unley oval

[Rhino]

Why can't they have permanent fencing around Unley? It can still have gates that can be opened for public use.
The scoreboard can be moved and it won't have any affect on the public using the place either. In the long run it will save time and money (labour) for having to set up the temporary fence each time.

Unley Council will not allow it. The club must pay to have the temporary fencing erected on the morning of the game and removed immediately after the game. Like I said before, this problem stems from when we left in the 90's giving the council the ability to repatriate the oval. The council wasn't making it too damn easy the preceeding years before we left for Adelaide Oval either.

[Wedgie]

Yeah Wedge, that deafening roar from the outer wing at all other SANFL grounds always bursts my eardrums!! I would have thought a tightly packed crowd of 4000-5000 would be a much better atmosphere than the same number spread around the outer of a much bigger area? If you're talking 10000 people, well that's different. But those days are gone (barring the odd one or two exceptions). At least during the minor round.

The statements "My posts have the SANFL competition and its future at heart and are valid points" and "You shouldn't generalise and personally have a go at me, tell me where I'm wrong and discuss it in an adult manner like old blue and several others have manged to do",

are polar opposite to,

"Yeah why play at a ground with carparking, facilities, stands, better atmosphere, better location, better public transport, etc when you can play on an A5 ground with dog shit and can view the splendid donuts some clown did the night before in his Kingswood, would almost make the SANFL look semi professional, we couldn't have that!?

1. Not valid points
2. Not discussed in "adult manner"
3. Not productive
4. Not positive
5. Not required

Don't make those sorts of statements and (A) not expect an emotional response or (B) expect someone to believe their based on the foundation of having the SANFL and its future at heart. Far from constructive don't you think? That's where you're wrong, but hey, that's only my opinion.

If you want to be positive, perhaps come up with some ideas as to where the $$ will come from that would be required to make your Wayville suggestion viable? I have been advised over $1M is the amount required to make the facility viable for SANFL football eg. changerooms and showers to be built.

Cheers for that Rhino, you've got to remember all those statements in regard to Unley are my opinion and I'm actually seriously considering putting up a poll here soon to see if people would rather just me administer the site instead of me also bleating off my sometimes skewed and biased opinions, I seriously try to take that on board. I appreciate you telling me I shouldn't make those sort of posts (seriously), as you're a person who I really respect the opinion of and take heed of which is why I took exception to it.

I'll admit my "Wayville vision" is probably pie in the sky, I do not know the logisitics behind it, its just something I'd like to see happen. And I also admit its only my opinion that Unley make the SANFL look amateur, if a majority disagree with me then so be it. My No 1 preference would Sturt being played at an Unley like it used to be pre-1990, I thought it was an awesome ground with a great atmosphere, if those days are gone and can't be returned then so be it.

Thanks for that post but I will stick by the statement that my opinion only has the SANFL at heart, if I thought Sturt moving to Wayville would kill them off, wouldn't be viable and would rip the heart out of the Double Blues I'd backtrack in a hurry. I was hoping that you would realise I'm not "trolling" but just floating a discussion with my skewed opinion. I'm trying to get past the trolling stage, trying! lol

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Why can't they have permanent fencing around Unley? It can still have gates that can be opened for public use.
The scoreboard can be moved and it won't have any affect on the public using the place either. In the long run it will save time and money (labour) for having to set up the temporary fence each time.

Unley Council will not allow it. The club must pay to have the temporary fencing erected on the morning of the game and removed immediately after the game. Like I said before, this problem stems from when we left in the 90's giving the council the ability to repatriate the oval. The council wasn't making it too damn easy the preceeding years before we left for Adelaide Oval either.

That defies logic, but that's what can happen in a council.

[therisingblues]

IInteresting that the council has forced the issue about the fence, but it is a hinderance that hasn't affected our resolve to play at our home, and illustrates the lengths true Sturt people will go to just to have Sturt at Unley.
Wedgie, no one would deny that inner turmoil and poor decision making were at the forefront of the dark years at Unley, but moving away from our home was a part of the whole rotten situation. There are certain intangibles that burn on the forge of truly great football clubs, the sort of stuff that makes them fight on when everything seems lost, and provides stability when everything else appears to disintegrate. Unley is definitely a part of the Sturt legend. I may not have any solid proof, except to say that Sturt's record in the seasons they used Unley Oval as a base is probably in the vicinity of 10 to 20 times better than seasons we used Adelaide as a base. (Spelly, is a win/loss ratio for the two different scenarios possible...please?)

[Wedgie]

Fair enough trb, always enjoy your passionate posts.

Also if it helps, I and about half a dozen of my North mates were at Unley Oval that day to help fight off the merger.

[therisingblues]

Thanks Wedgie. Pleased to have anyone on board that was fighting for the common good during at that time.
Which day were you at just out of interest, the Sunday rally or the after work mid-week rally?

[Wedgie]

Thanks Wedgie. Pleased to have anyone on board that was fighting for the common good during at that time.
Which day were you at just out of interest, the Sunday rally or the after work mid-week rally?

The Sunday rally (well I'm pretty sure it was a weekend - definately wasn't in a mid week function).
I can still remember the old duck in the Grand Stand holding up the Rooster sign with the diagonal line over it like the anti smoking sign. For some reason she was anti cock.
Talked to Mark Aiston that day and he showed us prototypes for the proposed guernsey, he told us they were going to be called the patriots and dead set the guernsey looked like the American Flag.

Me and my mates actually got a gig on a few TV news broadcasts and got in the paper as well as organising a meeting at the Prospect Cricket Club (orginally planned for the lawns out the back but it rained), we were known as RAM (Roosters Against Merger), to say the least the North board at the time didn't like us and did everything in their power (which failed) to discredit us as the board at the time was all for it. Lucky for us the fans were on our side, not that it got that far as the Sturt faithful cut it off at the pass, thank christ as things may have got very ugly at Prossie.

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Sturt 1907-85;98-
Played 1532 Wins 841 Losses 677 Draws 14 Wins/Played % 54.9%

Sturt 1986-97
Played 258 Wins 63 Losses 192 Draws 3 Wins/Played % 24.4%

Sturt 1907-
Played 1790 Wins 904 Losses 869 Draws 17 Wins/Played % 50.5%

[therisingblues]

Strewth! The Double Blues united with the Cocks and playing under the American flag?
I was at both rallys, and I remember hearing about there being North people dead against the merger also, I think Sandy Nelson mentioned it at the Sunday rally. I gotta admit I was surprised that a club like North was even considering amalgamation at the time. In boxing terms Sturt looked as though it was dragging itself off the canvas on the eight count, but I couldn't imagine North having half the problems we were experiencing, yet the board was pushing for a partial sell out of identity and compromise of spirit, culture, history etc. A lot of credit has to go to you and the people who stood by the true North Adelaide at the time. It was heartening to hear that we more or less had support from that end of town. In the end the opinions of the majority prevented the few from making a very big mistake, especially looking at what the two clubs have achieved since.

Thanks for the stats Spelly! I reckon you could get a gig at NASA with your ability to seemingly dig statistics out of thin air,there'd never be Mars explorer robots getting tangled in their parachutes if you did. The probability rating would have to be zero!
P.S I think our 1988 season really props up that win loss ratio for Adelaide Oval home seasons. Anyway, not as bad as I expected.

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NASA wouldn't want any more Aussies invading their "Space" would they?

Always a pleasure to help out.

[Rhino]

That's what it's all about boys, tribal passion. Not plastic fantastic AFL.

[Punk Rooster]

What's done is done, with regards to Sturt leaving & retuning to Unley. Unley may not be a great ground, but at least it is "home". North were having a bun-fightwith the Prospect City Council the other year, with regards to lease, & if the stand-off had held tight, we would've been without a home. I think all SANFL clubs are settled in their homes, & have been for some while. The only change that should be considered, is WWT playing games at Thebarton. Seeing as the Councils bow to minority groups, & SANFL fans are clearly that, perhaps we should wield our influence?

[Strawb]

sarge your first post didn't emplain what you were getting at or where you were going with it. Then later on you explained it abit more in detail that is why i said what i said. If you had of explained what you where getting at people wouldn't have complained.

[Jimmy]

Just for the record and off track from my point but one I will disagree with you vehemently, Unley Oval IMHO has no atmosphere, being cattled into the same part of the ground is not a traditional footy crowd and I hate it to tell the truth, you need noise coming from the other side of the oval to get true footy atmosphere IMHO.

Wedgie, this is the complete opposite to what you said after that match. You were most impressed with the atmosphere at the ground the teams fans were making.

No doubt i expect you to put a spin on this to make me sound like im talking out of my ass

[Jimmy]

Yeah Wedge, that deafening roar from the outer wing at all other SANFL grounds always bursts my eardrums!! I would have thought a tightly packed crowd of 4000-5000 would be a much better atmosphere than the same number spread around the outer of a much bigger area? If you're talking 10000 people, well that's different. But those days are gone (barring the odd one or two exceptions). At least during the minor round.

The statements "My posts have the SANFL competition and its future at heart and are valid points" and "You shouldn't generalise and personally have a go at me, tell me where I'm wrong and discuss it in an adult manner like old blue and several others have manged to do",

are polar opposite to,

"Yeah why play at a ground with carparking, facilities, stands, better atmosphere, better location, better public transport, etc when you can play on an A5 ground with dog shit and can view the splendid donuts some clown did the night before in his Kingswood, would almost make the SANFL look semi professional, we couldn't have that!?

1. Not valid points
2. Not discussed in "adult manner"
3. Not productive
4. Not positive
5. Not required

Don't make those sorts of statements and (A) not expect an emotional response or (B) expect someone to believe their based on the foundation of having the SANFL and its future at heart. Far from constructive don't you think? That's where you're wrong, but hey, that's only my opinion.

If you want to be positive, perhaps come up with some ideas as to where the $$ will come from that would be required to make your Wayville suggestion viable? I have been advised over $1M is the amount required to make the facility viable for SANFL football eg. changerooms and showers to be built.

Cheers for that Rhino, you've got to remember all those statements in regard to Unley are my opinion and I'm actually seriously considering putting up a poll here soon to see if people would rather just me administer the site instead of me also bleating off my sometimes skewed and biased opinions, I seriously try to take that on board. I appreciate you telling me I shouldn't make those sort of posts (seriously), as you're a person who I really respect the opinion of and take heed of which is why I took exception to it.

I'll admit my "Wayville vision" is probably pie in the sky, I do not know the logisitics behind it, its just something I'd like to see happen. And I also admit its only my opinion that Unley make the SANFL look amateur, if a majority disagree with me then so be it. My No 1 preference would Sturt being played at an Unley like it used to be pre-1990, I thought it was an awesome ground with a great atmosphere, if those days are gone and can't be returned then so be it.

Thanks for that post but I will stick by the statement that my opinion only has the SANFL at heart, if I thought Sturt moving to Wayville would kill them off, wouldn't be viable and would rip the heart out of the Double Blues I'd backtrack in a hurry. I was hoping that you would realise I'm not "trolling" but just floating a discussion with my skewed opinion. I'm trying to get past the trolling stage, trying! lol

Wedgie, how did your kids get your login details....tell the little ones what a nice post it was, they must have got that from their mother

[Wedgie]

Wedgie, this is the complete opposite to what you said after that match. You were most impressed with the atmosphere at the ground the teams fans were making.

No doubt i expect you to put a spin on this to make me sound like im talking out of my ass

I don't even remember talking to you that day!
Sad part about it was I didn't have one drink that day. Was too hungover. Remember that hangover well.

[Jimmy]

Wedgie, this is the complete opposite to what you said after that match. You were most impressed with the atmosphere at the ground the teams fans were making.

No doubt i expect you to put a spin on this to make me sound like im talking out of my ass

I don't even remember talking to you that day!
Sad part about it was I didn't have one drink that day. Was too hungover. Remember that hangover well.

no we didnt chat (i was so depressed i couldnt look at anything red and white), but in the proceeding weeks you had nothing but praise for the atmosphere the match generated on FSA.

[Wedgie]

no we didnt chat (i was so depressed i couldnt look at anything red and white), but in the proceeding weeks you had nothing but praise for the atmosphere the match generated on FSA.

I did? You probably mistook my comments re the atmosphere amongst the North fans, I went to have a look at the Footysa topic in their archives but unfortunately all the comments are taken down for most archived subjects from back then now.

There's only 2 ovals where the North fans pack in tightly together as 1 bunch, Unley and Alberton. At Unley you're forced to, at Alberton we probably just want to minimise the chances of catching something from the locals!

[Jimmy]

no we didnt chat (i was so depressed i couldnt look at anything red and white), but in the proceeding weeks you had nothing but praise for the atmosphere the match generated on FSA.

I did? You probably mistook my comments re the atmosphere amongst the North fans, I went to have a look at the Footysa topic in their archives but unfortunately all the comments are taken down for most archived subjects from back then now.

There's only 2 ovals where the North fans pack in tightly together as 1 bunch, Unley and Alberton. At Unley you're forced to, at Alberton we probably just want to minimise the chances of catching something from the locals!

well, fyi, the atmosphere was absolutely fantastic all over the ground, way better than an afl game at footy park.

and yes stay together at alberton, safety in numbers

[Wedgie]

way better than an afl game at footy park.

Noarlunga has a better atmosphere during an U17s game than an afl game at footy park IMHO.