Gavin Colville Awarded Premiership Medal

[Gilly]

No play = no medal. Too bad, so sad. If the club wants to recognise the efforts of all players that contributed throughout the year then that's up to them. Interesting that the SANFL have declared that it's a commission decision rather than a SANFL rule. Is the President of the SANFL the same Rod Payze that played for the Eagles in the 60s? Hmmm. Wonder if the generosity would have extended to an unlucky Centrals player had the result been different.

[scoob]

[quote="Gilly"]No play = no medal. Too bad, so sad. quote]

yeah i agree, that what makes winning a premiership medal so special!

[once_were_warriors]

Yeah Gilly its a conspiracy, get over October 1 ( unless there is a conspiracy in that as well)

[Gilly]

Not suggesting a conspiracy - an emotive decision perhaps.

Where do you draw the line? Should a Reserves medal go to each of the 60 boys that played Reserves for North this year? If the "club" effort argument is used, does every player at every level get one? Water boys? Administration? Hell, why not the members too?!? Make it easy - just chuck 'em in a Corn Flakes packet - medals for ALL!

[once_were_warriors]

I actually agree with you , premiership medals to the players on the field. There is no arguement from me.

The comment was based on your comment that he only got it because Payze is ex West Torrens.

[once_were_warriors]

On Gavin Collville

Everyone at the club knows he is the heart and sole of WWTFC

The reactions from the players , coach , staff and supporters after the final siren and back at Woodville Oval vindicates this.

4 times club champion and captain of the club.

We could not have a more courageous and outstanding leader if we scoured the earth ( over the top , but thats how i feel)

If anyone at the club deserved a medal it would be Gavin with Ronnie a nose in second place.

We know what Gavin is made of and thats why he is our Leader and will always be until he hangs up his boots.

However the medal represents those that took the field that day , plus the coach.

The honour board will show that he was the premiership captain

[Dogwatcher]

Great post Maori chief.
Says it all about Gavin and the grand final day significance of the medal.

The medal's for the day - the club recognises his role on the honour board and in celebrations.

[leftlegger]

Geez there are some grumpy bastards on this site.

Any one that has ever seen Eagles play over the last 5 or 6 years knows that GC deserves some sort of recognition for his contribution to the eagles flag.

The fact that it manifested in the league giving him an extra medal is irrelevent.
The fact that he recieved the acknowlegement is the important thing. And that will be special to HIM.

He knows that he didnt take the field that day. Who cares if it hasnt been done before! Get over it.

[rod_rooster]

On Gavin Collville

Everyone at the club knows he is the heart and sole of WWTFC

The reactions from the players , coach , staff and supporters after the final siren and back at Woodville Oval vindicates this.

4 times club champion and captain of the club.

We could not have a more courageous and outstanding leader if we scoured the earth ( over the top , but thats how i feel)

If anyone at the club deserved a medal it would be Gavin with Ronnie a nose in second place.

We know what Gavin is made of and thats why he is our Leader and will always be until he hangs up his boots.

However the medal represents those that took the field that day , plus the coach.

The honour board will show that he was the premiership captain

Agree with all but one of those points. Colville was the captain of the club but not premiership captain. You have to be a premiership player to be premiership captain and unfortunately for Colville he's neither. The club can recognise him however they choose (and he does deserve recognition as a fine player, leader etc) but if the honour board recognises him as Premiership captain then it is factually incorrect IMO.

[Dissident]

Lets say .....

Ron Fuller, or roy Laird last year ... fell ill (ala in the AFL recently) and couldn't coach the grand final.
The assistant coach would obviously step in on game day.


Who receives a medal? Assistant coach? Coach?
Who is the "premiership Coach" ?


This is my no means an attempt to justify the decision to give GC a medal, merely another question, hypothetical if you will.

[once_were_warriors]

As i see it

Cicca was the acting club captain on the day , Scratcha is the club captain.

The Club won the premiership hence Scratcha is a premiership captain.

And as far as all those concerned at WWTFC ( taking liberty here) and with respect to Cicca thats how it will be celebrated, honoured and remembered.

Cicca emulated Scratch in commitment and leadership on the day and should have won the JO Medal by 20 lengths.

[Pseudo]

Everyone at the club knows he is the heart and sole of WWTFC

No wonder he looked so downtrodden

[rod_rooster]

As i see it

Cicca was the acting club captain on the day , Scratcha is the club captain.

The Club won the premiership hence Scratcha is a premiership captain.

And as far as all those concerned at WWTFC ( taking liberty here) and with respect to Cicca thats how it will be celebrated, honoured and remembered.

Cicca emulated Scratch in commitment and leadership on the day and should have won the JO Medal by 20 lengths.

Fair enough. As i said it is up to the club how they recognise things. Still IMO and as it will be remembered by those outside the WWTFC, Cicollela captained the side on GF day and therefore is premiership captain.

Dissident that is a very interesting point regarding coaches. IMO the person who coaches the side on the day gets a medal but it's an interesting point of discussion.

[once_were_warriors]

soul = foundation = rock of Gibraltor

Does that get me out of my poor spelling?

[Gilly]

If you missed out on playing in a winning grand final for reasons other than suspension or form, please present this "Hard Luck Story" coupon to your local football association and receive a free Premiership Medallion.

[TroyGFC]

As much as I feel for Cicollela I dont think he should of got a medal. The club should honour him is some way else. If they have to give medals out to injured players the whole squad/trainers/doctors/coaches/stats people should get something like the rings in basketball or from memory the rugby world cup winners everyone got a medal. But for now no play-no medal.

[Dogwatcher]

I think Cicolella's received plenty of honouring this week....

[FlyingHigh]

As nice a gesture as it was, I can't agree with it. The premiership medals should be for the 21 + coach. This is why sport is so great, the emotion, the fairytales, the hard luck. The club should itself to do something at the B+F awards, but not an acutal premiership medal.

Same thing happened to me a few years ago, got dropped for A grade GF after playing most of the year and the last 10 games, but deserved to be dropped. Received a medal at club presentation (a league one like all the players) but it didn't feel right. It also cheapens it a little bit because you wonder how many they have actaully printed. I know the club were trying to do the right thing, but dstill didn't quite feel right.

Perhaps an appropriate thing would have been for Paul Stewart to give his to Gavin, but that is unfair to say whether a kid should or shouldn't do it.

TM - Can we guess? Rod Jameson?

[Dissident]

As nice a gesture as it was, I can't agree with it. The premiership medals should be for the 21 + coach. This is why sport is so great, the emotion, the fairytales, the hard luck. The club should itself to do something at the B+F awards, but not an acutal premiership medal.

Same thing happened to me a few years ago, got dropped for A grade GF after playing most of the year and the last 10 games, but deserved to be dropped. Received a medal at club presentation (a league one like all the players) but it didn't feel right. It also cheapens it a little bit because you wonder how many they have actaully printed. I know the club were trying to do the right thing, but dstill didn't quite feel right.

Perhaps an appropriate thing would have been for Paul Stewart to give his to Gavin, but that is unfair to say whether a kid should or shouldn't do it.

TM - Can we guess? Rod Jameson?

FlyingHigh - what are your thoughts on the situation I described above ?

[smac]

Interesting point Diss, personally I think there is a difference between coaches and players. A lot of prep goes in prior to a game and the game plan is being taught by the coach for the entire season (to enable the team to cope best when they lose a vital player, such as Colville). In essence, the coach doesn't 'play' regardless of whether he turns up or not.