interesting

[Dirko]

...but the SANFL will have, or have the ability to sell the land / Football Park. How much would that little nest egg land the SANFL? $$$?

A one off huge sum, but is there any guarantee that wouldn't be absolved into any redevelopment of Adelaide Oval, or for future redevelopments of the Oval etc. Who has any idea on how much would be sent back to the SANFL clubs ?

Another question. Who's going to "own" Adelaide Oval ?

[smac]

The SMA will have control, Footy receiving money generated by Footy and Cricket receiving money generated by Cricket. Just as they both do now, without the costs of maintaining a ground 12 months of the year.

They will also share revenues from any event that is outside of those two sports (Rugby 7's, concerts, A League soccer etc).

[redandblack]

Thanks smac, that's correct and answers the doubts well.

[Royal City]

The SMA will have control, Footy receiving money generated by Footy and Cricket receiving money generated by Cricket. Just as they both do now, without the costs of maintaining a ground 12 months of the year.

They will also share revenues from any event that is outside of those two sports (Rugby 7's, concerts, A League soccer etc).

So they arent reducing AAMI to a 25000 stadium anymore ????? just selling it all off.

[smac]

That's up to the SANFL I suppose and would have some costs associated with it.

[JK]

I have a genuine question for those worried about the AFL taking over the 2 SA AFL licences.

What do you understand would actually happen if they did this?

What are you fearful of?

- Potentially reduced or lost dividends from the local AFL clubs (which as you have been arguing, are significant and exceptionally important to most if not all clubs)

- Markedly reduced Salary Cap which would erode the quality of the competition

As for the charging of stadium rental, yes revenue would continue in some form, but who's to say that some day down the track the AFL didn't venture into a stadium development of their own to bypass that?

I am fearful that we will adopt many/most/all of the AFL policies, like the point based tribunal system.

Fully admit I'm one of those people that doesn't always appreciate change, but whilst I have no confirmation any of the above would happen, I would be extremely apprehensive about it.

[redandblack]

I agree with those points, CP.

My feeling overall, though, is that the AFL having the licences just means the members run the Crows and Power, instead of the SANFL.

That wouldn't change the control of the SANFL over our own competition, but would change the dynamics of revenue streams, etc.

I think the SANFL would still be in a very strong position.

Having said that, I would be opposed to any change, as I think it much better that the SANFL owns the licences.

[Jars458]

The Crows should be owned and run by their members, just like all the sanfl clubs.

Get stuffed.

If they want it, hand over 4 million to the SANFL for starters.

Righto. How many more millions should my football club give to the SANFL? Tehy have been given plenty in echange for a few ATCO huts and a terrible stadium deal.

[The Sleeping Giant]

Lol. Booney surrenders quicker than a French man.

[Dirko]

The SMA will have control, Footy receiving money generated by Footy and Cricket receiving money generated by Cricket. Just as they both do now, without the costs of maintaining a ground 12 months of the year.

The revenue received from Football would far outweigh that from cricket wouldn't it?

[Booney]

Lol. Booney surrenders quicker than a French man.

Not so mate. Smart enough to realise when I'm wasting my time.

[Royal City]

Lol. Booney surrenders quicker than a French man.

Not so mate. Smart enough to realise when I'm wasting my time.

Thats what he keeps telling himself anyway.

[Booney]

...but the SANFL will have, or have the ability to sell the land / Football Park. How much would that little nest egg land the SANFL? $$$?

A one off huge sum, but is there any guarantee that wouldn't be absolved into any redevelopment of Adelaide Oval, or for future redevelopments of the Oval etc. Who has any idea on how much would be sent back to the SANFL clubs ?

Another question. Who's going to "own" Adelaide Oval ?

Therein lies the biggest problem. Footy will want to says "it's ours" and cricket the same.

At the moment SACA has 100% 12 month control of the Adelaide Oval stadium. At this point, footy starts in February and ends ( with SANFL finals ) in October. Thats the best part of 9 months of the year. In turn, cricket would have it for 3 months......yep, SACA are going to roll over and let that happen.

[Gravel]

It was reported last week that the SANFL want 7 months control of Adelaide Oval, with the SACA having the remaining 5 months.
I have also read that land at AAMI that would be surplus to requirements is worth $200m, subject to some rezoning. If sold and invested at 5% that would be $10m of interest income generated, or $1.25m per SANFL club. Add that to the rental the SANFL would receive from AFL games at AO and I see the SANFL clubs miles in front of the $480k they received as an AFL dividend in 2010?

[smithy]

The Crows should be owned and run by their members, just like all the sanfl clubs.

Get stuffed.

If they want it, hand over 4 million to the SANFL for starters.

You would think that the licence would be worth considerably more than the $4mill paid.

[Jim05]

The Crows should be owned and run by their members, just like all the sanfl clubs.

Get stuffed.

If they want it, hand over 4 million to the SANFL for starters.

You would think that the licence would be worth considerably more than the $4mill paid.

Yeah i would assume alot more. If they paid 4mill each license, they would have to be valued at $50mill+ combined

[spell_check]

Does the Crows and Power include goodwill in their books?

[StrayDog]

.....

If they want it, hand over 4 million to the SANFL for starters.

You would think that the licence would be worth considerably more than the $4mill paid.

Yeah i would assume alot more. If they paid 4mill each license, they would have to be valued at $50mill+ combined

Why so much?

[Barto]

The Crows should be owned and run by their members, just like all the sanfl clubs.

Get stuffed.

If they want it, hand over 4 million to the SANFL for starters.

Righto. How many more millions should my football club give to the SANFL? Tehy have been given plenty in echange for a few ATCO huts and a terrible stadium deal.

The Crows were the SANFL. What did you expect when the club started up? If they gave nothing back to the SANFL over the years, where do you expect the money should be spent? Propping up North Melbourne?

Come up with a sustainable plan where AFL money filters down into the development of the game at the grassroots instead of complaining that the Crows cant have money fights.

[Jars458]

More than happy for the Crows to continue to pay the SANFL a dividend in the appropriate form. My point is that the AFC memebers deserve to control the club just the same as SANFL club members do. I understand the SANFL brought the Crows into the AFL however what is required now is a more sensible management strucutre for both AFL clubs that still as you say allows for grass roots footy to benefit.

The SANFL could continue to hold the licences and the clubs pay a yearly fee/dividend for tht privilege but the boards (as voted by the members) be given free reign to run the club as they see fit. The SANFL would need to cmoe to the party by offering a fair stadium deal.