2007 Ins and Outs

[dash61]

Whoever wrote the story must have a good memory

Brad Murray to join Magpies

Myrtleford captain Brad Murray will play for SANFL power Port Adelaide next season.

[Adelaide Hawk]

Whoever wrote the story must have a good memory

Brad Murray to join Magpies

Myrtleford captain Brad Murray will play for SANFL power Port Adelaide next season.

These interstaters get so confused about SANFL footy don't they?

[Wedgie]

i meant NORTH ADELAIDE

North Melbourne, Norht Adelaide, North Afghanstan, it doesn't matter, if mal purchased a membership for every club that was run better than his own he'd be a very poor man.

Successes of football clubs fluctuate throughout history.
Norwood and North are at different spectres.
North supporters keep your chin up it will turn eventually
North 1991...Norwood 1997.

Cheers mate, appreciate the thought but its unwarranted, having been a big part of the NAFC when it was down at its lowest and having a bit to do with other clubs and fans at various times I can tell you there's no more loyal passionate fans that North fans and we'll get by but your support does make it easier and we appreciate it.

[Macca19]

Best bet would probably be getting opinions of people who attended a majority of their club's reserves and league matches. From my point of view I think we had 2 or 3 kids who shouldn't have played league that did and 1 kid who didn't play league who should have. Speaking in terms of a net figure we gave more kids a chance that probably shouldn't have got it than stopping kids that deserved a go.

Magpies probably didnt do enough.

We debuted four in Dolling, Summerton, Looby and Thomas. Some more fringeys got some games in Mann, Gates, Harry, King. The 2nd batch are in their early 20s now so arent exactly young.

Of the debutants, Looby was a key player by the end of the season and the other three had some decent matches.

There were probably 3-4 other kids that deserved to get games that didnt. Tyson Wait, Joel Montgomerie, Cameron Miller and Jo Hay probably could have had a go at some point.

[heater31]

Tyson Wait was never going to play league this year after going overseas during preseason lucky enough to get a ressies game IMHO

[Jimmy]

James Allan, a zippy rover who came 5th in the Liston and made the VFL team of the year in the rover position and came 2nd to Salim Hassan in his club's B&F has officially been announced today (even though announced on here in another thread earlier).
Reports indicate he was leading the Liston (VFL B&F) and club B&F until he broke his arm.
Sounds like an absolute gun and will be lining up in a position North have been deficient at for a while.

could he be a chance to be picked up by the bulldogs who he is training with prior to the draft? hate to get burnt again or is he more likely not to get drafted?

[Wedgie]

could he be a chance to be picked up by the bulldogs who he is training with prior to the draft? hate to get burnt again or is he more likely not to get drafted?

No idea mate, knowing our luck he'll get picked up with the last draft selection in the Preseason draft or some sort of natural disaster will happen early next year resulting in an AFL club getting an extra selection and he'll get picked up then.

[Jar Man Out]

are we going to use the north lost 6 but gained 7 when defending them abusing the salary cap again this year.

What with Motlop Allen confirmed signed. Plus Francou Hart Morgan Sporn and Livingstone signed apparently waiting on draft to add to last years squad .

not even jack Eilliott could defend this.

[Wedgie]

are we going to use the north lost 6 but gained 7 when defending them abusing the salary cap again this year.

What with Motlop Allen confirmed signed. Plus Francou Hart Morgan Sporn and Livingstone signed apparently waiting on draft to add to last years squad .

not even jack Eilliott could defend this.

Let's hope all those you mentioned definately play and you've also got to take into account that Hargs and Koops were on 100k pa each and the salary cap has gone up too!

In all seriousness I know half way through the season North still had about 10% of 1/2 of the salary cap up their sleeve in 2006 so that with the increase might help but if North end up getting every player they have signed with no losses in either draft then yes I'd imagine (uneducated opinion with no factual basis or knowledge) that North would have to do some creative accounting.

Im sure Allan wont be cheap as he had a few clubs courting him and sounds like a gun but if some of the figures going around about players other clubs are and have recruited are close to the mark there's some other clubs that will be looked at closer.

I have no idea what Francou or Hart would be asking but you'd suspect they'd be playing more for having a kick than $$ especially Hart who I'd imagine would be on a nice wicket if he takes the job the Crows give him (which he would if he plays for North).

PS Welcome to SA Footy Mr Ducker, I hope you enjoy the site. I like your email address.

[mighty_tiger_79]

courtesy of ECKY apparently Josh Kruger is off too WA next year.

no surprise that he has officially left given he walked out half way through the year.

[westozfalcon]

Yes, Kruger has joined Perth Football Club - coached by Simon Eastaugh.

[braveheart]

are you the mark ducker that played for norwood or another

[Jar Man Out]

are you the mark ducker that played for norwood or another

there is no other.

Motlop Francou Hart Livingstone Morgan Sporn are all coming off afl careers which means six figures $$$ every year. not all are going to come and play for jars and the good of the guernsey.

With the loss of Koops and Hargraves maybe Gill plus kids sick of being untried.

dont worry Mal.With the way north are going. The next three yeears they could very well be forced to use nothing but local talent.

if i was the salary cap investigator. I would be talking to mr hargraves about how inventive with their contracts north really are. im sure he wont mind spilling the beans now.

[Jimmy]

are you the mark ducker that played for norwood or another

there is no other.

Motlop Francou Hart Livingstone Morgan Sporn are all coming off afl careers which means six figures $$$ every year. not all are going to come and play for jars and the good of the guernsey.

With the loss of Koops and Hargraves maybe Gill plus kids sick of being untried.

dont worry Mal.With the way north are going. The next three yeears they could very well be forced to use nothing but local talent.

if i was the salary cap investigator. I would be talking to mr hargraves about how inventive with their contracts north really are. im sure he wont mind spilling the beans now.

you are going to make a lot of friends very quickly with the north folk around here Mr. Ducker

I like your style, (homer simpson voice) "Do you have a pamphlet of brochure i can subscribe too?"

To add to your post, i dont think hargs will do a tuckey on north, not saying there is anything to tell

Ive come to realise that clubs are not going to get players 'to love the jumper' straight away but we all hope recruits come to embrace the club and learn to love the club over several years...in saying that...a few do hang around but mainly, the more high profile the recruits, the less likely that is.

Clubs just have to trust their judgement in the type of player they recruit.

[Punk Rooster]

Motlop Francou Hart Livingstone Morgan Sporn are all coming off afl careers which means six figures $$$ every year. not all are going to come and play for jars and the good of the guernsey.

Motlop would only be after a reasonable salary, Hart & Francou would virtulally be playing for the love of it (well under market value), while Morgan & Sporn would be playing for North in the absence of an AFL offer, so probably wouldn't be commanding a high figure. Livingstone being the targeted player, may do a little better,

With the loss of Koops and Hargraves maybe Gill plus kids sick of being untried.

Koops & Hargy will free up salary cap space- Koops especially, while Hargy was on a reduced contract from previous years anyway. As for the untried "kids"- 1 has left already, & there would be more to come. Centrals were in the same boat recently, as will every club at some stage.

dont worry Mal.With the way north are going. The next three yeears they could very well be forced to use nothing but local talent.

ignorant & fanciful statement

if i was the salary cap investigator. I would be talking to mr hargraves about how inventive with their contracts north really are. im sure he wont mind spilling the beans now.

So every player that leaves an SANFL club has a huge "bombshell" to drop on their former club? North have room in their cap, moreso next year with the increase of the cap. Anybody can make wild allegations, but all it is, is feeble mud-slinging....

[Wedgie]

Motlop Francou Hart Livingstone Morgan Sporn are all coming off afl careers which means six figures $$$ every year. not all are going to come and play for jars and the good of the guernsey.

Motlop would only be after a reasonable salary, Hart & Francou would virtulally be playing for the love of it (well under market value), while Morgan & Sporn would be playing for North in the absence of an AFL offer, so probably wouldn't be commanding a high figure. Livingstone being the targeted player, may do a little better,

With the loss of Koops and Hargraves maybe Gill plus kids sick of being untried.

Koops & Hargy will free up salary cap space- Koops especially, while Hargy was on a reduced contract from previous years anyway. As for the untried "kids"- 1 has left already, & there would be more to come. Centrals were in the same boat recently, as will every club at some stage.

dont worry Mal.With the way north are going. The next three yeears they could very well be forced to use nothing but local talent.

ignorant & fanciful statement

if i was the salary cap investigator. I would be talking to mr hargraves about how inventive with their contracts north really are. im sure he wont mind spilling the beans now.

So every player that leaves an SANFL club has a huge "bombshell" to drop on their former club? North have room in their cap, moreso next year with the increase of the cap. Anybody can make wild allegations, but all it is, is feeble mud-slinging....

[Macca19]

Tyson Wait was never going to play league this year after going overseas during preseason lucky enough to get a ressies game IMHO

Tyson was clearly our best player in the reserves in the 2nd half of the year. Should have got a game.

[sydney-dog]

Punk Rooster

Your kidding me

"Motlop would only be after a reasonable salary, Hart & Francou would virtulally be playing for the love of it"

Any ex AFL Player coming back to play at state league level no matter if it is his grass roots club has an expectation to be paid well

Footballers are ego driven and treat their football as a primary source of income and given the experience they bring back with them they expect to be paid accordingly

These boys don't play for love, this is why they want to play for as long as they come, because it is easy income

[mal]

Wedgie/Punky as you can see Im not the only one....

[sydney-dog]

Mal

you know it is a nice Romantic story titled

"Ex AFL Player thanks his club and plays for Love"

but Reality is, these players have earned a comfortable living playing footy and like us they have family, morgages, bills and food to put on the table

Going back to their SANFL club, they would consider themself to be a top 6 player, plus bring back a wealth of experience, taking on a leadership and mentor role, so these players would expected to be paid accordingly

Walsh at Westies is in the same boat, if Dew plays for the Dogs his expectations would be the same, Clive Waterhouse the same, the list goes on and on, so North supporters believing Ben and Josh would play for base salary is way of the mark