Rnd 18: Norwood v Port @ The Parade - POST GAME DISCUSSIONS

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Re: Rnd 18: Norwood v Port @ The Parade - POST GAME DISCUSSIONS

Postby mickey » Sat Jul 30, 2011 10:43 pm

A bit of both I think. But you would hope a player with 200+ games of AFL experience, would do better than 7 touches when playing on a kid with 10 sanfl league games under his belt.
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Re: Rnd 18: Norwood v Port @ The Parade - POST GAME DISCUSSIONS

Postby garygroundwork » Sat Jul 30, 2011 10:51 pm

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Re: Rnd 18: Norwood v Port @ The Parade - POST GAME DISCUSSIONS

Postby topsywaldron » Sat Jul 30, 2011 11:13 pm

mickey wrote:Eagleton 6 kicks, 1 handball, 1 mark & 1 goal

Clayton 15 kicks, 13 handballs, 4 marks & 2 goals 2 behinds

and Clayton hasnt played league footy for over a year...


Eagleton's team are top, not sure where Clayton's team currently sits on the table.
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Re: Rnd 18: Norwood v Port @ The Parade - POST GAME DISCUSSIONS

Postby mickey » Sat Jul 30, 2011 11:23 pm

Same place as before today game.
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Re: Rnd 18: Norwood v Port @ The Parade - POST GAME DISCUSSIONS

Postby topsywaldron » Sat Jul 30, 2011 11:28 pm

mickey wrote:Same place as before today game.


Exactly.
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Re: Rnd 18: Norwood v Port @ The Parade - POST GAME DISCUSSIONS

Postby mickey » Sat Jul 30, 2011 11:42 pm

and your point is topsy???

or is it ok for a team top of the ladder to have 1 of its 'star' players run around barely touching the ball all day??
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Re: Rnd 18: Norwood v Port @ The Parade - POST GAME DISCUSSIONS

Postby mickey » Sat Jul 30, 2011 11:44 pm

[quote="Adelaide Hawk"
Funny, I read a post from a Port supporter saying Port couldn't stop Norwood's midfield. I thought the exact opposite. I would think the centre clearances would have been heavily weighted in Port's favour. Just shows how two people can see things differently.[/quote]

Both teams had 6 centre clearances each, i dare say ports would have all come in the 1st qtr and the last 10 minutes of the game. Where norwoods would have been in the middle 2.5 where the game was there to be won
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Re: Rnd 18: Norwood v Port @ The Parade - POST GAME DISCUSSIONS

Postby Robe Dog » Sun Jul 31, 2011 12:18 am

So Eagleton has only 8 posessions, maybe he is sacrificing his game for the betterment of the team if he is tagged ? I will give the Port lad some credit for the role he played, obviously to get Eagleton frustrated & to curb his influence on a game. But come finals time I believe he will prove his worth to us.
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Re: Rnd 18: Norwood v Port @ The Parade - POST GAME DISCUSSIONS

Postby maccad » Sun Jul 31, 2011 1:15 am

just finished watching the replay and found out why eagleton could not get a touch, the port kid did not let go of him. The amount of times he was being held at ball was almost every time.
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Re: Rnd 18: Norwood v Port @ The Parade - POST GAME DISCUSSIONS

Postby Jim05 » Sun Jul 31, 2011 1:19 am

maccad wrote:just finished watching the replay and found out why eagleton could not get a touch, the port kid did not let go of him. The amount of times he was being held at ball was almost every time.

Have stuck up for Eags all year but today he had his colours lowered. It happens and at the end of the day we won and hopefully put another nail in Ports coffin for this season.
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Re: Rnd 18: Norwood v Port @ The Parade - POST GAME DISCUSSIONS

Postby JK » Sun Jul 31, 2011 2:10 am

The Sleeping Giant wrote:Correct mickey, just like Gallman a couple of weeks ago. The main reason Eagleton gets the hard tag is it totally throws him off his game. If he is left to get easy possies out wide, he can do some damage.


We (Norwood supporters) can defend/argue til the Cows come home but this is spot on, and we can't shy away from it ... Eagleton hasnt coped with the hard tag and his behaviour has made it blindingly obviously that he doesn't handle it - He obviously comes with expectation via his background and quality, but it's an expectation which he hasn't delivered on yet.

We will continue to back him to the hilt, but he owes the club a bit and hope he can deliver on that in the Major Round.
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Re: Rnd 18: Norwood v Port @ The Parade - POST GAME DISCUSSIONS

Postby Adelaide Hawk » Sun Jul 31, 2011 9:25 am

maccad wrote:just finished watching the replay and found out why eagleton could not get a touch, the port kid did not let go of him. The amount of times he was being held at ball was almost every time.


Yep, if the umpires just did their jobs, it would make Eagleton's task one helluva lot easier. Anyone can apply a hard tag if they are allowed to hold on all day. It has been a freaking joke all season.
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Re: Rnd 18: Norwood v Port @ The Parade - POST GAME DISCUSSIONS

Postby CK » Sun Jul 31, 2011 9:38 am

Had an extremely rare day off and watched from Coopers Hill. Just some general observations:

- Bit bemused at times by the umpiring, some odd ones paid and obvious ones - with the umpire on the correct side to pay them being missed.

- Jeremy Clayton took a little time to get into things - a contest on the grandstand wing early on was one he would have burnt an opponent right off of, 18 months ago, but to be expected at this stage for him - but class comes to the top when it counts, did some classic Clayton as the game wore on.

- Norwood looked a little short at times around the ground, which was to be expected with Doyle out, but wondered if a taller option needed in attack at times, to leave Dawe up there more often.

- Their first quarters in the last two weeks have been extremely slow and have allowed teams lower on the ladder to get a jump. Will be interesting to see how they respond if that is against Central or Eagles in the major round.

- Ground looked okay on top but must have been very spongy underneath, the ball looked really heavy in the reserves at times and also in the league.

- If Port could land a key forward with more consistency and a big defender for 2012, they have the real potential to cause damage with another pre-season under their belts. Someone needs to work on John Butcher's kicking action, even from afar, it is, at times, one of the oddest I've seen and seems to skew balls off the side a fair bit. It almost looks like his foot is going sideways on the action.

- Fantastic atmosphere on the Hill with the banter between the supporters great fun. Stood with my usual bunch of Norwood mates and some Port fans (G'day to Fatalberton) and it was classic Norwood v Port day up there.
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Re: Rnd 18: Norwood v Port @ The Parade - POST GAME DISCUSSIONS

Postby CENTURION » Sun Jul 31, 2011 10:05 am

JK wrote:
The Sleeping Giant wrote:Correct mickey, just like Gallman a couple of weeks ago. The main reason Eagleton gets the hard tag is it totally throws him off his game. If he is left to get easy possies out wide, he can do some damage.


We (Norwood supporters) can defend/argue til the Cows come home but this is spot on, and we can't shy away from it ... Eagleton hasnt coped with the hard tag and his behaviour has made it blindingly obviously that he doesn't handle it - He obviously comes with expectation via his background and quality, but it's an expectation which he hasn't delivered on yet.

We will continue to back him to the hilt, but he owes the club a bit and hope he can deliver on that in the Major Round.

wouldn't have been a problem if he went back to West.
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Re: Rnd 18: Norwood v Port @ The Parade - POST GAME DISCUSSIONS

Postby JK » Sun Jul 31, 2011 10:37 am

CENTURION wrote:
JK wrote:
The Sleeping Giant wrote:Correct mickey, just like Gallman a couple of weeks ago. The main reason Eagleton gets the hard tag is it totally throws him off his game. If he is left to get easy possies out wide, he can do some damage.


We (Norwood supporters) can defend/argue til the Cows come home but this is spot on, and we can't shy away from it ... Eagleton hasnt coped with the hard tag and his behaviour has made it blindingly obviously that he doesn't handle it - He obviously comes with expectation via his background and quality, but it's an expectation which he hasn't delivered on yet.

We will continue to back him to the hilt, but he owes the club a bit and hope he can deliver on that in the Major Round.

wouldn't have been a problem if he went back to West.


Quality player and quality bloke, so more than happy to have him .. I'll back him to cause some damage before the season is out
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Re: Rnd 18: Norwood v Port @ The Parade - POST GAME DISCUSSIONS

Postby Jim05 » Sun Jul 31, 2011 12:37 pm

Just read the paper and was staggered that Pfeiff didnt get in best. General consesus with the people near me was that he was clearly in top 2, obviously we were watching a differant game.
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Re: Rnd 18: Norwood v Port @ The Parade - POST GAME DISCUSSIONS

Postby topsywaldron » Sun Jul 31, 2011 2:25 pm

mickey wrote:or is it ok for a team top of the ladder to have 1 of its 'star' players run around barely touching the ball all day??


We're obviously more egalitarian at Norwood as we don't have 'stars', it's all about the team.

Who, incidentally, won yesterday.
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Re: Rnd 18: Norwood v Port @ The Parade - POST GAME DISCUSSIONS

Postby Big Phil » Sun Jul 31, 2011 4:13 pm

Jim05 wrote:Just read the paper and was staggered that Pfeiff didnt get in best. General consesus with the people near me was that he was clearly in top 2, obviously we were watching a differant game.


I thought he was okay, finishing with 25 touches, 5 marks and 3 clearances, but I thought a couple of times he over used the pill or missed the odd target here or there.

I think that is a good thing with Darren's game now, he can still rack up the touches, even if he isn't totally dominating. He did cop that massive hit from Harder in the sheppard.
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Re: Rnd 18: Norwood v Port @ The Parade - POST GAME DISCUSSIONS

Postby mickey » Sun Jul 31, 2011 9:09 pm

Topsy, i think you must still be pissed from standing on coopers hill too long on the weekend...

To say your egalitarian, and don't have stars us just ridiculous... and if that's the case, I hope all the players contracts are the same and all get the same match payments...

You seem to be having fun with the fact you won in the weekend, that's good, I hope your players and staff are just as happy with your performance, considering playing at your home ground, against a team you smashed by 100 points last time and are sitting mid table at best. Keep that attitude up and central will beat you in the gf again!
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Re: Rnd 18: Norwood v Port @ The Parade - POST GAME DISCUSSIONS

Postby NFC » Mon Aug 01, 2011 12:10 am

Jim05 wrote:Just read the paper and was staggered that Pfeiff didnt get in best. General consesus with the people near me was that he was clearly in top 2, obviously we were watching a differant game.

Agreed, it was staggering. He had our 2nd most touches and IMO when we were struggling early he was one of the few players who looked up and about. Also noticed he started copping a very heavy tag in the last quarter and a bit by Young, fair amount of holding going on...
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