm
by Dogs64
goddy11 wrote:I'm totally pissed at this. The SANFL has totally yielded to the AFL even with their clubs threatening to leave the comp.

Tyler Welsh will leave Woodville-West Torrens to play with Adelaide's SANFL team next season.

and out of the goodness of their heart
"Arrangements are believed to include if he is not selected for Adelaide's SANFL team then Welsh will be able to play for the Woodville-West Torrens reserves or under-18s teams."


https://www.afl.com.au/news/1064327

Oh well, following Kurt Slavens lead.

Re: INS and OUTS for 2024

PostPosted: Tue Nov 14, 2023 8:28 pm
by Vamos
Brodlach wrote:
Vamos wrote:
hollywood7477 wrote:Got a question. Which 2023 B&F winner has retired. Heard a rumour that a Div 3 SAAFL club may have secured the 2023 B&F winner of an SANFL Club who has retired this year. Wouldnt give me the SANFL club though.


I'd guess Brooksby to Henley.

Doesn’t he live in Victoria?


Dunno, wouldn’t think it would be him then if so. Fits though, old enough for retirement, won the B&F and Div3 club, where his teammate in Broadbent is playing.

Re: INS and OUTS for 2024

PostPosted: Tue Nov 14, 2023 8:44 pm
by Big Phil
goddy11 wrote:I'm totally pissed at this. The SANFL has totally yielded to the AFL even with their clubs threatening to leave the comp.

Tyler Welsh will leave Woodville-West Torrens to play with Adelaide's SANFL team next season.

and out of the goodness of their heart
"Arrangements are believed to include if he is not selected for Adelaide's SANFL team then Welsh will be able to play for the Woodville-West Torrens reserves or under-18s teams."


https://www.afl.com.au/news/1064327


No different to what they did with North Adelaide's Blayne O'Loughlin this past season.

Re: INS and OUTS for 2024

PostPosted: Tue Nov 14, 2023 8:54 pm
by Dutchy
WWT develop the kid and fully expect to lose him at the end of 2024, but now he goes to a club a year early and WWT and their fans miss out on watching him, so bloody disrespectful and potentially reduces the connection he has at WWT and potentially stifles his development.

I can handle the loan scenario which has happened in the last for a small period of the season, but this makes my blood boil.

Im guessing on draft night he wears his AFC polo before he gets selected :roll:

Re: INS and OUTS for 2024

PostPosted: Tue Nov 14, 2023 9:01 pm
by goddy11
Dutchy wrote:WWT develop the kid and fully expect to lose him at the end of 2024, but now he goes to a club a year early and WWT and their fans miss out on watching him, so bloody disrespectful and potentially reduces the connection he has at WWT and potentially stifles his development.

I can handle the loan scenario which has happened in the last for a small period of the season, but this makes my blood boil.

Im guessing on draft night he wears his AFC polo before he gets selected :roll:



A few other F/s prospects that could potentially go.

PA has WWT player Rome Burgoyne, NA players Oliver Francou and Louie Montgomery available.

Re: INS and OUTS for 2024

PostPosted: Tue Nov 14, 2023 10:42 pm
by Vamos
Dutchy wrote:WWT develop the kid and fully expect to lose him at the end of 2024, but now he goes to a club a year early and WWT and their fans miss out on watching him, so bloody disrespectful and potentially reduces the connection he has at WWT and potentially stifles his development.

I can handle the loan scenario which has happened in the last for a small period of the season, but this makes my blood boil.

Im guessing on draft night he wears his AFC polo before he gets selected :roll:


Why wouldn't he, he's eligible as a FS for Adelaide and touted as a top 25 pick, Adelaide aren't passing on him and will likely show their intention to select him before draft night.

Re: INS and OUTS for 2024

PostPosted: Wed Nov 15, 2023 6:37 am
by goddy11
Big Phil wrote:
goddy11 wrote:I'm totally pissed at this. The SANFL has totally yielded to the AFL even with their clubs threatening to leave the comp.

Tyler Welsh will leave Woodville-West Torrens to play with Adelaide's SANFL team next season.

and out of the goodness of their heart
"Arrangements are believed to include if he is not selected for Adelaide's SANFL team then Welsh will be able to play for the Woodville-West Torrens reserves or under-18s teams."


https://www.afl.com.au/news/1064327


No different to what they did with North Adelaide's Blayne O'Loughlin this past season.


Wasn't Blayne 19yo at the time and NGA. A very different situation at draft time. I am not sure he was in Norths plans as a senior player.

Re: INS and OUTS for 2024

PostPosted: Wed Nov 15, 2023 9:23 am
by Brodlach
I can’t for the life of me remember but Port did the same thing with a West Adelaide player a few years ago

Re: INS and OUTS for 2024

PostPosted: Wed Nov 15, 2023 9:33 am
by Booney
Brodlach wrote:I can’t for the life of me remember but Port did the same thing with a West Adelaide player a few years ago


The Next Gen Academy program aligns WWT, Norwood, South and West to Port.

When Port had Burgoyne "on loan" from WWT for 6 weeks I understood it to be part of the Next Gen program.

I see last night though and the end of 2021 :

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Re: INS and OUTS for 2024

PostPosted: Wed Nov 15, 2023 9:37 am
by Brodlach
It does make sense.

Re: INS and OUTS for 2024

PostPosted: Wed Nov 15, 2023 10:00 am
by gazzamagoo
Brodlach wrote:I can’t for the life of me remember but Port did the same thing with a West Adelaide player a few years ago


Kye Roberts.

Re: INS and OUTS for 2024

PostPosted: Wed Nov 15, 2023 10:03 am
by am Bays
Brodlach wrote:It does make sense.

Agreed if Port and Crows are basically making a commitment to drafting a F/S its best for the kids development to get them into their system ASAP.

Re: INS and OUTS for 2024

PostPosted: Wed Nov 15, 2023 10:07 am
by daysofourlives
Montgomerie will be at the Dogs, unfortunately the ones in the VFL though.
I hope this isnt a sign of the future where players think theyre a better chance to get back into the AFL system by playing VFL rather than SANFL

Re: INS and OUTS for 2024

PostPosted: Wed Nov 15, 2023 10:24 am
by Big Phil
daysofourlives wrote:Montgomerie will be at the Dogs, unfortunately the ones in the VFL though.
I hope this isnt a sign of the future where players think theyre a better chance to get back into the AFL system by playing VFL rather than SANFL

It's not a sign of the future, it is the current.

Have had a SANFL club Footy Manager tell me directly that this is exactly what is happening.

Jackson Hately was a combination of this reason and his partner working in Victoria, but Monty is 100% this reason.

Suspect if he doesn't get picked up in 2024 then he would likely return to SA in 2025.

Re: INS and OUTS for 2024

PostPosted: Wed Nov 15, 2023 10:33 am
by jet-airport
am Bays wrote:
Brodlach wrote:It does make sense.

Agreed if Port and Crows are basically making a commitment to drafting a F/S its best for the kids development to get them into their system ASAP.



Carlton i imagine circling ......... Camporeale x 2

Re: INS and OUTS for 2024

PostPosted: Wed Nov 15, 2023 10:34 am
by Eagles2014
Big Phil wrote:
daysofourlives wrote:Montgomerie will be at the Dogs, unfortunately the ones in the VFL though.
I hope this isnt a sign of the future where players think theyre a better chance to get back into the AFL system by playing VFL rather than SANFL

It's not a sign of the future, it is the current.

Have had a SANFL club Footy Manager tell me directly that this is exactly what is happening.

Jackson Hately was a combination of this reason and his partner working in Victoria, but Monty is 100% this reason.

Suspect if he doesn't get picked up in 2024 then he would likely return to SA in 2025.


Don't get that, we are 2nd best comp in the country and if you perform much better chance of being picked up :shock:

Re: INS and OUTS for 2024

PostPosted: Wed Nov 15, 2023 10:39 am
by UK Fan
Meh if they want to be top ups go for it. The VFL is shite and nothing to fear.

Weve already seen Lord, Gaspar, Murley, Coetee, Boyd and Barry etc... leave playing in the vfl to join sanfl.

If the last decade is to go by we will gain more than we lose.

Re: INS and OUTS for 2024

PostPosted: Wed Nov 15, 2023 10:42 am
by UK Fan
Im not sure this has been confirmed but a recruit for north

"Luke Lawrence has signed with SANFL club North Adelaide for 2024"

Former GWS academy midfielder