AFL RESERVES

[Psyber]

The PAFC want all their players aligned to the Magpies. Firstly it will save money as they will only have to watch one game. But the SANFL won't allow it.
This will force the club to explore secondary options and the ramifications that go with them.
But I defy anyone to point the finger at the PAFC and say they are choosing to kill off the Magpies.

Like the demise of both Port Adelaide clubs when the rest of the SANFL clubs get annoyed with their totally self-centred attitude and stop propping them up as they go on creating more debt for themselves?

Or perhaps the Tassie government would give them a grant to relocate there...

[beenreal]

Do you actually believe the merde you post?

Breathtaking arrogance, stupidity and basically not an effing clue.

And yet amongst your plethora of mindless insults, not a hint of meaningful rebuttal Topsy.

Typical

[Booney]

Do you actually believe the merde you post?

Breathtaking arrogance, stupidity and basically not an effing clue.

Play the ball, not the man..

[topsywaldron]

Do you actually believe the merde you post?

Breathtaking arrogance, stupidity and basically not an effing clue.

And yet amongst your plethora of mindless insults, not a hint of meaningful rebuttal Topsy.

Typical

Port proposed a merger that did not include the movement of AFL players to the SANFL club, this specific proposal was approved by the SANFL, owners of your AFL license and controllers of the league, and the same specific proposal was voted on and overwhelmingly approved by Port's members.

Pretty much end of story right there.

[D14]

Would it work if the Port Magpies Reserve's Team became the Powers Reserve Team and the Crows took over a (financially) struggling SANFL teams Reserves team, lets say Sturts? No Power or Crows listed players could be called up to the League sides only the filler players.

[topsywaldron]

So basically what the AFL clubs are saying is that their players will improve as footballers quicker by playing together against kids rather than for another team but competing against Brett Zorzi or Paul Thomas. I don't believe that for a minute, pure knee-jerk automaton thinking.

The Emperor's wearing nice clothes today isn't he? (which isn't a Metcalf reference)

[FlyingHigh]

And similarly, Topsy, a Luke Thompson playing with the likes of McKenzie, Powell etc etc each week.

[Booney]

So basically what the AFL clubs are saying is that their players will improve as footballers quicker by playing together against kids rather than for another team but competing against Brett Zorzi or Paul Thomas. I don't believe that for a minute, pure knee-jerk automaton thinking.

The Emperor's wearing nice clothes today isn't he? (which isn't a Metcalf reference)

No, D14 said that, not the AFL clubs.

[beenreal]

Do you actually believe the merde you post?

Breathtaking arrogance, stupidity and basically not an effing clue.

And yet amongst your plethora of mindless insults, not a hint of meaningful rebuttal Topsy.

Typical

Port proposed a merger that did not include the movement of AFL players to the SANFL club, this specific proposal was approved by the SANFL, owners of your AFL license and controllers of the league, and the same specific proposal was voted on and overwhelmingly approved by Port's members.

Pretty much end of story right there.

And since then, the majority of it's AFL competitors have moved towards maintaining their own Reserves squads.

If the SA Centre for Self Interest (SANFL Commission) maintains the position that the PAFC cannot use it's own Magpies, then no-one should be surprised when the PAFC explores other options to avoid being disadvantaged.

And let's not forget, it's the AFC that is threatening to pull all it's players from the SANFL next year.

[D14]

The AFL clubs think its more beneficial to be able to coach a reserves team to the same structures as the AFL side and be able to move players around and try them in different positions, I couldn't really care less, just trying to add to the conversation. But Booney maybe I should just do what the rest of you do on here and have a cry and talk about the same crap all day every day...

[topsywaldron]

And since then, the majority of it's AFL competitors have moved towards maintaining their own Reserves squads.

The merger was a year ago. Changed your mind so quickly?

If the SA Centre for Self Interest (SANFL Commission) maintains the position that the PAFC cannot use it's own Magpies, then no-one should be surprised when the PAFC explores other options to avoid being disadvantaged.

Name calling? Ten minutes ago that was verboten. Is this the same Commission you desperately lobbied to merge the clubs yet not the players, wait for it, just a year ago?

And let's not forget, it's the AFC that is threatening to pull all it's players from the SANFL next year.

Like I give a crap about what those nimrods do, we're talking about your mealy mouthed whinging and bleating here. About something you had approved a year ago. D'oh.

People like you, good old fashioned the world revolves around us Port types, make me happy the Power and the Magpies are flat out rubbish.

[topsywaldron]

The worst thing about this is that GoddenDynasty will jump on at some stage and agree with me. It's kind of like getting a unwitting character reference from Bob Katter.

[topsywaldron]

So basically what the AFL clubs are saying is that their players will improve as footballers quicker by playing together against kids rather than for another team but competing against Brett Zorzi or Paul Thomas. I don't believe that for a minute, pure knee-jerk automaton thinking.

The Emperor's wearing nice clothes today isn't he? (which isn't a Metcalf reference)

No, D14 said that, not the AFL clubs.

Why change the current structure then?

[Hazydog]

Like many SANFL supporters, I'm against the AFL teams fielding reserves sides in our comp. However I can see at least one advantage of an AFL team having its reserves all playing together for the same team each week - the fact that a young kid drafted from interstate would probably feel more comfortable playing with blokes he trained with all week, rather than being sent to an SANFL club where he would likely not know anyone. The benefit being that he would perhaps be less likely to feel estranged from his AFL club from Friday-Sunday and potentially would not be as likely to succumb to the "go home" factor.

[CUTTERMAN]

The PAFC want all their players aligned to the Magpies. Firstly it will save money as they will only have to watch one game. But the SANFL won't allow it.

This will force the club to explore secondary options and the ramifications that go with them.

But I defy anyone to point the finger at the PAFC and say they are choosing to kill off the Magpies.

By default they will kill off the Maggies. If they want AFL reserves so badly then they are going to have to make a choice as to how they do it and at what cost, the monetary cost and the risk of dividing their supporter base once again. No one will make them do this, it will be their own choice. The SANFL have stated that they will never allow AFL reserves into the senior comp. If they allow them in the SANFL reserves Port will never be winning another reserves flag again. Once the license is returned to Demitriou and theyre dolling out money to Port I think that they will be looking at cost cutting football expenditure and that will probably mean Port Magpies.
None of these decisions will the those of the SANFL, it will be those of the PAFC and the AFL.

[on the rails]

By default they will kill off the Maggies. If they want AFL reserves so badly then they are going to have to make a choice as to how they do it and at what cost, the monetary cost and the risk of dividing their supporter base once again.

My mail is that both the Crows and Port have conceded that they cannot field reserves teams in our League comp and the next best cost option is to field sides in our Reserves Comp. Port really want this because they can keep the Magpie supporters happy by playing that team in the prison bar black and white where as a stand alone AFL Reserves comp or the Power fielding a side in the VFL fopr example will ensure the Magpie and the Prison Bars are consigned to history.

The problem is with having the Power and Crows fielding sides in our reserves comp is that the Seniors will revert to 8 teams with the Magpies dropping out and the ressies will have 10? Good luck with trying to do the draw - you will have the absurd situation of having your exisiting club having it's seniors and reserves sides playing at different grounds on the same day so that would add addtional cost to the SANFL Clubs re support staff (Coaches / Trainers) alhtough most clubs only pay "petrol" money to their support staff who are in the main volunteers.

Also the other on going question is where so top up players come from to ensure that the Power and Crows can field 21 players ina reserves team when they start to clock up injuries.

Personally - let them find a comp eleswhere, remove the AFL listed players and the SANFL clubs all have an even playing field so to speak.

[Jim05]

By default they will kill off the Maggies. If they want AFL reserves so badly then they are going to have to make a choice as to how they do it and at what cost, the monetary cost and the risk of dividing their supporter base once again.

My mail is that both the Crows and Port have conceded that they cannot field reserves teams in our League comp and the next best cost option is to field sides in our Reserves Comp. Port really want this because they can keep the Magpie supporters happy by playing that team in the prison bar black and white where as a stand alone AFL Reserves comp or the Power fielding a side in the VFL fopr example will ensure the Magpie and the Prison Bars are consigned to history.

The problem is with having the Power and Crows fielding sides in our reserves comp is that the Seniors will revert to 8 teams with the Magpies dropping out and the ressies will have 10? Good luck with trying to do the draw - you will have the absurd situation of having your exisiting club having it's seniors and reserves sides playing at different grounds on the same day so that would add addtional cost to the SANFL Clubs re support staff (Coaches / Trainers) alhtough most clubs only pay "petrol" money to their support staff who are in the main volunteers.

Also the other on going question is where so top up players come from to ensure that the Power and Crows can field 21 players ina reserves team when they start to clock up injuries.

Personally - let them find a comp eleswhere, remove the AFL listed players and the SANFL clubs all have an even playing field so to speak.

Agree 100%
Piss them off to the VFL and then bring in a rule where the AFL clubs cant top up their reserves with anyone from an SANFL club at any age level.

[UK Fan]

If the SA Centre for Self Interest (SANFL Commission) maintains the position that the PAFC cannot use it's own Magpies, then no-one should be surprised when the PAFC explores other options to avoid being disadvantaged.

That's the same Sa centre of self interest that has kept PAFC alive with $14 mill worth of grants, remodeled the oneport merger which was unamiously voted against and approved a move to Adelaide Oval.

Selfish bassturds!!!

This re-unification keeps surpassing expectations!!!

[RB]

The problem is with having the Power and Crows fielding sides in our reserves comp is that the Seniors will revert to 8 teams with the Magpies dropping out and the ressies will have 10? Good luck with trying to do the draw - you will have the absurd situation of having your exisiting club having it's seniors and reserves sides playing at different grounds on the same day so that would add addtional cost to the SANFL Clubs re support staff (Coaches / Trainers) alhtough most clubs only pay "petrol" money to their support staff who are in the main volunteers.

I think that's what happened between 1959 and 1963. Hard to see how it would work, but I would much prefer that to having AFL Reserves teams in the SANFL league competition.

[beenreal]

Geez you need some new material.

Port Adelaide and it's supporters have been filling the coffers of the SANFL for over 100 years and all you can focus on is the past 6-7 where the world has changed to such an extent that even the well supported AFC can't turn a profit. But I suppose that's Port Adelaide's fault as well.

As for the commission, it was the SA Football Commission that exiled the Magpies to Ethelton. It was the SA Football Commission that voted against the original merger (only to back down when Andy Dimetriou got involved). And it is the SA Football Commission that maintains the position that PAFC players can't all be grouped at the Magpies.

And this is despite the fact that since the merger, almost TWO years ago the football world has changed to the extent that all competing AFL clubs are moving towards their own reserves squads.

You're already accusing the PAFC of being a drain on finances and yet you want them to resource a 3Rd