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Re: The never ending No AFL in the SANFL whinge thread

PostPosted: Fri Aug 04, 2017 10:02 am
by jo172
Dutchy wrote:
am Bays wrote:
Dutchy wrote:
Interesting one this, a few kids I coach are involved in this on top of their SANFL development, can only help them so well done Port, Crows do nothing for their zoned clubs....although I have heard Norwood are refusing to send any of their kids to Port :roll:


Crows have the Andrew Mcleod Academy program for the same population (indiginous and disadvantaged backgrounds) Couple of Glenelg players are involved in it as Glenelg is aligned to the Crows.


Yet nothing for non-indiginous zoned players.


http://www.afc.com.au/news/next-generation-academy

http://www.afc.com.au/news/2017-05-04/academy-expands-to-mid-north-

http://www.afc.com.au/news/2017-03-07/academy-to-cross-new-bridge

That's just patently untrue

Re: The never ending No AFL in the SANFL whinge thread

PostPosted: Fri Aug 04, 2017 11:07 am
by Dutchy
Good if you live in Murray Bridge I guess

Re: The never ending No AFL in the SANFL whinge thread

PostPosted: Sat Aug 05, 2017 12:19 am
by Wedgie
Reality hit me today, I've been to two games this year living in the inner western suburbs. Only 10 years ago I'd go to every game, even went to trial games interstate and never missed a game despite living 45 minutes away from Prospect. Only 3 years ago I was a part of the President's Group which cost me thousands of dollars a year. The two games I've been to this year are the Good Friday game as there was nothing else to do and the game at Noarlunga to catch up with my daughter who is a physio there.
This is what having teams in a comp play under different rules has done for me, have gone from a fanatic who went above and beyond the cause to someone who no longer cares.

Re: The never ending No AFL in the SANFL whinge thread

PostPosted: Sat Aug 05, 2017 8:17 am
by whufc
Wedgie wrote:Reality hit me today, I've been to two games this year living in the inner western suburbs. Only 10 years ago I'd go to every game, even went to trial games interstate and never missed a game despite living 45 minutes away from Prospect. Only 3 years ago I was a part of the President's Group which cost me thousands of dollars a year. The two games I've been to this year are the Good Friday game as there was nothing else to do and the game at Noarlunga to catch up with my daughter who is a physio there.
This is what having teams in a comp play under different rules has done for me, have gone from a fanatic who went above and beyond the cause to someone who no longer cares.


Yep pretty much same for me

Would hate to think how much money I put over the bars at SANFL in the late 90's and early 2000. Didnt miss any more than a couple of games home or away from late 1999 to 2014 that would be about 300 games roughly plus finals. At bare minimum I was spending $50 a game over the bar. That's about $15000 in bar sales before food (we lunches most weeks) before tickets and before bringing mates along who wouldn't not have normally came.

Lol this made me of think of a marketing idea now the membership tickets are scanned at grounds. Why can't clubs celebrate their supporters 50, 100, 200, 500 game visit like they celebrate a players milestone game lol

Re: The never ending No AFL in the SANFL whinge thread

PostPosted: Sat Aug 05, 2017 9:17 am
by GMcG
yep, not long ago I'd host a table of 10 drunken Rooster yobbos at today's President's Luncheon....................now I can't get one taker. :(

Re: The never ending No AFL in the SANFL whinge thread

PostPosted: Sat Aug 05, 2017 10:11 am
by MW
whufc wrote:
Wedgie wrote:Reality hit me today, I've been to two games this year living in the inner western suburbs. Only 10 years ago I'd go to every game, even went to trial games interstate and never missed a game despite living 45 minutes away from Prospect. Only 3 years ago I was a part of the President's Group which cost me thousands of dollars a year. The two games I've been to this year are the Good Friday game as there was nothing else to do and the game at Noarlunga to catch up with my daughter who is a physio there.
This is what having teams in a comp play under different rules has done for me, have gone from a fanatic who went above and beyond the cause to someone who no longer cares.


Yep pretty much same for me

Would hate to think how much money I put over the bars at SANFL in the late 90's and early 2000. Didnt miss any more than a couple of games home or away from late 1999 to 2014 that would be about 300 games roughly plus finals. At bare minimum I was spending $50 a game over the bar. That's about $15000 in bar sales before food (we lunches most weeks) before tickets and before bringing mates along who wouldn't not have normally came.

Lol this made me of think of a marketing idea now the membership tickets are scanned at grounds. Why can't clubs celebrate their supporters 50, 100, 200, 500 game visit like they celebrate a players milestone game lol


I'm sure your clubs would appreciate the support

Re: The never ending No AFL in the SANFL whinge thread

PostPosted: Sat Aug 05, 2017 10:53 am
by Magellan
whufc wrote:
Wedgie wrote:Reality hit me today, I've been to two games this year living in the inner western suburbs. Only 10 years ago I'd go to every game, even went to trial games interstate and never missed a game despite living 45 minutes away from Prospect. Only 3 years ago I was a part of the President's Group which cost me thousands of dollars a year. The two games I've been to this year are the Good Friday game as there was nothing else to do and the game at Noarlunga to catch up with my daughter who is a physio there.
This is what having teams in a comp play under different rules has done for me, have gone from a fanatic who went above and beyond the cause to someone who no longer cares.


Yep pretty much same for me

Would hate to think how much money I put over the bars at SANFL in the late 90's and early 2000. Didnt miss any more than a couple of games home or away from late 1999 to 2014 that would be about 300 games roughly plus finals. At bare minimum I was spending $50 a game over the bar. That's about $15000 in bar sales before food (we lunches most weeks) before tickets and before bringing mates along who wouldn't not have normally came.

Lol this made me of think of a marketing idea now the membership tickets are scanned at grounds. Why can't clubs celebrate their supporters 50, 100, 200, 500 game visit like they celebrate a players milestone game lol

Not quite celebrating supporter attendances (interesting idea though, whufc), but I note that today Centrals are offering all who rock up a chance to win $2000 if the crowd exceeds 2,300 people. If there's less than that then $200 is on offer.

Re: The never ending No AFL in the SANFL whinge thread

PostPosted: Sat Aug 05, 2017 10:54 am
by whufc
MW wrote:
whufc wrote:
Wedgie wrote:Reality hit me today, I've been to two games this year living in the inner western suburbs. Only 10 years ago I'd go to every game, even went to trial games interstate and never missed a game despite living 45 minutes away from Prospect. Only 3 years ago I was a part of the President's Group which cost me thousands of dollars a year. The two games I've been to this year are the Good Friday game as there was nothing else to do and the game at Noarlunga to catch up with my daughter who is a physio there.
This is what having teams in a comp play under different rules has done for me, have gone from a fanatic who went above and beyond the cause to someone who no longer cares.


Yep pretty much same for me

Would hate to think how much money I put over the bars at SANFL in the late 90's and early 2000. Didnt miss any more than a couple of games home or away from late 1999 to 2014 that would be about 300 games roughly plus finals. At bare minimum I was spending $50 a game over the bar. That's about $15000 in bar sales before food (we lunches most weeks) before tickets and before bringing mates along who wouldn't not have normally came.

Lol this made me of think of a marketing idea now the membership tickets are scanned at grounds. Why can't clubs celebrate their supporters 50, 100, 200, 500 game visit like they celebrate a players milestone game lol


I'm sure your clubs would appreciate the support


Found other things to do and better ways to spend money

Re: The never ending No AFL in the SANFL whinge thread

PostPosted: Sat Aug 05, 2017 11:04 am
by Magellan
MW wrote:
whufc wrote:
Wedgie wrote:Reality hit me today, I've been to two games this year living in the inner western suburbs. Only 10 years ago I'd go to every game, even went to trial games interstate and never missed a game despite living 45 minutes away from Prospect. Only 3 years ago I was a part of the President's Group which cost me thousands of dollars a year. The two games I've been to this year are the Good Friday game as there was nothing else to do and the game at Noarlunga to catch up with my daughter who is a physio there.
This is what having teams in a comp play under different rules has done for me, have gone from a fanatic who went above and beyond the cause to someone who no longer cares.


Yep pretty much same for me

Would hate to think how much money I put over the bars at SANFL in the late 90's and early 2000. Didnt miss any more than a couple of games home or away from late 1999 to 2014 that would be about 300 games roughly plus finals. At bare minimum I was spending $50 a game over the bar. That's about $15000 in bar sales before food (we lunches most weeks) before tickets and before bringing mates along who wouldn't not have normally came.

Lol this made me of think of a marketing idea now the membership tickets are scanned at grounds. Why can't clubs celebrate their supporters 50, 100, 200, 500 game visit like they celebrate a players milestone game lol


I'm sure your clubs would appreciate the support

Whilst I can only speak for myself and my club, I'm sure I'm not the only one who would've appreciated the club at least bothering to consult and hear the concerns of its members on such a critical issue of the introduction of the AFL teams. Understandable that people will stop investing in an organisation when it becomes clear it doesn't care about what supporters think, takes its membership for granted, or doesn't value previous efforts in supporting it.

Re: The never ending No AFL in the SANFL whinge thread

PostPosted: Sat Aug 05, 2017 11:08 am
by Jim05
MW wrote:
whufc wrote:
Wedgie wrote:Reality hit me today, I've been to two games this year living in the inner western suburbs. Only 10 years ago I'd go to every game, even went to trial games interstate and never missed a game despite living 45 minutes away from Prospect. Only 3 years ago I was a part of the President's Group which cost me thousands of dollars a year. The two games I've been to this year are the Good Friday game as there was nothing else to do and the game at Noarlunga to catch up with my daughter who is a physio there.
This is what having teams in a comp play under different rules has done for me, have gone from a fanatic who went above and beyond the cause to someone who no longer cares.


Yep pretty much same for me

Would hate to think how much money I put over the bars at SANFL in the late 90's and early 2000. Didnt miss any more than a couple of games home or away from late 1999 to 2014 that would be about 300 games roughly plus finals. At bare minimum I was spending $50 a game over the bar. That's about $15000 in bar sales before food (we lunches most weeks) before tickets and before bringing mates along who wouldn't not have normally came.

Lol this made me of think of a marketing idea now the membership tickets are scanned at grounds. Why can't clubs celebrate their supporters 50, 100, 200, 500 game visit like they celebrate a players milestone game lol


I'm sure your clubs would appreciate the support

That's what happens when clubs take members for granted and treat their core clients with disdain.
The amount the Ravens pay a year wouldn't anywhere near cover the lost revenue from disenfranchised members not attending anymore

Re: The never ending No AFL in the SANFL whinge thread

PostPosted: Sat Aug 05, 2017 11:20 am
by Spargo
Some people simply don't (and never will) get it.

Re: The never ending No AFL in the SANFL whinge thread

PostPosted: Sat Aug 05, 2017 11:32 am
by Pseudo
Magellan wrote:Whilst I can only speak for myself and my club, I'm sure I'm not the only one who would've appreciated the club at least bothering to consult and hear the concerns of its members on such a critical issue of the introduction of the AFL teams. Understandable that people will stop investing in an organisation when it becomes clear it doesn't care about what supporters think, takes its membership for granted, or doesn't value previous efforts in supporting it.

^ in a nutshell. Until such time as the management of my (former) club starts running it as a means unto itself - rather than looking after its cronies and toadying to certain external parties - then the club can jam its membership up its fundament. I'll continue to go to occasional games as a casual supporter.

Re: The never ending No AFL in the SANFL whinge thread

PostPosted: Sat Aug 05, 2017 1:00 pm
by MW
Spargo wrote:Some people simply don't (and never will) get it.


Unfortunately some have also used it as an excuse to give up

Re: The never ending No AFL in the SANFL whinge thread

PostPosted: Sat Aug 05, 2017 2:37 pm
by Magellan
MW wrote:
Spargo wrote:Some people simply don't (and never will) get it.


Unfortunately some have also used it as an excuse to give up

So why persevere in a relationship where your input and efforts aren't valued? You call it 'giving up', but giving up on what exactly? Someone that has made it quite clear that it's no longer interested in what you, as a shareholder and part-owner of the club, have to say in important matters. That's pretty significant.

A sensible person wouldn't stand for such neglect in a business relationship or an intimate relationship. Pulling the pin in those cases is not giving up. The phrase 'breaking up' or 'moving on' is probably closer to the truth. And such decisions are very difficult to make.

Re: The never ending No AFL in the SANFL whinge thread

PostPosted: Sat Aug 05, 2017 3:40 pm
by mighty_tiger_79
Magellan wrote:
whufc wrote:
Wedgie wrote:Reality hit me today, I've been to two games this year living in the inner western suburbs. Only 10 years ago I'd go to every game, even went to trial games interstate and never missed a game despite living 45 minutes away from Prospect. Only 3 years ago I was a part of the President's Group which cost me thousands of dollars a year. The two games I've been to this year are the Good Friday game as there was nothing else to do and the game at Noarlunga to catch up with my daughter who is a physio there.
This is what having teams in a comp play under different rules has done for me, have gone from a fanatic who went above and beyond the cause to someone who no longer cares.


Yep pretty much same for me

Would hate to think how much money I put over the bars at SANFL in the late 90's and early 2000. Didnt miss any more than a couple of games home or away from late 1999 to 2014 that would be about 300 games roughly plus finals. At bare minimum I was spending $50 a game over the bar. That's about $15000 in bar sales before food (we lunches most weeks) before tickets and before bringing mates along who wouldn't not have normally came.

Lol this made me of think of a marketing idea now the membership tickets are scanned at grounds. Why can't clubs celebrate their supporters 50, 100, 200, 500 game visit like they celebrate a players milestone game lol

Not quite celebrating supporter attendances (interesting idea though, whufc), but I note that today Centrals are offering all who rock up a chance to win $2000 if the crowd exceeds 2,300 people. If there's less than that then $200 is on offer.


That is a different idea @whufc and I like it. Make the fans truly feel part of the club.
Not a bad incentive from the Doggies.
Good to see they are trying something.

Re: The never ending No AFL in the SANFL whinge thread

PostPosted: Sat Aug 05, 2017 3:51 pm
by Wedgie
Their $2000 is very safe.

Re: The never ending No AFL in the SANFL whinge thread

PostPosted: Sat Aug 05, 2017 4:20 pm
by bennymacca
mighty_tiger_79 wrote:That is a different idea @whufc and I like it. Make the fans truly feel part of the club.
Not a bad incentive from the Doggies.
Good to see they are trying something.


bringing up anything to do with the crows in this thread is probably poison, but they print the length of time you have been a member on your membership card. I think thats a small but significant thing and would help them with membership retention

Re: The never ending No AFL in the SANFL whinge thread

PostPosted: Sat Aug 05, 2017 4:27 pm
by mighty_tiger_79
bennymacca wrote:
mighty_tiger_79 wrote:That is a different idea @whufc and I like it. Make the fans truly feel part of the club.
Not a bad incentive from the Doggies.
Good to see they are trying something.


bringing up anything to do with the crows in this thread is probably poison, but they print the length of time you have been a member on your membership card. I think thats a small but significant thing and would help them with membership retention
Some AFL clubs put the years of membership on their scarves. Perhaps for the long term ones. Eg 10yrs etc

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Re: The never ending No AFL in the SANFL whinge thread

PostPosted: Sat Aug 05, 2017 4:29 pm
by Wedgie
It'd interest me about as much as putting the size of my dick on my membership.

Re: The never ending No AFL in the SANFL whinge thread

PostPosted: Sat Aug 05, 2017 4:38 pm
by Spargo
MW wrote:
Spargo wrote:Some people simply don't (and never will) get it.


Unfortunately some have also used it as an excuse to give up

Why would so many people give up on something they love & has been such an important part of their lives?
Calling it an excuse is insulting & so far off the mark it's not funny.